My thoughts on "uvapeit"

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Victor Frankenstein

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My first order with these guys was great. My second order... not so much.

I ordered 5 bottles of 36mg unflavoured juice. No problems. Order went through and shipment arrived in a few days.

The juice itself is utter crap. It won't vapourize. It's like trying to use water as ejuice.

I told them what the problem was and I offered to return the product and take an exchange. uvapeit told me today "Unfortunately we are unable to accept returned liquid for health reasons, which I am sure you can understand."

No word on it they plan to credit me my money back or not. It doesn't sound like it.

So right now I'm sitting on 5 bottles of worthless garbage.

Buyer beware!!!!!!
 

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Try cutting it with some VG. Might be able to save it somewhat.. Nothing to loose.

I've been avoiding VG because it makes me all phlegmy. All my other liquids are 100% PG (plus flavours).

The straight PG I have (no nic, no flavour) vapourizes really well. I have no complaints with what I get out of it. In fact, I have never used straight PG and I sat and puffed on it for a couple hours the other night to rule out it was the cause. I was surprised at how well it vapourized and how sweet it was.

Just to rule out a bad bottle, I opened one of the other bottles of 36mg unflavoured from the same order. I mixed 1.5ml of the 36mg with 1.5ml of the above mentioned plain PG. I got about a cartridge out of the mix before it stopped producing vapour.

The little cup under the atomizer heating coil fills with liquid that doesn't do anything. It acts just like water. The coil won't heat to orange colour and it kind of fizzles. If I blow out the liquid the coil fires right up (the atomizer is brand new today).

I've been using the very same atomizer all night with other liquid and it's working perfectly.

It's the weirdest thing.
 

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PG will break down when its exposed to light, which is why it ships in opaque bottles, and also from heat. One of the products of the decomposition is water. (chemists out there you are welcome to correct me with something other than the layman's explanation).

As we know water vaporizes at 100C which is higher than PG, I'll bet that is what is happening.

Always store your e-juice in a dark place when not in use, never in direct sunlight. The fridge is an excellent place. (this comment is not directed that this situation, just a good practice)
 

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PG will break down when its exposed to light, which is why it ships in opaque bottles, and also from heat. One of the products of the decomposition is water. (chemists out there you are welcome to correct me with something other than the layman's explanation).

As we know water vaporizes at 100C which is higher than PG, I'll bet that is what is happening.

Ah ha! This makes a lot of sense. It acts like water in the atomizer.

I didn't think Uvapeit would purposely sell a crap fluid so they may not have known the product went bad - and it went bad on their end because I had a problem with it on day one.

Hopefully they aren't going to stick me with the bill for their bad product. 5 bottles of that stuff isn't cheap.

If they do, this will definitely be a deal breaker for me and this company.

Always store your e-juice in a dark place when not in use, never in direct sunlight. The fridge is an excellent place. (this comment is not directed that this situation, just a good practice)

I don't keep my stuff in the fridge but I follow the "cold dark place" rules.

This raises an interesting point. Just how long does it take for fluid to go bad?

I'm going to start a thread on this.
 

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This raises an interesting point. Just how long does it take for fluid to go bad?

Not long...

I find if I carry a 30ml bottle around in my pocket all the time, by the time I am getting to the bottom of it (about 2 weeks) its not as fresh or as powerful as it was to start with. I attribute that to the breakdown of PG.

Good solution here is fill 5ml bottles from your 30ml bottle. Leave the 30ml in the fridge and you will always have fresh juice.
 

Victor Frankenstein

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So a quick update with uvapeit.com

They are not responding to my email and don't appear to want to do anything about the crap product they sold me.

I will never do business with this company again.They do not stand behind their products. I'm actually out a fair amount of money now. I would even go so far to say I think I've been scammed. Honest companies don't treat their customers like this.

I would advise everyone to avoid UVapeIt.com - they suck.
 

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So a quick update with uvapeit.com

They are not responding to my email and don't appear to want to do anything about the crap product they sold me.

I will never do business with this company again.They do not stand behind their products. I'm actually out a fair amount of money now. I would even go so far to say I think I've been scammed. Honest companies don't treat their customers like this.

I would advise everyone to avoid UVapeIt.com - they suck.
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So a quick update with uvapeit.com

They are not responding to my email and don't appear to want to do anything about the crap product they sold me.

I will never do business with this company again.They do not stand behind their products. I'm actually out a fair amount of money now. I would even go so far to say I think I've been scammed. Honest companies don't treat their customers like this.

First I would like to start by saying you are the first person to complain about the quality of our liquid. We have sold 153 Bottles of flavourless, from the same batch your liquid was in without any other complaints.

Second, all your emails have been replied to.

Lastly, we cannot accept returns on products. Which is clearly stated on our "Shipping & Returns" page. We cannot be expected to ship replacement bottles just because someone does not like a flavour or someone is unhappy with the amount of vapour production.

What do you expect us to do?

John.
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Victor Frankenstein

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Second, all your emails have been replied to.

I've sent you four.

One on Tue, 7/27/10, one on Wed, 7/28/10 through your website (which you replied to on the 29th), another on Thu, 7/29/10 and the last on Fri, 7/30/10.

They have all been sent to info@uvapeit.com.

We cannot be expected to ship replacement bottles just because someone does not like a flavour or someone is unhappy with the amount of vapour production.

Like I've said, there is ZERO vapour production. None. The liquid doesn't work. I'd get the same amount of vapour production with slightly off-colour water.

Like I said in my email I fully tested this fluid, what I was mixing it with, and the equipment. I even raised the question here. There is no problem with my equipment, no problem with the mixer PG.

Even when I mix 1cc of your liquid to 2cc of functioning PG, vapour production completely stops. The very same thing happens when I mix 1cc of water with 2cc of PG.

I have tested this on two out of the five bottles you sold me with the same results.

I'd be happy if there was ANY vapour production but this fluid actually stops the atomizer from fuctioning.

What do you expect us to do?

1) If a customer says there is a major problem I'd expect you to become concerned.

2) Better monitor your gmail spam filter folder. I know it is a pain to have to wade through the folder, but it is just good business. False positives with spam filtering is a fact of life and if your business requires the use of email, they you HAVE to account for this.

3) Stand behind your product. If a customer tells you there is a serious problem with the product you are selling, don't shrug it off. You have a "no return/refund policy" but if you find out you've sold a crap product it is good business to own the problem.

4) If you are another fly-by-night internet company, they customer satisfaction and retention won't matter to you. If not, figure out what the problem is. If the problem is in fact with your product then it is good business to refund the customers money. It isn't the customers fault the product doesn't work.

I bought the product from you on good faith it would work as intended. It does not. Are you telling me this is my problem? I should eat the cost?

Let's put this in another context. Let's say you bought a DVD player from Best Buy. You take it home, hook it up, and it doesn't work. You phone Best Buy and tell them the DVD player did not function. Best Buy says "Sorry. We've sold lots of these DVD players and they all work. You can't return it."

Would you feel content with that answer? You would just shrug and say "Oh, it must be my fault because all the other DVD players Best Buy sold worked fine."

You would be fine with just eating the cost of that DVD player? Because that is what you are expecting me to do.

I'm reasonable and fair, but I have my limits.
 
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