my brain is resistant to understanding resistance and variable voltage... help a fellow vaper?

[vjdossey]

i know many have asked for help on this before but i have yet to find anything that helps me understand it simply. so i apologize in advance for asking 'the already been asked and explained' questions again.

1. what are the benefits of having a variable voltage battery?

i have seen the charts... i have read a lot of posts here in the forum. i am only about 5 weeks into vaping and i love love love it... Thursday i will have 5 weeks analog free... i like a good TH and love lots of vapor, but who doesn't right? for my personal preference i like when i can feel the vapor in my throat and lungs, much like i would when smoking analogs. (I MISS THAT PART THE MOST)
i am going to be getting my ego twist battery in a couple days... i am ordering new coil heads for my T3S and also looking to purchase a tumbler, maybe some other tank set up. i want to get coil heads with the correct resistance.

so- can someone please simply explain to me:
(dumb it down if you have to, i thought i had got an understanding of this but, im not sure now)
2. when/why i would use LR coil heads.
3. when/why i would use SR coil heads.
4. how do i know if my ego battery is regulated?
5. is there a better choice in resistance for my standard ego 900mah battery?
6. can you shed a little light on when to or not to use dual coils as well?
many thanks to anyone willing to take a little time and talk me through learning this stuff Please know YOU ARE APPRECIATED!

 

[curlygirl]

Looking forward to the replies on this...you are not alone ^^

 

[vjdossey]

thanks curly! feels good knowing i am not alone- at the same time, sorry you are in the same mind boggling boat- lol (NOTE: just realized i posted this in "clearomizers" threads- think i shoulda put it somewhere else?)

 

[redeyes24321]

1. Variable voltage allows you to dial in your vape. You want to match up the voltage with the resistance of the atty you're using. Variable voltage allows you to change the voltage which will effect vapor production, flavor, and the heat of the vapor.
2. LR attys are mainly used for mech mods that only put out the 3.7 volts the battery produces. Its also used on Variable Voltage devices when people want a warmer vape.
3. SR attys are better for cooler vapes, and work best on Variable Voltage mods set anywhere above 3.7 volts.
4. I believe all ego batteries are regulated with the exception of eGO C(U) batteries which have the option of unregulated.
5. LR attys would work best on a standard ego. SR attys on a twist.
6. Dual coils tend to have lower resistance, but produce more vaper and heat (because there are two coils and two wicks to heat). Dual coils will kill your battery a lot faster. I personally don't like dual coils.

Hope this helps... let me know if I didn't explain any of this well enough.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

i know many have asked for help on this before but i have yet to find anything that helps me understand it simply. so i apologize in advance for asking 'the already been asked and explained' questions again.

1. what are the benefits of having a variable voltage battery?

i have seen the charts... i have read a lot of posts here in the forum. i am only about 5 weeks into vaping and i love love love it... Thursday i will have 5 weeks analog free... i like a good TH and love lots of vapor, but who doesn't right? for my personal preference i like when i can feel the vapor in my throat and lungs, much like i would when smoking analogs. (I MISS THAT PART THE MOST)
i am going to be getting my ego twist battery in a couple days... i am ordering new coil heads for my T3S and also looking to purchase a tumbler, maybe some other tank set up. i want to get coil heads with the correct resistance.

so- can someone please simply explain to me:
(dumb it down if you have to, i thought i had got an understanding of this but, im not sure now)
2. when/why i would use LR coil heads.
3. when/why i would use SR coil heads.
4. how do i know if my ego battery is regulated?
5. is there a better choice in resistance for my standard ego 900mah battery?
6. can you shed a little light on when to or not to use dual coils as well?
many thanks to anyone willing to take a little time and talk me through learning this stuff Please know YOU ARE APPRECIATED!

I can try.

1. Some ejuices taste better at various levels of resistant. A juice can taste ok using a regular eGo battery(which is 3.7v standard, using a reg 3.0 cartomizer). But if you try that same juice on a vv device, and using the same cartomizer(3.0) and up the voltage to 4 then it can become a fantastic tasting ejuice.
2. LR-Low resistance. Meaning less resistance is put on the cartomizer to allow for a bigger hit.
3. SR-Standard resistance. Means means you will have a harder pull on the device to get the hit.
4. Regulated would mean standard vape consistence all the way thru the use of one battery. You need vv/vw for that.
5. It depends on how strong a hit you want to experience. ie. whether you use the SR or LR cartomizer.
6. That depends on what you like, it is a personal preference. One coil has a wire running from the atomizer to heat the ejuice. A dual cartomizer has 2 wires and therefore heats quicker utilizing a larger area of the cartomizer to heat the juice.
Hope this helps.

 

[vjdossey]

1. Variable voltage allows you to dial in your vape. You want to match up the voltage with the resistance of the atty you're using. Variable voltage allows you to change the voltage which will effect vapor production, flavor, and the heat of the vapor.
2. LR attys are mainly used for mech mods that only put out the 3.7 volts the battery produces. Its also used on Variable Voltage devices when people want a warmer vape.
3. SR attys are better for cooler vapes, and work best on Variable Voltage mods set anywhere above 3.7 volts.
4. I believe all ego batteries are regulated with the exception of eGO C(U) batteries which have the option of unregulated.
5. LR attys would work best on a standard ego. SR attys on a twist.

Hope this helps... let me know if I didn't explain any of this well enough.

redeyes: THANK YOU- it means so much that you are willing to take time with me on this! i think i understand what you said- (bear with me please)

your explanation explains why when using regulated ego- the LR coils i recently switched to for my T3S are giving me better results than the 2.4 ohm coils it came with.

when i am using the twist do you suggest i got for higher ohms on my coils? how do you 'match' ohms with voltage- say i used setting 4.2 volts- what coils work best? and is it safe/better/worse to use dual coils on the twist battery? what are the benefits and how do i know which ones to get?

 

[vjdossey]

I can try.

1. Some ejuices taste better at various levels of resistant. A juice can taste ok using a regular eGo battery(which is 3.7v standard, using a reg 3.0 cartomizer). But if you try that same juice on a vv device, and using the same cartomizer(3.0) and up the voltage to 4 then it can become a fantastic tasting ejuice.
2. LR-Low resistance. Meaning less resistance is put on the cartomizer to allow for a bigger hit.
3. SR-Standard resistance. Means means you will have a harder pull on the device to get the hit.
4. Regulated would mean standard vape consistence all the way thru the use of one battery. You need vv/vw for that.
5. It depends on how strong a hit you want to experience. ie. whether you use the SR or LR cartomizer.
6. That depends on what you like, it is a personal preference. One coil has a wire running from the atomizer to heat the ejuice. A dual cartomizer has 2 wires and therefore heats quicker utilizing a larger area of the cartomizer to heat the juice.
Hope this helps.

do you get more flavor/vapor depending on how fast you heat up the juice? is slower heating better vapor and flavor then?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

do you get more flavor/vapor depending on how fast you heat up the juice? is slower heating better vapor and flavor then?

That depends on the ejuice you use and your preference. My advice is try experiment a little with it. Usually the clearer the ejuice the hotter it can get. Darker, thicker ejuice usually gives fuller flavor at the SR using a vv. Vapor production depends on whether you use pg, vg, or a combo of the 2 in the ejuice. The vendor making the ejuice usually gives options for the pcts you want to use. eg. I usually use a 50/50 mix of pg/vg. If you prefer more taste, then use mostly pg. If you prefer more 'smoke' then use vg. By combining the 2 mixtures you usually get the best of both.

 

[redeyes24321]

redeyes: THANK YOU- it means so much that you are willing to take time with me on this! i think i understand what you said- (bear with me please)

your explanation explains why when using regulated ego- the LR coils i recently switched to for my T3S are giving me better results than the 2.4 ohm coils it came with.

when i am using the twist do you suggest i got for higher ohms on my coils? how do you 'match' ohms with voltage- say i used setting 4.2 volts- what coils work best? and is it safe/better/worse to use dual coils on the twist battery? what are the benefits and how do i know which ones to get?

You're welcome, Just trying to do my part. I was in your shoes about 8 months ago and there were plenty of people ready and willing to help.
Yes, on the twist use SR. Use an ohms chart to help you figure out the correct voltage here. The green area is what you want to shoot for. Also you will find the best voltage for you by taste and temp of vaper. 4.2 volts will work for any SR atty set at around 2.4 ohms. Benefits to dual coil is more vaper production/ more flavor but this is a trade off because your battery will die faster. Also, when you have dual coils it will be a LR atty. Really, dual coils is a matter of personal preference, but I personally don't see any advantages to dual coils and the disadvantage is shorter battery life. You will not get more flavor from speed of coil heating up, but you will get more flavor from dual coils because there is twice as much wick area being covered (and heated) by the coils.

Edit:
Just re-read your post and to be quite honest, most of this stuff is personal preference, so you'll have to experiment a little bit to figure out what works best for you. This info will help you get there, but you'll have to decide for yourself. As I said, I don't really like dual coils, but there are a lot of people who really like them, so I cant really tell you what to do. All of us have had to go through trial and error to figure out what we like.

 

[vjdossey]

You're welcome, Just trying to do my part. I was in your shoes about 8 months ago and there were plenty of people ready and willing to help.
Yes, on the twist use SR. Use an ohms chart to help you figure out the correct voltage here. The green area is what you want to shoot for. Also you will find the best voltage for you by taste and temp of vaper. 4.2 volts will work for any SR atty set at around 2.4 ohms. Benefits to dual coil is more vaper production/ more flavor but this is a trade off because your battery will die faster. Also, when you have dual coils it will be a LR atty. Really, dual coils is a matter of personal preference, but I personally don't see any advantages to dual coils and the disadvantage is shorter battery life. You will not get more flavor from speed of coil heating up, but you will get more flavor from dual coils because there is twice as much wick area being covered (and heated) by the coils.

Edit:
Just re-read your post and to be quite honest, most of this stuff is personal preference, so you'll have to experiment a little bit to figure out what works best for you. This info will help you get there, but you'll have to decide for yourself. As I said, I don't really like dual coils, but there are a lot of people who really like them, so I cant really tell you what to do. All of us have had to go through trial and error to figure out what we like.

i appreciate your help. i do understand that most of this is personal preference. i really am trying to avoid spending needlessly as most of us are. i also know there are risks involved in ruining equipment and such so i feel like if i ask and say what about this with that if it is something risky and someone knows it they will say- you could do that but it might blow up your battery - lol. know what i mean?

anyhow- i am going to take the advice given and the little experience i have with my preference and dive in and make my second biggest purchase in this journey. i know i will be making lots of purchases because DANG IT there is so much COOL stuff to go along with this new found fun as well as healthier life style!

thanks again!

 

[vjdossey]

if i find i prefer using the regular 3.7 colts i suppose buying the twist wont do any harm since i do not have to change the settings, right? it will give me something new to tinker with in the mean time i suppose! lol

 

[redeyes24321]

if i find i prefer using the regular 3.7 colts i suppose buying the twist wont do any harm since i do not have to change the settings, right? it will give me something new to tinker with in the mean time i suppose! lol

Yes! And the twist will allow you to use up those SR heads at the very least. I think you will prefer the twist once you play with it, because you will be able to use LR heads and SR head on it. And no, none of this will cause your battery to blow up! LOL

 

[RT88]

my fav set up is a 900 ego twist VV w/ a Vision V3 clearo. just 2.4 ohm and 3.6v is fine for me and adj as needed. its the lightest setup i have but lasts the shortest. i had 2 900 twists and 2 1300 spinners. 5 months later i'm down to 1 twist w/ decreasing charge and 1 spinner w/ paint peeling. the other two just broke and stopped working. so thats the price of lightweight convenience.

got a blue ZMAX and gold SID. you can check resistance but both seem to understate volts by about .3 to .5v depending on charge but maybe that why they're only $50. The SID is lighter than the ZMAX and both feel solid enough but still way bulky compared to a twist. Good news is it goes for days in rotation with others. i think i might buy another 900 twist just because i love them

 

[vjdossey]

Yes! And the twist will allow you to use up those SR heads at the very least. I think you will prefer the twist once you play with it, because you will be able to use LR heads and SR head on it. And no, none of this will cause your battery to blow up! LOL

Whew, no bombs in the making. lol

 

[vjdossey]

I am stoked... I just ordered a 1300 mah Vision Spinner from discount vapers- it is PURPLE! rubberized though so that it won't chip or scratch to easily like some others I have seen. I carry my lil set up with me everywhere- actually I still wear my lanyard all the time, lol... I want to keep it pretty as long as possible! RT88 I am not sure I am ready for anything more than a spinner/twist right now- I never imagined how much of a learning curve there would be with this - but at the same time I am glad there is so much to learn because it really has given me something fun to do- a new hobby if you will! and I am very much an advocate for vaping so if my pretty purple battery catches someones eye, it will give me room to talk to someone and maybe help move another smoker into quitting like I did! Thanks everyone for the input and help! Again, this forum and its members have come through for me!

 

[rbeckys8]

thanks for the chart..I printed it out!!

 

[ScottP]

i know many have asked for help on this before but i have yet to find anything that helps me understand it simply. so i apologize in advance for asking 'the already been asked and explained' questions again.

1. what are the benefits of having a variable voltage battery?

i have seen the charts... i have read a lot of posts here in the forum. i am only about 5 weeks into vaping and i love love love it... Thursday i will have 5 weeks analog free... i like a good TH and love lots of vapor, but who doesn't right? for my personal preference i like when i can feel the vapor in my throat and lungs, much like i would when smoking analogs. (I MISS THAT PART THE MOST)
i am going to be getting my ego twist battery in a couple days... i am ordering new coil heads for my T3S and also looking to purchase a tumbler, maybe some other tank set up. i want to get coil heads with the correct resistance.

so- can someone please simply explain to me:
(dumb it down if you have to, i thought i had got an understanding of this but, im not sure now)
2. when/why i would use LR coil heads.
3. when/why i would use SR coil heads.
4. how do i know if my ego battery is regulated?
5. is there a better choice in resistance for my standard ego 900mah battery?
6. can you shed a little light on when to or not to use dual coils as well?
many thanks to anyone willing to take a little time and talk me through learning this stuff Please know YOU ARE APPRECIATED!

The best way I have ever found to explain the electrical theory of resistance, voltage, and current is with the water hose analogy.

Think of your wire/coil like a water hose. The water itself is the current, and the pressure is the voltage.
The smaller the diameter of the wire/hose the more "resistant" it is meaning that the voltage/pressure has to go up to keep the same amount of water flowing through it.

So if you have been using a 1.8 ohm coil and move to a 2.4 ohm coil (smaller hose), what needs to happen to the pressure(voltage) to keep the same amount of current (water) flowing through it? It needs to go up. Of course if you are using a fixed voltage battery raising or lowering the resistance will change the amount of current that is flowing through it since the voltage/pressure is the same.

The difference between fixed and variable voltage is basically the difference between having a faucet with on and off only, or having one that you can adjust the flow/pressure to get the right amount of through put.

For points 2 & 3 it is really just a matter of personal preference and probably makes a bigger difference when using a fixed voltage device as this is the only way to change the amount of current(water) that is flowing.

4. All ego batteries are regulated. There might some really cheap knockoff out there that isn't, but I have not seen one.

5. Is totally personal preference. See 2 & 3 for why.

6. I don't use use dual coils.

One more thing to note: when dealing with gauges, the AWG number is a REVERSE measurement. So the larger the gauge the smaller the diameter of the wire and the higher the resistance.

Think of it like this:
G = Gauge, R = Resistance, D = Diameter of the wire, ^ = up, and v = down

G^ = R^ = Dv
Gv = Rv = D^

 

[vjdossey]

Thanks Scott- another way to look at it for sure... I would have never known the larger # meant the wire was smaller. I thought it was the other way around... Still I am a little baffled by all the technical stuff but I really think it is a little clearer with the help of you guys! THANKS SO MUCH!

 

[vjdossey]

i appreciate your help. i do understand that most of this is personal preference. i really am trying to avoid spending needlessly as most of us are. i also know there are risks involved in ruining equipment and such so i feel like if i ask and say what about this with that if it is something risky and someone knows it they will say- you could do that but it might blow up your battery - lol. know what i mean?

anyhow- i am going to take the advice given and the little experience i have with my preference and dive in and make my second biggest purchase in this journey. i know i will be making lots of purchases because DANG IT there is so much COOL stuff to go along with this new found fun as well as healthier life style!

thanks again!

I am saving the chart... I think once I have the new spinner in my hands and I am working with it the chart might help! lol if I am understanding it right, lol... I feel like I have absorbed so much info since I started vaping that my brain might need a break- yet I am so fascinated that I do not want to stop reading... lol... maybe I will switch to reviews or something different for a few days... lol