Most biased article I have ever seen on teens, juul and flavors

[Rossum]

I'm afraid the "I'm addicted" is just a claim made by teens who don't want to stop,

Why exactly should they stop? Is there any demonstrable harm like there is with smoking?

Please don't anyone start on the "nicotine is bad for the adolescent brain" stuff either. Half or more of the folks here started smoking during their adolescent years and I've never had the sense that they had any mental malfunction as a result.

 

[Opinionated]

Why exactly should they stop? Is there any demonstrable harm like there is with smoking?

Please don't anyone start on the "nicotine is bad for the adolescent brain" stuff either. Half or more of the folks here started smoking during their adolescent years and I've never had the sense that they had any mental malfunction as a result.

The concern with kids and vaping is that the pathways made during the teen years, (such as the hand to mouth habit and the habit of using nicotine for a stress reliever and at other times) become more set in stone and perhaps more difficult to overcome in adulthood as habits you pick up during adulthood...

I think we all demonstrate that concern adequately.

this is just where I've noticed comments like that coming from.

 

[Rossum]

The concern with kids and vaping is that the pathways made during the teen years, (such as the hand to mouth habit and the habit of using nicotine for a stress reliever and at other times) become more set in stone and perhaps more difficult to overcome in adulthood as habits you pick up during adulthood...

I think we all demonstrate that concern adequately.

this is just where I've noticed comments like that coming from.

Maybe. But unless there is some demonstrable harm, what exactly is the problem with these "habits"?

 

[stols001]

I do think vaping is preferable than smoking yes. He certainly shouldn't start smoking cigarettes.

But the claim of "I can't stop even using nic replacement carries little weight with me, since all he is vaping is nic. Maybe it is the hand to mouth habit, by now.

I don't believe (as a rule, and unless they were smoking before) that teens should really vape. For one, it's not legal, and for two, if they continue they may wind up with a vape habit their entire life.

I like vaping-- COMPARED to smoking. If I could go back and be a never smoker, I would have. Maybe that's true for everyone who is vaping, but I have already done some serious damage to my lungs. So, I really would prefer that teens not vape, and CERTAINLY shouldn't be swept up in the anti vaping propaganda, which it seems students are doing. "Undisclosed" teens and whatnot. I think it really reeks, personally.

I let my teen vape, but a) he was a smoker, it was harm reduction. Any teen WANTING harm reduction from smoking should get it (IMO). However, it's not super easy to determine although it's not legal and etc.

Anna

 

[Beamslider]

Depends of the state if this is accurate.

Apparently in Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, and Texas minors can smoke at home if the legal guardian approves and gives it to them.

Several other states only prohibit it in public so might be legal at home with a parent approving.

Smoking age - Wikipedia

 

[Letitia]

View attachment 745131 Awesome.

I'm amazed this graphic made it through editing. It destroys the whole premise of the propaganda.

Problem is many will only see a higher # and not actually read the text.

 

[Ionori]

I like vaping-- COMPARED to smoking. If I could go back and be a never smoker, I would have. Maybe that's true for everyone who is vaping, but I have already done some serious damage to my lungs.

I think vaping is an awesome hobby, with almost infinite possibilities to apply yourself, from installing pre-wrapped exotic coils into rebuildables and simple DIY to building your own exotic coils and developing great DIY recipes, not to mention tricks and making your own mods. I just might enjoy vaping so much that I would keep doing it even if I could magically change the past and stop being an ex-smoker.

 

[stols001]

I have a feeling that I would never have encountered the "awesome hobby aspects' of vaping unless I'd been a smoker first. I highly doubt that (at the age I was when vaping started) that I would have had ANY interest in it (but, we're talking my 30s I guess). My hobbies would have remained biking, knitting, a host of other stuff.

I agree that the hobby aspect is fun. IDK so much whether or not I would have seen it that way as an adult. Probably (most likely) not. Probably I would have remained, like the rest of the world, not that interested in vaping and possibly would have considered it a good/bad thing etc., depending on which news articles I read.

I sincerely wish I were not a vaper, even as I am enjoying it. I sincerely wish I had NEVER started smoking, and, while I am THRILLED to be a vaper who is now avoiding COPD, I still think the state of my health would have been FAR better.

I think the "I love the hobby aspect of vaping" is just fine. I still say ANY adult (or teen SMOKER who wants to convert to vaping) should have that opportunity.

But, I know myself, I do REMEMBER my life before smoking, and I never missed it (smoking). I sincerely wish that I were a never smoker, never vaper.

Because for MOST of my smoking life from the minute I found out I COULD NOT QUIT, well, I have wished to be a never smoker. While I am glad vaping is here, and I am also glad it is less harmful than smoking I still wish more teens would leave it alone. I realize they won't.

BUT I am almost 100% sure that if I were a never smoker, I would NOT have taken up vaping "Just because." Perhaps one day that will be the case, that more never smokers vape, I can only speak to my OWN experience, motivations and desires, etc.

Anna

 

[ShamrockPat]

Juul's are a great device for those adult smokers that want to quit. They mimic that ease of smoking with a strong hit of nicotine and no instructions necessary. BUT it's the last device I'd want to see in a teenager's hands.

At 59 mg/ml for each 'hit' JUUL puff, and NO option for zero nic, I'd rather see them blowing big fat obnoxious nic free clouds or 3 mg/ml.