My first go at mixing...Mothers Milk Clone...Lets start with a question

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Honestly tpa's dragon fruit is what most people use as its closer to mm. I just like vz's and is purely personal preference. The first bottle you make only use 1% malted milk. The two biggest flavors that shouldn't be change is capellas sweet strawberry and vanilla custard. Have not tried the v2 custard so I don't have any advice on that one only the original custard.
 

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Capella's Vanilla Custard 7%
TPA Vanilla Swirl 1.8%
Capella's Sweet Strawberry 5%
VZ Dragonfruit .4%
TPA Orange Cream .5%
FA - Pear .2%
Sucralose 1 drop per 10ml
Malted milk - 1-2%

This is a exact clone for mothers milk I have been spreading on the net. Enjoy and pass info along.

This is basically the Reddit variant that Green Lemur started and everyone else collaborated on. I've tried this without malted milk (which may make all the difference) and it's kinda close imo, but not that close. I've also found that the Cap VC is WAY too high at 7% and sucralose destroys the flavors.

I've been experimenting quite a bit with Cap VC2 and maintain that it's pretty garbage. Just doesn't add much other than some other potentially awful chemicals (which Cap is notoriously bad about disclosing),
 
Honestly tpa's dragon fruit is what most people use as its closer to mm. I just like vz's and is purely personal preference. The first bottle you make only use 1% malted milk. The two biggest flavors that shouldn't be change is capellas sweet strawberry and vanilla custard. Have not tried the v2 custard so I don't have any advice on that one only the original custard.

So I went ahead and ordered some dragon fruit tfa and malted milk extra that's the only malted milk I could find will this work?
 

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Lol - seems like we're always on the same page. I'm vaping some VC / Butterscotch / Bavarian cream right now, testing with different cream bases. I was recently on the FA Vienna train, but think it adds a really odd chocolatey note. Chocolate isn't quite the right description, but it's the same thing that turns me off of blueberry for the most part.

I also made a version of the Cap Strawberry / TFA DF / TFA Orange Cream / TFA Pear listed above, but grabbed Cap French Vanilla V2 instead of Vanilla Custard V1. Tbh, I really don't think that fruit mix is all that close.
 
Lol - seems like we're always on the same page. I'm vaping some VC / Butterscotch / Bavarian cream right now, testing with different cream bases. I was recently on the FA Vienna train, but think it adds a really odd chocolatey note. Chocolate isn't quite the right description, but it's the same thing that turns me off of blueberry for the most part.

I also made a version of the Cap Strawberry / TFA DF / TFA Orange Cream / TFA Pear listed above, but grabbed Cap French Vanilla V2 instead of Vanilla Custard V1. Tbh, I really don't think that fruit mix is all that close.

I also tried it and feel it had some of the same notes but it really isn't that close if I had to do a blind taste test I could definetily tell the difference but then again maybe I did it wrong cause I'm using malted milk extra from tfa instead of malted milk
 
I also tried it and feel it had some of the same notes but it really isn't that close if I had to do a blind taste test I could definetily tell the difference but then again maybe I did it wrong cause I'm using malted milk extra from tfa instead of malted milk
Highly doubt malted milk would b the signifigant difference maker. It is what it is tho. Don't know bout yall but I jus tested Mm and unicorn milk an they both kina Taste off at this point. Maybe iss the nichrome an the age but I think we're on 2 somethin even better. Imo. Taste em again an gimme yall opinion.
 
Highly doubt malted milk would b the signifigant difference maker. It is what it is tho. Don't know bout yall but I jus tested Mm and unicorn milk an they both kina Taste off at this point. Maybe iss the nichrome an the age but I think we're on 2 somethin even better. Imo. Taste em again an gimme yall opinion.

It could be the nichrome but it is also completely possible that this thread could come up with are own juice recipe that is just as good if not better than mm I've never had unicorn milk but my mm tastes just as good as it was the first day I tried it lol I'm just wondering how all these people come up with these great tasting vapes I mean does it take them a really long time is there multiple people involved in the process do they have special ingredients not available to the public or are there just geniuses with super taster abilities lol
 

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I kinda agree - MM is a chameleon flavor. Sometimes I taste strawberry, often it's peppery cream, sometimes it's straight up butter (after overvaping creams - they all taste like butter to me). I actually put down MM for a couple days as I've been digging a really subtle vanilla, butterscotch base I made, and when I came back today, MM was back to being fantastic. That said, it was also a little different.

I tried Hooked Captain's Wench and Unicorn Milk this week, and wasn't overly impressed by either. Strangely, they started carrying MM, but none seem to love it. They tried my most recent version and said they liked it, but not enough to enquire much. I kinda doubt the nichrome makes much difference (it would be a little scary if it did tbh), but age could well play a part.

Everyone at my shop is stuck on Cosmic Milk & Honey, and sometimes Grim Creations 8-Ball.
 
I've been using rayon and Nichrome and it completely changed the flavor profile of my MM. I got it set up at .2ohms dual coils. And it's crazy. The MM taste like straight up spices. Like all spice cinnamon or clove. I couldn't really tell. But it was not that good. I been readin about Nichrome and heard the flavors do change and the rayon will change the flavors as well. No bueno. Ima set up some reg organic cotton an kanthal an try it again. But that ..... is crazy to me.
 
I kinda agree - MM is a chameleon flavor. Sometimes I taste strawberry, often it's peppery cream, sometimes it's straight up butter (after overvaping creams - they all taste like butter to me). I actually put down MM for a couple days as I've been digging a really subtle vanilla, butterscotch base I made, and when I came back today, MM was back to being fantastic. That said, it was also a little different.

I tried Hooked Captain's Wench and Unicorn Milk this week, and wasn't overly impressed by either. Strangely, they started carrying MM, but none seem to love it. They tried my most recent version and said they liked it, but not enough to enquire much. I kinda doubt the nichrome makes much difference (it would be a little scary if it did tbh), but age could well play a part.

Everyone at my shop is stuck on Cosmic Milk & Honey, and sometimes Grim Creations 8-Ball.

Can we get the recipe for that vanilla butterscotch base please pm me it if you don't wanna post it here lol
 
I've been using rayon and Nichrome and it completely changed the flavor profile of my MM. I got it set up at .2ohms dual coils. And it's crazy. The MM taste like straight up spices. Like all spice cinnamon or clove. I couldn't really tell. But it was not that good. I been readin about Nichrome and heard the flavors do change and the rayon will change the flavors as well. No bueno. Ima set up some reg organic cotton an kanthal an try it again. But that ..... is crazy to me.

My guess would be that you super sub ohming that's why the juice tastes different I just got my ipv in and I've been vaping at lower watts and I get great flavor like I taste all the notes it's great but vapor is minimal 1.0 ohm build 18-25 watts I get great flavor turn it up to 35-50 watts it chucks the vapor but the juice heats up to much you start loosing the more subtle notes if I were you I would order some koh gen doh I get mine from ebay they have sample sizes for like 5$ if you just wanna try it, it's way better than regular organic cotton best wick I've tried by far it's not even close to as cheap as regular organic cotton or rayon but it out performs both IMO
 

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The light butterscotch vanilla was just a tester, but somehow I really ended up liking it. I believe it was just:

Cap VC V1 - 4.5%
FA Butterscotch - 1.5%
FA Vanilla Classic - 1.5%
TFA Cotton Candy - 2%

Again, the idea was just to keep flavor low, see how they worked together, and adjust. It's subtle on it's own and keeps me coming back for more.
 
The light butterscotch vanilla was just a tester, but somehow I really ended up liking it. I believe it was just:

Cap VC V1 - 4.5%
FA Butterscotch - 1.5%
FA Vanilla Classic - 1.5%
TFA Cotton Candy - 2%

Again, the idea was just to keep flavor low, see how they worked together, and adjust. It's subtle on it's own and keeps me coming back for more.
Sounds nice Snipe. Will b mixing that up shortly. I finally cracked an bought some V1 from ECIGEXP. Will b here soon. This lil VC2 Butterscotch caramel cream mix is koo. Still tasting uh lil too much Vienna cream for my liking tho.
 

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Yeah, Vienna has a flavor I don't love. I definitely like my butterscotch mix above, but again, it was intended as a starting point, so the flavors are subtle at 12.5% total. If people want to throw in their favorite fruit(s), it should work pretty well. Just remember that VC1 takes a while to steep. VC2 doesn't seem to change nearly as much over time.
 
Yeah, Vienna has a flavor I don't love. I definitely like my butterscotch mix above, but again, it was intended as a starting point, so the flavors are subtle at 12.5% total. If people want to throw in their favorite fruit(s), it should work pretty well. Just remember that VC1 takes a while to steep. VC2 doesn't seem to change nearly as much over time.
Does the heat steep method work to quikken steep time? Or do u not do that. I forget if u brought that up b4.
 
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