My first go at mixing...Mothers Milk Clone...Lets start with a question

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Like dense flavor I guess idk how to explain it like you know when you vape a fruit vape it's kinda light and crisp it's not dense or rich or thick or whatever lol when I vape premium juices like mm and st1 they add something to make it rich thick smooth dense etc lol idk how to explain it really but if you vape just a fruit vape then try a custard you'll know what I mean I been looking at additives like vape wizard mts and things like that but I really just think they add a lot of sweetner but sweetner usually mutes my flavors and I use sucralose so I'm wondering what there using I never tried stevia but I don't think that's what it is idk I usually make high pg juices like 30/70 20/80 sometimes 50/50 so maybe that's why my flavor gets muted idk
 

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Yeah - I think you need to vape half day after day, and diligently reserve half for at least a week. My mixes are night and day - not always for the better.

Also - is EM what's muting flavor? I feel like you may have been the one who clarified for me (or someone in this thread) that Cotton Candy and Sweetner are not the same thing. I was using TFA Sweetner and it ruined every juice I put it in. Using Cotton Candy, however, just helps bring out flavor and add that thickness / boldness you mentioned.

You can also try UC Steeping. I bought the $24 amazon special, and just rubber banded down the on button, It gets to ~120 deg, so as a simple way to accelerate steeping, you can just throw it in (in glass bottles) and set it to stay on for 5 or 6 hours. Probably worthwhile if you like to vape your mixes immediately.
 
Lately I've been using cotton candy and some tfa sweetener but only a few drops tfa sweetener is Sucralose it works well but maybe that is what's muting my flavor that or the high vg and you and know what you mean about night and day a lot of my mixes taste good from the get go then after a few days steeping there just not that great anymore is tfa French vanilla a lot different from cap cause I think I ordered it by accident oh well live and learn I'm still working on that melon cream flavor I think it would be a lot easier than mm the honeydew I have taste nice but all the creams I mix it with just over power it even at a low % I think I'm gonna make a pre steeped cream base and then add my fruit flavors because fruits don't really change after being steeped Idk I have more flavorings coming in Wednesday or Thursday mostly creams so I'll see how that goes
 

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Mike,

Just my opinion, but never use TFA sweetener. It has killed every single mix I've ever added it to. Even a drop. Just dump your bottle in the toilet so you aren't tempted.

How much cream are you putting into these mixes? My standard for VC1 is like 4% - 5% - otherwise it gets really thick. I've never really found that it overpowered fruits. More often I find that other fruits overpower. I was pretty surprised with Mone's reaction to the Vienna above, though I suppose he's also at .1 ohms or w/e which will definitely change things.
 
I'm used to tfa and cap but I just realized my problem is I'm using them at 3-4% and their flavor art flavorings way more concentrated btw my mothers milk I just got in is clear and after not vaping it for a while first whiff of this stuff I smell cap sweet strawberry I also smell custard just not sure what kind and I smell vanilla also but how can it be cap custard if the juice is clear?
 
When was the last time you guys bought a bottle of mm mine just came in today from giant vapes and it tastes weird I don't taste anything besides cream and it's not even like a sweet cream it's more like a kinda bland cream with hints of almond and maybe coconut idk did she change her recipe or something I'm using it on a dripper btw but I get absolutely no strawberry at all
 

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There's a good chance that given the demand, perhaps you just got an understeeped batch. That said, last time I bought some was 4 - 6 weeks back from Skyline. I'm tellin ya, this flavor is a chameleon. Taste constantly varies.

With regards to the color, most of my juices with VCV1 are clear at first. They definitely darken and get more orange over time, but I don't think the clarity necessarily means there's no VCV1. What nic level did you get?
 
mone, did you ever try that redit recipe ? just thought I'd ask before I tried it.


Capella's Vanilla Custard 6%
TPA Vanilla Swirl 1.8%
Capella's Sweet Strawberry 6%
VZ Dragonfruit .4%
TPA Orange Cream .5%
FA - Pear .2%
Sucralose 1 drop per 10ml

Nah not yet. Ima whip it up Proly tuhnight tho. I think Snipe and Mike did tho. Pretty sure Snipe did For sure.
 

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Increase orange, decrease custard, add EM maybe? Don't use TFA Sweetener. Omit pear? Throw in a different cream - not Vienna, FA Custard, or Catalan. Perhaps sweet cream or malted milk (I haven't tried malted so not sure). Try Cap and TFA Strawberry @ 50/50?

If you feel like being a guinea pig, I'm in the middle of a move. Maybe test this:

Capella's Vanilla Custard 5%
TFA Sweet Cream 2.5%
Capella's Sweet Strawberry 3.5%
TFA Strawberry 3.5%
VZ Dragonfruit .5%
TPA Orange Cream 1.5%
FA Butterscotch 1%
TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
EM 1%

It's gonna need to steep. I haven't tried this, but I can't imagine it would be bad.
 
I've tried it it's not even remotely close to a exact clone or a close recipe for that matter mm has no dragon fruit in it and I doubt it has any pear or orange cream I think whoever came up with that recipe was either seriously high or they have some wacky taste buds my take on mother milk is cream and strawberry at first I was leaning toward cap strawberry because the smell then I started thinking it was naturally extracted strawberry flavor because I get a alchohal smell off of it idk what cream there using but I'm pretty sure it some type of custard I think people are over thinking the recipe and coming up with all these crazy 7-10 ingredient recipes when it's probably really just something simple that were just missing cause were thinking it can't be that easy
 
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