MVS Giveaway thread !!!

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Hey late night MVS fans!!

That's a thought. I like Rum, and the Spicy Vanilla sounds nice. The Bacardi 151 is good, but like I said, I used too much, on someone's apparently bad advice. I found a nice juice Calculator online, and it helped me to know how much of each thing to mix. But I'm thinking that the Unflavored and USP I bought may not have been the Purest. I've since learned learned that P&G is about the only one to make a VG that's actually OK for Inhalation, and it has the best Taste, according to someone who I have a great respect for. Do you know Cyrus Vap - it's him. He's a Medical Doctor, with a very sensitive nose, so he can really Smell the differences, too. A really great guy.

Others like flavored Vodkas, but I might just try the Capt. Morgan's. Nice Call!!! I'd just need to keep that, or the Bacardi 151, to about 10%, at most. I've learned that 5% is good enuf for Thinning and better flow in the Wick.

I'd definitely try it out! I know 151 works, but it's going to be a harsher hit, and a bit more spicy too, so you'd always have to be adjusting flavor to overcome that bit I'd imagine. So I've just always thought that the light vanilla flavor of Capt Morgan would be easier to cover and or mix into a flavor, plus the TH wouldn't be as harsh either so you could use a little more if needed too.

Ya, I've read Cyrus's posts, he/she is very knowledgeable! What VG brand do you have?

I question the Purity of what I bought bc I get crud build-up on the Coil of my Vivi Nova. I would think that this is garbage, as there's nothing in it but Unflavored VG Nic and USP VG. If nothing else, I believe the Flavor and Taste would be better with the P&G, Protor and Gamble. I can't remeber the name of it right now, but P&G makes it... 100% VG Nic.

It could also be too much sweet, or certain flavors/extracts will do that too. And of course since you use near or at 100%VG you'll have to watch all of the above too because you juices will be thicker to begin with. Hope you can find the cause and correct it, or at least find a better way to deal with it all!

Yep and they give free samples!!

I still have part of a gallon jug!!

Show me how j, thanks!!

My daughter broke my evic ;(

Ohh no!!! So sorry to hear mogium!

How did that happen, and how bad is it damaged?

 

[mogium]

Yeah the good new s is I get to buy a cheap mech and maybe fix my evic. Bad news is I am stuck with just my vmax and 1 set of bats till then

 

[100%VG]

I'm looking for it now, Dragon. I'll post back on that when I find it. I'm looking for the exact product name.

Geezum Peach!!!... I'm so sorry!!!....I was soooooo wrong!!!

It's Dow OPTIM Glycerine

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rity-pg-vg-peg-short-version.html#post5540663 - by Rolygate

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6ybKtyHYZc929ALnEw&bvm=bv.43287494,bs.1,d.b2U - a PDF.
Looks like this in only USP.
SkyDragon... Have you heard of this? What do you use in your e-liquids? (if I may ask)

Please don't be alarmed that this product is used in the Manufacture of Other Products. A lot of things go into Other Products, and VG and PG can be used in Many Things. Rolygate would not have referenced Dow OPTIM if it was not Safe!!!

His mention of Dow OPTIM is in the 2nd to last paragraph, the last sentence in Purity of PG, VG and PEG - The Short Version. Please read the whole article. He mentions, briefly, how it is made, and recommends it for its Purity.

I believe there is also a P&G VG, but I think that Dow OPTIM is the thing to look for. I have not looked for a Source yet, but wanted to correct myself first!!!

EDIT:
Just Back Read a little... I see that you've already found the P&G.

 

[100%VG]

I'd definitely try it out! I know 151 works, but it's going to be a harsher hit, and a bit more spicy too, so you'd always have to be adjusting flavor to overcome that bit I'd imagine. So I've just always thought that the light vanilla flavor of Capt Morgan would be easier to cover and or mix into a flavor, plus the TH wouldn't be as harsh either so you could use a little more if needed too.


Ya, I've read Cyrus's posts, he/she is very knowledgeable! What VG brand do you have?


It could also be too much sweet, or certain flavors/extracts will do that too. And of course since you use near or at 100%VG you'll have to watch all of the above too because you juices will be thicker to begin with. Hope you can find the cause and correct it, or at least find a better way to deal with it all!

Hi Aurora,

I bought and tried the Bacardi 151 bc it's stronger than regular Bacardi, and is Darker. I was told that Rum is something of a Secret Ingredient in Marlboro, and I used to smoke Marlboro Light 100s, so I tried it. Just used too much is all. I really like your Capt. Morgan suggestion, for the Flavor idea. I'll keep it down to 10%, and that should be fine.

Cyrus is a Man.

I bought MFS E-Liquids - My Freedom Smokes. Wasn't going to go there, but since you asked.... It was the best I could find as a Newb, b4 I found ECF. It's a lot better than most out there, but this Gunk thing has me looking for Better, and I think the Dow OPTIM will be it for me - if I can find a good Source for it.

I actually Like the Coolness and Sweetness of 100% VG, and I only Vape at 6.0-6.5 Watts (so far), so it's cool like that. The only real side-effect of VG (for most people at least) is Dry Mouth / Dry Throat, and I do get that. That's another reason I like your Capt. Morgan idea - to Thin it a little, and for the Flavor (it really doesn't take much!!!). The Bacardi 151 is a little strong, at 75.5% alc by vol. and especially at 20% in the Mix, and yes, it would be more Harsh at the higher alc content than Capt. Morgan, so I'm going to try the good Captain...
... being Captain Quirk myself

I'm thinking that the Dow OPTIM will cure the majority of the Gunk... we'll see. May look into the P&G Samples as well... Why Not, if it's still Free!!!

Great Questions, Aurora. You had me put on my thinking cap, and find Rolygate's post. Thanks!!!

 

[priorities]

Wow you guys share some amazing info on here..............and I hope you all sleep well have sweet dreams and wake to a wonderful new day...{{{{{hugs}}}} to all ~

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Yeah the good new s is I get to buy a cheap mech and maybe fix my evic. Bad news is I am stuck with just my vmax and 1 set of bats till then

Sucks to hear, hope you can fix it! So what happened anyway, and how bad is the damage? Is it physical damage, screen cracked, ect, or internal programming ot electrical damage?

Hi Aurora,

I bought and tried the Bacardi 151 bc it's stronger than regular Bacardi, and is Darker. I was told that Rum is something of a Secret Ingredient in Marlboro, and I used to smoke Marlboro Light 100s, so I tried it. Just used too much is all. I really like your Capt. Morgan suggestion, for the Flavor idea. I'll keep it down to 10%, and that should be fine.

Cyrus is a Man.

I bought MFS E-Liquids - My Freedom Smokes. Wasn't going to go there, but since you asked.... It was the best I could find as a Newb, b4 I found ECF. It's a lot better than most out there, but this Gunk thing has me looking for Better, and I think the Dow OPTIM will be it for me - if I can find a good Source for it.

I actually Like the Coolness and Sweetness of 100% VG, and I only Vape at 6.0-6.5 Watts (so far), so it's cool like that. The only real side-effect of VG (for most people at least) is Dry Mouth / Dry Throat, and I do get that. That's another reason I like your Capt. Morgan idea - to Thin it a little, and for the Flavor (it really doesn't take much!!!). The Bacardi 151 is a little strong, at 75.5% alc by vol. and especially at 20% in the Mix, and yes, it would be more Harsh at the higher alc content than Capt. Morgan, so I'm going to try the good Captain...
... being Captain Quirk myself

I'm thinking that the Dow OPTIM will cure the majority of the Gunk... we'll see. May look into the P&G Samples as well... Why Not, if it's still Free!!!

Great Questions, Aurora. You had me put on my thinking cap, and find Rolygate's post. Thanks!!!

Maybe a mix of both 151 for the kick, and capt. for the smooth vanilla? That would probably be great!

Haha, thanks! I thought he was a dude, but you know how the net is, hard to say sometimes and I often forget when people do divulge

On the MFS, is that pre-mixed flavored, or did you mean you bought DIY stuff from them and made your own? I've not heard anything bad about their VG, but then again I'm a Wizard fan so I may have overlooked any comments I might have seen about their VG. I have read many times that there Nic is peppery or comes with a nice Nic bite to it. Almost order some myself because stock's been OUT everywhere here lately, and it was cheap so I planned to just grab a little for testing and to maybe try in some tobacco mixes, until I get get a large bottle of my regular smooth Nic for fruits and sweets.

So you think maybe it's the VG they use causing the issues for ya? I'll have to try 90-100% VG sometime, 99% of all the flavors I have are PG based though, so I'll have to always have some unless I test unflavored, but do do that I'll have to get different Nic. Actually, now that I mention that I can't try it at all until I get VG Nic first, all the Nic I have is either in 100% PG, or 50/50 already.

I normally do 50/50, or I'm OK with 60/40 or 70/30 too, but I do think I prefer more VG than PG. Haven't been at this all that long though, but in DIY I do find myself steering towards 50/50 each time, must be my subconscious

If I remember right, Capt Morgan is only 70 proof right, so only 35% alc. Maybe use 50/50 of both rums Or 75 Capt and 25 151 for the bite. Hope it does help, I know it sounds good to me but I like Capt and Vanilla so I know I'd love it. I do like 151 too, but mainly for shots, and lots of them

Hope jj tells us more about these P&G samples, I'd like to get some to try as well! If we like, do you know where we can buy it?

What brand does Essential Depot sell do you know? I should because I read about it all the time, but can't remember. Might be P&G?

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Wow you guys share some amazing info on here..............and I hope you all sleep well have sweet dreams and wake to a wonderful new day...{{{{{hugs}}}} to all ~

Hi Pri! Thanks, hope you have sweet dreams as well, enjoy your zzzz's!

 

[mogium]

Not sure the extent but the wires aredetatched

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Ohh, bummer! That sucks, I feel bad for you!!!!!!

I can solder, so if you ever want to try to get it soldered and see if that will fix it, and don't know anyone else that can do that, feel free to PM me anytime and I'll try to fix it for ya if you want!

 

[100%VG]

Aurora,

First off, everything I've read about Essential Depot comes as Warnings to stay away from it, made to people who say they've tried it. People use VG from Wal-Mart and CVS, but those In-the-Know say not to use it!!! It's a Purity thing, I think.

I purchased 100% VG in Unflavored 36mg Nic, and USP, and mixed it 50/50 at first to make 18mg 100% VG. I later tried the dilution with Everclear, and then Bacardi 151, with the Bacardi being lighter, but still pretty strong. Don't think I'd try blending the 2 alcohols, but that's me. The MFS stuff is pretty Clean, but I just had to wonder where the Gunk Build-Up was coming from, since it's only Nic and USP, almost 100% of the time. Anymore, if I want the 151 Blend, I put it in a Cartomizer or Drip Atomizer, to keep my Vivi Nova fresh. I only have one Vivi Nova, one Carto, and one Drip Atomizer, so I try to be careful with what I do with them. Still working on a collection. More interested in getting the Juice right b4 I get more toys.

I go with 100% VG out of a something Purest Theme. I have not tried any Flavors yet, but when I do, I will look for the Cleanest, Purest I can find, and try to get Organics, keeping with that Theme. I don't like the thought of PG, but have recently learned that VG is Synthetic these days as well. My original feelings were that PG was Chemical-based, and VG was Vegetable-based, but since everything is Synthesized anyway, I guess it doesn't matter as much. The major difference between VG and PG is Vapor and TH. More Vapor with VG, and more TH with PG. I don't need a lot of TH, so I have stayed with my VG to date. Plus, PG is a lot Thinner than VG (more runny). If you wanted to try 70/30 or 80/20, or even 90/10 VG/PG, then you'd definitely need to purchase VG Nic, but of course you already know that.

I had seen things said about Free P&G Samples while searching for Rolygate's Thread, so maybe it's something to try, but I have to wonder about the Purity of it. More Research necessary!!! I wish Rolygate would Pop In, like he does on occasion, to say what HE thinks about it. Are you watching, Rolygate? We'd all love to hear from you!!!

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Hmm, sounds like you've only stumbled on the bad comments then! Then ONLY bad posts I've read about Essential Depot are from people they treated badly, either directly via email, or indirectly via snide comments or disrespectful stuff like that. Aside from that, the only complaints I've ever seen about them is their high shipping prices, and inability to learn how to ship USPS despite advertising that they do ship via USPS

Wow, you're getting gunk at 50/50 + alc? That's gotta be bad VG then, or some flavoring that wasn't filtered properly, or a dark/sweet one maybe known to cause gunk? I can use 50/50 from Wiz for 2 weeks + on a cotton wick and it's still as clean as day one weeks later. So you're doing that, and then no flavoring at all? If so, then I'd put my money on the VG being gunky, even if it's good otherwise.

Ya, I know I need to get higher VG or 100%VG to try it, just hadn't thought about it until we started talking earlier. Next time I will get it like that though, just so I'll have a few mixes and would then be able to try high VG to see if I like it better than what I usually mix up.

Hopefully Rolygate sees this, or hopefully jj remembers how to get samples!

 

[100%VG]

Yeah, it's only USP VG and VG Nic, not even any alcohol, so right... what's the Gunk? I hit it pretty hard thru the day, so maybe it's normal, but when you (and others) say they can go 2 weeks like that, it really makes me wonder what's going on. If I only got better Taste, that would be worth it. I haven't been able to do the Cotton Wick yet, but I've read the whole Safe vs Dangerous thread, and have bought the Peaches and Cream Cotton Twine (Natural - not Dyed) to try, bc it hasn't been said to have anything in it by soooo many who have used it. Still waiting to try to find a Local Source for Kanthal. These guys are having trouble finding where THEY can buy it. May have to get it from eBay, or MVS if they have it.

I've been in touch with MVS about the new eVic, with the 3400 mAh Battery, in the new 3 colors, being sold in a Kit, and they say it's coming soon, so when I purchase that, I'll get Kanthal and other supplies for it too, and probably an AGA-T. I really like everything I've seen about this RBA, and really want more than one Tank. I'll gladly pay the extra $5 to MVS for the Glass Tube!!!

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

VG creates gunk in and of itself, especially when there's little or no PG there to dilute it down.

Ya, I can go 2-3 weeks on a homemade cotton wick (rounds), and the only reason I replace it then is because the sides start falling off, other than that the part in the coil is always white/glistening wet and brand new looking with nothing on it, and the coil itself is gunk free too so it looks like I just put it in there. It even stays like that with some juices where I use high flavoring % as well. I do usually vape fruits and sweet flavors though, nothing dark or heavy, but it's usually 50/50 or 60/40 here lately, all Nic and PG/VG is from Wizard

Twine may not be what you want, unless you specifically read certain ones are OK. Those usually have other materials in them, Peaches and Cream yarn is good ya, I've read that plenty, but always read to stay away from twines, of course some may be OK so if you read they are in the wick or "Different Cottons for xxx" thread then it might be OK.

I'd get on ebay and grab you some Kanthal, it's always there in many guages, and decent prices too. There's a few guys that sell SS Mesh and Kanthal packages, or silica/kanthal too if you wanted, maybe even one guy has cotton braid/kanthal too I think.

AGA-T is nice, you'll like it I'm sure! It's big and heavy though, so be ready You only need the glass for looks, or if you use caustic to plastic juices, so you could always get that later on if you plan to mainly stick to flavorless for a while.

 

[mogium]

I can as well but I won't know if there is additional damage till I borrow my friends iron

 

[100%VG]

Funny, Aurora,

You're thinking about more VG, and from what yer saying, I may need to use Less, and add some PG. But now that I think about it, I'm thinking that your luck is more due to the fact that you use Cotton, which is so much more Absorbent. I'm still stuck with the original Silica Wicks that come with the Vivi Nova. Not all Originals, of course, as I bought a bunch of Spares, but still Silica Wicks. I can only Vape down to about 1/2 tank in the Vivi Nova before I have to refill it... it gets dry and kinds burnt tasting, so I'm thinking that a move to Cotton may help a lot. I may still have to Thin some, with alc or PG, or even Distilled Water, but maybe it's not a Purity issue of the VG after all.

Twines are very highly recommended in Safe vs Dangerous, as long as you get one that's nothing but natural fibers - absolutely nothing added. You, yourself, also have to be careful to get Pure Cotton in your Rounds as well. I'm aware of the Wash and Clean needs for cotton, or any natural fiber, but just to illustrate the popularity of Twine, the Supreme E-Cig Wizard BJ43 started this thread... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/378875-just-hemp-16.html#post8576644, about Hemp Twine. People use Cotton Candle Wick, Gauze, Rounds, Batten, and several other Cotton Forms, and even Bamboo Twine (though it has an initial Bad Taste that has to be dealt with). This Peaches and Cream is tried and true, for a long time now. It was easy to find, so I bought it.

I may have to go to eBay, or something like that, for the Kanthal, but I was just hoping to get as much as possible from one supplier, or Locally (which ain't hapnen). While I do care about Price, I'm also looking for Convenience. MVS has one of the longest Warranty periods for the eVic I've seen, at 30 days on the eVic, so I'll wait a little longer to see if they also have #500 SS Mesh, and some other things I'd like. I'd love to have the Kanthal tomorrow, but I've waited this long.

I'm aware that the AGA-T is Heavy, and it's also quite Tall, but it has great reviews, and I've seen many YouTube Videos that show how easy it is to work with, so I'd like to get one. Haven't looked to see if the MVS one has Screw Posts or Silver Wrap Terminals. Would much prefer Screw Posts, I think, for Durability. I do get the Dropsies sometimes, and would hate to lose one of the tiny Nuts, so I'd just have to be careful. The Silver Wrap Terminals seem Fragile, and can Break Off... not something I'd want to deal with.

Thanks for the note about VG Gunk. Can't wait to get to Cotton. Maybe that's all I need.

 

[nathkiira]

My daughter broke my evic ;(

so sorry to hear that mogi .. =/

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Good morning everyone, coffee's on!

 

[NancyR]

I have found sweeter juices junk coils up faster than other juices, so it may not be the vg or pg but may be the flavorings used

 

[jj2]

 

[jj2]

Show me how j, thanks!!

Here is link.


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