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  1. Sílvio Ferraz

    Sílvio Ferraz Full Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    Hi, vapers. My name is Sílvio and i´m a Portuguese vaper. I´m here to learn and to help in anything i can. I´m 45, smoker for 16 years, non smoker for 15 and last year started again. Jully 2018 decided to stop and start vapping. I´m loving it asthma symptons got worse. I allready did some research right here in this forum and it probably is due to my VG/PG ratios. I´ll try differently. Just got here and I´m allready learning. Hope you all do well and vape ON!!!
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  2. VapourFlavour

    VapourFlavour Moved On

    Oct 16, 2018
    Ontario, Canada
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  3. Susaz

    Susaz Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Is your neumonologyst someone to trust? Ask him. Mine changed my meds since my asthma is mostly allergic and that solved the problem. You could very well be allergic to PG.
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  4. Shadav

    Shadav Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2013
    Westfield, IN, USA
    keep in mind as well, it is normal for a new vaper to cough a bit (a lot), have some irritation when first vaping
    vaping is not like smoking....but more than likely yes it was probably the vg/pg ratio for new vapers I always suggest starting at 50/50 and then going from there to find out which they prefer or if they happen to have an allergy to pg (or rare to vg)
    another thing to keep in mind is the nic level, too high of a level can cause throat irritation and usually well set off a chain reaction with my asthma
    when i first started vaping i could not inhale the vape due to my asthma, vaping unlike smoking you do not need to actually inhale to get the nicotine, you can hold the vape in your mouth and then exhale and it'll be absorbed
    I'd suggest trying that for awhile, then doing light inhales to test the waters
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  5. Sílvio Ferraz

    Sílvio Ferraz Full Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    As a matter of fact, i start to think it´s the VG that is causing my asthma. I´m using a 70VG30PG ratio and just read that PG is the conductor of asthma nebulizers, so maybe i´ll try a 50/50 ratio and let´s see...
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  6. Sílvio Ferraz

    Sílvio Ferraz Full Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    I vape since Jully and had that initial deep cough at the beginning. Got better but the asthma is still afecting me. Since the beginning that 70VG30PG is my ratio on 3 mg nic. The nic percentage is low, so i think that´s not it. Have to try that 50/50 ratio indeed, Thank you.
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  7. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi and welcome,
    If you have the option, try some unflavored e liquid at your preferred nicotine level.
    You may be sensitive to a flavor component or to the sweeteners used in your current juice.
    Which battery device and topper/tank are you using?

    Best of luck

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  8. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    As @Izan said, it could be the flavorings. Some can be irritating such as cinommem or limonene, used in lemony or some other fruity juices. Glad you got off the cigarettes and hopefully get this issue worked out. Smoking an asthma is a bad combo, so staying away from tobacco, however you do it that's not irritating is the key. Good luck!
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  9. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Asthma and vaping can be tricky. Just about any allergan or "foreign" substance inhaled can trigger an attack.

    Keep in mind none of the below videos were made by doctors, but you might find some helpful information:

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  10. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    PG/VG ratios is a good start. Other considerations to look at off the top of my head:
    sub ohm vs non sub ohm (ohm used with relation to temperature)
    Type of nic, free base vs salt
    Direct Lung vs Mouth to Lung
    IF you have not read:
    Vaping and copd
    Dr. Polosa, Italian vapor and tobacco expert, reviews e-cigs in BMC Medicine | American Council on Science and Health
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  11. bacc.vap

    bacc.vap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 18, 2011
    Breathing issues could be caused by different things for different people. You just have to do trial and error to figure it out. I personally can't vape high% VG liquid for any length of time or I'll have pretty severe asthma like symptoms, and it takes a while, days to weeks, for the symptoms to go away once changing to PG dominate liquids. Good luck, I know it's terrible to have breathing problems.
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  12. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Hello and welcome. Moving to higher pg may help. Might try adding a few drops of distilled water to the 70vg juice and see if that helps.
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  13. MJCSD

    MJCSD Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 7, 2014
    Hello and welcome to ecf
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  14. Bradder

    Bradder Am I Chip or am I Dale? Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 12, 2011
    North Carolina, USA
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  15. Sílvio Ferraz

    Sílvio Ferraz Full Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    Never tried unflavoured ejuice... :). I´ll give it a try. Maybe you are right. I use severall mods and tanks. The one that is my day to day use is the Pulse 80W with the wasp nano RDA running at .37 ohms.
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  16. dom qp

    dom qp Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I have asthma too. When I go outside and there's a big change in temperature (30C in summer, -20C in winter) it makes me cough a lot. My lungs can't take it.

    With vaping I get the same feeling with VG. I vape high VG juices though... the problem I was having is the VG was too wet. I needed to vape it at a hotter temperature so that it doesn't feel moist and sticky in my lungs.
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  17. somdcomputerguy

    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Welcome to ECF, Sílvio Ferraz.
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  18. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Welcome. Not a doctor. Did have terrible cough at first, for me the culprit was PG, but it could be anything.

    I will say, using an inhaler, the amount of PG you are getting per dose is somewhat insignificant, especially when combined with the medicine, so really just kinda keep an open mind is what I am saying. I have heard some asthmatics say that high VG was not good for them.

    Lucky for me I had a vaping doctor so that helped me figure it out. The elimination method works best, I would start with ONE thing (like plain PG, or plain VG no nic even) and yeah, you will desire to know if it's flavors. Etc.

    Good luck with it I don't tend to recommend too much of ANY experimentation without the aid of ae doctor, especially if your asthma is the serious type. Etc.

    Welcome to ECF

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  19. Sílvio Ferraz

    Sílvio Ferraz Full Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    I am in that elimination process. I just don´t want to go back to cigarretes again. I just find out that fresh flavour is not good for me, like menthol or acid fruit. Thank you all for the kind words.
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  20. United States

    United States Ultra Member

    Aug 17, 2018
    I can smoke cigarettes without issue. But tobacco flavored juices cause asthsma issues.

    Berry flavors don't cause any issues but anything with lemons or other citrus causes the asthsma thing too.

    I'm not allergic to vg or pg, but I found that thicker sauces like 80% vg tend to seem to coat my lungs where thinner stuff at 60 or 70% vg are ok. 50% vg/pg cause me to cough when inhaling unless it's such a light drag I may as well not even vape.

    Yeah, it's going to be a process to figure out what causes it. Heck it may be the metal of the coil. Some folks are bothered by certain metals their coil has.
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