Mystery News! - Smokin' Crow Pre-Built Hemp CE5 by Mountain Vapors

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Hey guys, I finally have some news that is geared more toward a positive experience, and this is about the Smokin' Crow Pre-Built Hemp Wicked CE5 by Mountain Vapors.

As my method usually is, I took my product out of the shipping package, and I noticed that, like I tend to do myself, Mountain Vapors had the CE5 and additional head contained in a zip-lock baggy inside the bubble-wrapped package. I thought this was a funny touch, and just from that, I knew I was dealing with a product that, as described, is rebuilt in-house by the single owner/operator of Mountain Vapors, whom I talked to on the phone, and he was a very friendly, honest guy. I can tell that Mountain Vapors is a very dedicated Mom & Pop-type shop, at least from my experience so far, and I really appreciate that.

Anyway, to the product. As always, I do a few tests on the product before I load it. First off, with the hemp wicks, I've been told that hemp A. Has a slight undertone taste of burlap or reed, B. Wicks a bit less well than Silica, and C. Even if it burns, it tends to recover its taste pretty well. As you guys know, dry hits and burned hits have been an absolute curse with me, right out of the box, so what I do first with one of these heads is I get out my juices and drop a drop on the "fly-away" wicks to see what truly wicks best. I noticed right away that my prized Candy Bar by Velvet Cloud Vapors does not soak into the wick well at all (it's %100 VG), and that my thinnest juice, Captain Ron by Indigo, only wicks about so-so. It takes a little bit to truly soak in, not long, but a little longer than silica.

So I fill my tank up with the Captain Ron (a rum flavored juice) and I let my tank sit while I take a smoke break. When I come back inside, to my astonishment, the CE5 is leaking from between the plastic and bottom plate just like my iClear 30 did! I do not have a strong grip when it comes to tightening, so I was very shocked. Then, lol, I noticed that I had installed the plastic part of the tank upside down. I wouldn't think this would matter because both ends are exactly the same, but then I took the annoying labor to empty the tank, correct it, and re-fill it, and guess what - for the moment, it seems the problem is solved. However, my iClear 30 seemed resolved too, yet started leaking again 6 hours after it sat, so who knows yet.

Now, for the grand result, to the performance. I let the tank sit awhile to wick, and I kept taking the drip tip off and shining a flashlight down in there to see if the wick looked nice and wet. It did, so I go to vape at 3.3V's. To my astonishment, I get an extremely clean, fluffy, pure vape. I literally had an expression of "Wow..." on my face, and I could not believe hemp could give such an astonishing taste. The taste of the juice was quite muted, as this was a juice that has given me several taste problems and I am almost positive that it is simply too weak a juice, but the flavor was clean. If I concentrated enough, I could indeed taste a slight layer of undertone that did taste like a sweet burlap, but this was so miniscule that absolutely no one would notice unless they came in expecting a hemp wick.

After two puffs, I decide that, yes, 3.3V's and a 2.4 head with a hemp wick is giving me very weak vapor, and not enough flavor, so I bump it up to 3.5V's. (Not much.) Here's where a problem started. Instantly, the vapor tasted a lot dirtier, and not in a burlap fashion, but actually more in a mechanical, bland way. Gone was the crisp, clean flavor I was getting, and it was quite starkly replaced by a flavor that really didn't taste like rum at all, and actually did taste somewhat mechanical. I shine my light down the head and notice that my wick has turned very dark, and I start to wonder if my battery is truly heating up my wicks and coils way more than normal - it would explain the problems with every tank I've had.

Now, here's where the better news comes in. I do keep vaping on it for a few puffs to test it out, and while the clean flavor does not come back to where it was so far, the thing I can say about this hemp wick is that it refuses to make my stomach churn, it refuses to taste acidic, and it refuses to hurt my throat when it seems a heated, drier hit is happening. This wick simply tastes so much healthier than silica that it is truly astonishing. A negative though is that, surprisingly enough, I swear that, even on the first clean hit, I could feel hemp particles brushing against the back of my throat in the vapor. Anyone who's been around burlap a lot will know what I mean. It did not hurt, and it did not feel overwhelmingly scratchy, but the slight feeling as though particles were hitting the back of my throat was very mysterious and noticeable. It's a different kind of feeling than I've ever gotten in any vape.

Dialing my battery back down to 3.3V's seems to clean up the taste slightly, but there's still a dirty vape going on. It's just a very dull vape, and the flavor seems a bit thickened and run over with a slight mechanical taste. I'm slowly dripping a little VCV Candy Bar in the tank, combined with a little extra distilled water, to see if it slowly starts tasting a lot better (Candy Bar is the only juice in my stock that I know, flavor wise, truly isn't faulty at all.) I'll keep vaping on it, doing some tests, and trying to see what works.

In the meantime, if anyone has any advice concerning hemp wicks, and what I could do to improve this situation, it would be a great help, as this hemp wick tastes a lot healthier than silica, and I trust that Mountain Vapors is indeed wrapping a good coil. I'm a little concerned with the "dusty" texture that the hemp wick seems to give the vapor too. Any feedback is highly appreciated, as I'll be updating this review as a continue to figure out what I can do to improve this.

Update #1 - I called up the owner of Mountain Vapors, walked him through my steps, and explained that I was getting a dirtier vape despite an initially very clean hit. I asked various questions such as "Maybe my juice is still too thick?" or "Maybe something's wrong with my battery." but he was very honest and upfront, stating, "Nah, what it sounds like to me is that I simply wrapped the coil too tightly. That's exactly what happens when these mistakes happen, and I'll be happy to send you out a new one. We do make these by hand, so these things do tend to happen a lot, so I'll get you a new head to try out on Monday." Great, great service, and a really honest guy. I couldn't be happier knowing that this guy knows the issues up front, and is willing to help me.

In the meantime, I'll be testing the 2nd head I already have!
 
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Update #2 - I tried the 2nd head with a different juice, one that I just don't seem to prefer the taste at all, but one that is even marginally thinner than the rum juice. So far, with keeping my device at 3.3V's, with taking a minute between each puff, and covering the holes with my fingers to perform a primer puff, the 2nd head seems to be giving me an "ok" flavor combined with mediocre vapor production. So far, it has only tasted dry once, and seemed to recover from that taste.

Personally, though, I could get a regular CE4/CE5 to sometimes work in this same conservative-technique fashion, with the same "downer but ok" taste, so I'm not sure the hemp wick is performing all that better than the "best" results I've gotten out of silica wicks (which haven't been very good.) Vapor-wise, though, I'll admit that dual-coil vapor is truly my preference, I do enjoy a lot of vapor on the tongue, but I do wish someone could make a dual-coil out of hemp, as the taste doesn't really seem to give any hempy notes to me, and the dry hits seem to recover much, much better. Even at it's worst, the hemp is so much more tolerable than silica.

I was really hoping that a hemp wick would be my "end all", but with these particular heads, I'm not sure it is. The thing about Mountain Vapor's heads are that they are only wrapped 3 times, which doesn't make for very much vapor, and the owner has already said that the coils have a tendency to be wrapped too tighty - I think that a much looser wrapped coil could possibly allow for better wicking. There is also the white guard (which is probably made silica) inside these heads, and inspecting the heads I got, the coils do touch the guard like in my Aspire heads, and this may be giving a drier, wickier taste as well if this material singes. There is indeed already black spots on it.

Overall, with the 2nd head, I would say that if you are desperate to vape, and nothing has worked for you, and you're willing to put up with very a very conservative vaping style in order to allow for wicking, then the hemp wicked heads by Mountain Vapor and Smokin' Crow could be a very viable solution. For me, so far, there is so much that is "lacking", and the coils seem to lead to drier hits so often or at any higher voltage than 3.3V's, that I'm not sure this product is what really is going to get me vaping again. In terms of pleasure and vapability, it really doesn't seem to beat what a cigarette can offer me, other than a cleaner taste.

Mountain Vapors will be sending me a 3rd head soon, so who knows, maybe this head could end up wicking a lot better, and I hope to try it with more of a tobacco juice to see if the hemp really does well with a strong, non-sweet flavor. If I can get it in %100 PG, I'll also try and see if that really helps with the wicking ability; so far, I can say that the hemp in these particular heads seem to not wick very well at all with any juice that is thicker than what one would think of as %100 PG. It has to be very watery, according to my tests.

Overall, if you want to experience a hemp wick, and you have a little extra cash, or you have a device that may already fit the Smokin Crow heads, this device could be a good introduction to what to expect from hemp. It may help you gain an idea of the wicking style, the taste, and just how far hemp can go until it tastes bad.
 
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Update #3 - Alright, so I have some surprising news that really contradicts what I've been writing!

Just as a test, I put some of VCV's 100% VG juice in the Smokin' Crow, this being the first time I tried it using the full on assembly and actually vaping it in the Smokin' Crow, and the absolute oddest thing is - this juice is wicking a billion times better than the PG juices!

It's the strangest thing! But VCV's juices are giving me a tremendously cleaner vape from these heads (even the first head that had already gotten a permenant dry taste to it before I cleaned it) and a darn good amount of vapor. I have no clue if the VG juice simply "sticks" on the hemp wicks better and doesn't evaporate so quickly upon a hit (which could lead to dry hits with PG possibly?), but I'm simply not tasting much dryness at all with the VG.

There's still a tinge of dryness, and there's not much flavor at all, but the vapor amount and cleanliness to the taste is the best I'm getting out of the Smokin' Crow so far. With this in mind, I'm tempted to track down a 50/50 Juice (Mountain Vapors specifically sells that ratio and uses it with the Smokin Crow) so that the PG really delivers the flavor, but the VG really keeps the wick nice and moist on the hits. This device really is a mystery! I'm encountering some really weird stuff with it!

VCV's juices seemed to work the best in the Aspire too, so I also really think that, even if very thick, that VCV has really, really clean burning juices that keep the wicks nice and moist. Their juices are very clear, after all. Maybe there's something to this whole organic combination - hemp, organic VG - it's the cleanest vape I've gotten so far, just, very little flavor. That's my next challenge!
 
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As my method usually is, I took my product out of the shipping package, and I noticed that,..........
it was BRAND NEW - and was I ever amazed! I anticipated finding a used one, gunky, smelly, juice coated with burnt coil in place.

I was soooooooooooooooooooo disappointed......... so VERY disappointed!

Senile Old Man Don............. I take my stuff out its package too!
 
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