My introduction and story

[Jocksandwich]

Hello fellow vapers, my name is joe but you can call me jock or sandwich!

I have been smoking since I was 16 and I am currently 27 for 2 more months I've been seeing vaping grow for a while now and my current location just got a surge of shops so I decided to finally take a chance and try it.

I have a friend who set me up with a dripping rig albeit very simple it seems to do the trick.

Let me tell you my setup before we go any farther into this. It's topper is just. 3 post 2 coil (couldn't tell you the ohms or anything of that nature cause frankly I have no clue what anything is. ) on a epic smpl mod base. With an efest imr 18650 3.7v 2800 battery of which I have two so I always have a battery charged.

I smoked for many years and I quit a few time once for 4 years but started when I went through a bloody divorce. I and my girlfriend are a pack a day smoker I have a security job in which I watch the clients facilities and do patrols etc but I mostly sit and watch tv or whatever so I started going to two packs a day.

This is when I decided I'm going to try vapeing.

I got the rig and got some 3 and 6nic juices and I haven't looked back since I love the clouds the inhale/exhale the building and information of all of it like learning a new interesting hobby.

For those interested I will be postin a progression thread to document my journey in the first month and I will update it everyday to inform or help other newbies like myself and show how it's possible with a little effort and help to kick the disgusting habit of smoking!

Hi everyone and I look forward to using this forum for years to come.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi Jock. Welcome to the board. If you don't understand the Ohms and such, who's building your coils in the dripper?

 

[edyle]

Hello fellow vapers, my name is joe but you can call me jock or sandwich!

I have been smoking since I was 16 and I am currently 27 for 2 more months I've been seeing vaping grow for a while now and my current location just got a surge of shops so I decided to finally take a chance and try it.

I have a friend who set me up with a dripping rig albeit very simple it seems to do the trick.

Let me tell you my setup before we go any farther into this. It's topper is just. 3 post 2 coil (couldn't tell you the ohms or anything of that nature cause frankly I have no clue what anything is. ) on a epic smpl mod base. With an efest imr 18650 3.7v 2800 battery of which I have two so I always have a battery charged.

I smoked for many years and I quit a few time once for 4 years but started when I went through a bloody divorce. I and my girlfriend are a pack a day smoker I have a security job in which I watch the clients facilities and do patrols etc but I mostly sit and watch tv or whatever so I started going to two packs a day.

This is when I decided I'm going to try vapeing.

I got the rig and got some 3 and 6nic juices and I haven't looked back since I love the clouds the inhale/exhale the building and information of all of it like learning a new interesting hobby.

For those interested I will be postin a progression thread to document my journey in the first month and I will update it everyday to inform or help other newbies like myself and show how it's possible with a little effort and help to kick the disgusting habit of smoking!

Hi everyone and I look forward to using this forum for years to come.

1: Welcome and congrats on quitting the cigs.

2: "couldn't tell you the ohms or anything of that nature cause frankly I have no clue what anything is."
RED ALARM #1
It is important to understand your coil when using a mechanical mod

3: "a epic smpl mod base"
RED ALARM #2
The SMPL is one of those mods with no centerpin; potentially very dangerous if you screw on the wrong thing on top.

 

[suprtrkr]

1: Welcome and congrats on quitting the cigs.

2: "couldn't tell you the ohms or anything of that nature cause frankly I have no clue what anything is."
RED ALARM #1
It is important to understand your coil when using a mechanical mod

3: "a epic smpl mod base"
RED ALARM #2
The SMPL is one of those mods with no centerpin; potentially very dangerous if you screw on the wrong thing on top.

I was going there, but I was easing into it slowly

 

[Jocksandwich]

1: Welcome and congrats on quitting the cigs.

2: "couldn't tell you the ohms or anything of that nature cause frankly I have no clue what anything is."
RED ALARM #1
It is important to understand your coil when using a mechanical mod

3: "a epic smpl mod base"
RED ALARM #2
The SMPL is one of those mods with no centerpin; potentially very dangerous if you screw on the wrong thing on top.

Could you give me some insight on how to figure out what they are, also what would I remove that would be dangerous? The smpl mod is only a tube with a bottom button to engage the battery. If you or someone could help that would be awesome.

 

[VNeil]

Congratulations! I wish I had quit when I was 27.

Try not to blow yourself up! Listen to these guys

 

[AXIOM_1]

Welcome Joe err Jock! Glad you quit smoking in order to avoid the inevitable end of lung cancer or copd.... You will find on this forum that most of us were once in the same boat. I would love to hear your story for sure......... As I am sure you have noticed by now, most folks on this forum take safety pretty seriously which is a good thing. You definitely are starting out with a device that is a cloud maker for sure but may not be the best of choices for someone new to vaping and that is why you will probably see other folks comment on this. You won't hear it from me though as I will leave it for them There is a bunch of great people on this forum who care about the safety of newcomers. Ask all the questions you like as that's what this place is for.

 

[edyle]

Could you give me some insight on how to figure out what they are, also what would I remove that would be dangerous? The smpl mod is only a tube with a bottom button to engage the battery. If you or someone could help that would be awesome.

Best thing for a new vaper is a regulated mod with a screen that tells you your ohms and protects you from short circuits etc.

As for the SMPL mod, it depends you having a topper with a centerpin that sticks out prominently. If the centerpin does not stick out, you get an instant short circuit when you fire.

your own probably sticks out about half a millimetre.

 

[Jocksandwich]

Best thing for a new vaper is a regulated mod with a screen that tells you your ohms and protects you from short circuits etc.

As for the SMPL mod, it depends you having a topper with a centerpin that sticks out prominently. If the centerpin does not stick out, you get an instant short circuit when you fire.

your own probably sticks out about half a millimetre.

Now I know what you mean the centerpin of I'm right I adjusted to be out a little more in a bit I'm going to post more on why I did that but basically my last battery went bad in told nothing would work at all I adjusted the pin and got new batteries and it works great now.

 

[Susan~S]

Hybrid Top Caps & Battery Failure

 

[Jocksandwich]

Hybrid Top Caps & Battery Failure

Thanks I will read up on this.

 

[suprtrkr]

Could you give me some insight on how to figure out what they are, also what would I remove that would be dangerous? The smpl mod is only a tube with a bottom button to engage the battery. If you or someone could help that would be awesome.

There is a large safety aspect to the resistance of the atomizer on a mechanical mod like the SMPL. In short, the battery can only supply so many amps of current safely. Different batteries do more than others. Using a mech mod, Ohm's Law rules: battery voltage is semi-fixed by the charge state of the cell, and thus the atomizer resistance controls how many amps of current you are drawing from the battery. an atomizer with too low a resistance can force the cell to try to deliver more amps than it can safely handle. Bad things happen when this occurs. Very bad and very quickly, like venting toxic gasses or lighting on fire or even an explosion in extreme cases. That's why I asked who was building your coils in your dripper. Further, with the SMPL mod-- all faux-hybrid mods like it with no center pin-- the atomizer makes direct contact with the positive post of the battery. If the positive pin of the atomizer does not have sufficient clearance from the outer 510 threads, the battery will develop a dead short right there and you can expect the aforementioned bad things. *No* battery can survive a dead short. We are concerned for your safety. I, and many others, will be happy to talk to you about this as much as you want.

EDIT: I second the earlier post saying a regulated mod is much safer until you understand all this...

 

[Jocksandwich]

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Could you give me some insight on how to figure out what they are, also what would I remove that would be dangerous? The smpl mod is only a tube with a bottom button to engage the battery. If you or someone could help that would be awesome.

Thanks!

 

[KennedyKills]

OP PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL!! You are using a device that should only be used by an experienced vaper or someone who has done plenty of safety research, and understands ohm's law and battery safety. Please read this link word for word, and I would also recommend doing your own research and watching safety videos on youtube as to not risk having a battery vent/blow up in your hand!! The link is a crash course on safety but again I would recommend doing more research

Battery Safety and Ohm's Law - onVaping

 

[Jocksandwich]

There is a large safety aspect to the resistance of the atomizer on a mechanical mod like the SMPL. In short, the battery can only supply so many amps of current safely. Different batteries do more than others. Using a mech mod, Ohm's Law rules: battery voltage is semi-fixed by the charge state of the cell, and thus the atomizer resistance controls how many amps of current you are drawing from the battery. an atomizer with too low a resistance can force the cell to try to deliver more amps than it can safely handle. Bad things happen when this occurs. Very bad and very quickly, like venting toxic gasses or lighting on fire or even an explosion in extreme cases. That's why I asked who was building your coils in your dripper. Further, with the SMPL mod-- all faux-hybrid mods like it with no center pin-- the atomizer makes direct contact with the positive post of the battery. If the positive pin of the atomizer does not have sufficient clearance from the outer 510 threads, the battery will develop a dead short right there and you can expect the aforementioned bad things. *No* battery can survive a dead short. We are concerned for your safety. I, and many others, will be happy to talk to you about this as much as you want.

EDIT: I second the earlier post saying a regulated mod is much safer until you understand all this...

This coming Friday I'm buying a box that I can put my batteries in and a aspire mega tank assuming I can get good info on all this the vape store isn't as accommodated with giving info as I like my friend who sadly lives 9 hours away will give me beat info he can I'm going to get the same setup he has other than he uses a kangar? Tank and I'm getting aspire mega. I would love more info on coils ohms wattage etc which I'm currently finding and writing the info down in a notebook to keep my info fresh in mind. I used his setup and I think I like dripping more but a tank is more convenient in the long run.

 

[suprtrkr]

This coming Friday I'm buying a box that I can put my batteries in and a aspire mega tank assuming I can get good info on all this the vape store isn't as accommodated with giving info as I like my friend who sadly lives 9 hours away will give me beat info he can I'm going to get the same setup he has other than he uses a kangar? Tank and I'm getting aspire mega. I would love more info on coils ohms wattage etc which I'm currently finding and writing the info down in a notebook to keep my info fresh in mind. I used his setup and I think I like dripping more but a tank is more convenient in the long run.

Great idea. What kind of box? ANd if you have a box, you can get a tank and a dripper and switch off.

 

[dcfluegel]

welcome!

 

[Susan~S]

You are using a 20A CDR battery. If your battery is labeled 35A it is not the CDR. It's the pulse. A 30A CDR battery is the highest that exists today. Many "rewrappers" label their battery with the pulse to lure uninformed into buying their batteries often at inflated prices.

Regarding CDR & Amps: Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 20A battery, that would be 10A. This Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a .4 ohm build is as low as I would want to use.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, a 20A battery may only be a 10A battery.

Since you are new to mech mods and/or rebuildables I highly recommend you spend some time with @Baditude & @Mooch (two of our resident battery/safety experts) and visit their blogs. You are now 100% in control of your own safety (and others around you). Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

Mooch's blog on his bench tested batteries: 18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With

Baditude's Blog - Table of Contents: The blogs that address battery safety, Ohm's Law, CDR (continuous discharge rating/Amps) and how they all work together are detailed below:

BATTERIES

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
* Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

OHM'S LAW

Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers)
* My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
* As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
* Battery Junction**

Note: **Ships to Canada

 

[suprtrkr]

You are using a 20A CDR battery. If your battery is labeled 35A it is not the CDR. It's the pulse. A 30A CDR battery is the highest that exists today. Many "rewrappers" label their battery with the pulse to lure uninformed into buying their batteries often at inflated prices.

Regarding CDR & Amps: Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 20A battery, that would be 10A. This Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a .4 ohm build is as low as I would want to use.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, a 20A battery may only be a 10A battery.

Since you are new to mech mods and/or rebuildables I highly recommend you spend some time with @Baditude & @Mooch (two of our resident battery/safety experts) and visit their blogs. You are now 100% in control of your own safety (and others around you). Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

Mooch's blog on his bench tested batteries: 18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With

Baditude's Blog - Table of Contents: The blogs that address battery safety, Ohm's Law, CDR (continuous discharge rating/Amps) and how they all work together are detailed below:

BATTERIES

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
* Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

OHM'S LAW

Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers)
* My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
* As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
* Battery Junction**

Note: **Ships to Canada

Three Rousing Cheers!

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome Joe (Jock/Sandwich)! Congrats on getting away from the cigarettes. Took me 25 years to do.

Listen to the others - and read ALL of Susan's links. You *REALLY* want to be well-versed on Ohm's and Watt's Laws when you start using unregulated mods (and even with regulated mods - can't throw just any ol' coil on any ol' battery/device.) We just don't want you to be a statistic!

There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with using those kinds of devices, as long as you understand how and why they work. (So, don't get rid of it - just get a little more "edumacated" to use them safely.)