N00b question about coils and ohms and vv v3

[nomemory]

Hello,

I purchased a kanger t3d on ebay and this vendor also sold coils so I thought why not they were a good price and bought some coils as well. Well I just got excited and didn't quite read the auction that carefully and I wound up buying 2 ohm coils. I believe the ones in my t3s are 1.5 and I believe the one that came with the t3d is a 1.5. My question is, is a 2 ohm coil ok to use with an ego c-twist and what differences do the ohms make? I searched the forums but the posts that I read get very lengthy and technical and seem to deal with mods/mechs/etc and right now, a lot of that goes right over my head. However my next question is, I'm looking to get either an mvp 2 or innokin vv v3 and was curious as to what kind of battery life can I expect out of the v3? Is it one I can just charge once a day with moderate vaping? Oh and Can I use my t3s tanks with the mvp 2 and vv v3 without an adapter or will I have to purchase one? Thanks for taking the time to read.

 

[novamatt]

Yeah, they're fine. There's 2 differences - you'll need to turn your voltage up a touch to get the same vape out of the 2 ohms that you're getting out of the 1.5s, and you'll get a little longer life out of your battery.

I haven't used the MVP or the VV V3, so I can't give you much there. I know that the MVP is probably the most highly recommended starter VW device on the boards here.

 

[Baditude]

You can use the above chart to see the relationship between resistance (ohms), voltage and wattage. Ohms will be on the left column and represents the coil resistance in the tank. Voltage is across the top column. They work together in a logrthymic fashion. Match them together within the blocks of colors; stay in the green zone and you're good to go.


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The iTaste VV3 is the little brother of the iTaste MVP. The VV3 has a 800 mAh capacity (approximately 8 hours use) while the MVP has a 2600 mAh capacity (approximately 26 hours of use). How this works out in real life depends upon how heavily they are used. Some people say they get all day use with the VV3. Some people say they get 2 - 3 days use out of the MVP.

100 mAh = 1 hour battery time

Both can be used as a pass-thru. This means if you have access to a USB power source you can use the charging cord to power the battery while it charges. In effect, you can vape it while it is connected to the USB cord and save its battery life for later.

Both devices have built-in ohm reader and voltage meter, adjustable variable voltage & wattage. Both accept eGo and 510 threaded juice attachments.

 

[kiwivap]

Hello,

I purchased a kanger t3d on ebay and this vendor also sold coils so I thought why not they were a good price and bought some coils as well. Well I just got excited and didn't quite read the auction that carefully and I wound up buying 2 ohm coils. I believe the ones in my t3s are 1.5 and I believe the one that came with the t3d is a 1.5. My question is, is a 2 ohm coil ok to use with an ego c-twist and what differences do the ohms make? I searched the forums but the posts that I read get very lengthy and technical and seem to deal with mods/mechs/etc and right now, a lot of that goes right over my head. However my next question is, I'm looking to get either an mvp 2 or innokin vv v3 and was curious as to what kind of battery life can I expect out of the v3? Is it one I can just charge once a day with moderate vaping? Oh and Can I use my t3s tanks with the mvp 2 and vv v3 without an adapter or will I have to purchase one? Thanks for taking the time to read.

2 ohm coils are fine with the ego twist. if you use variable voltage then you may want to look at charts.
If you get a device with variable wattage you can toss the chart - you won't need it. You just put the iTaste vv3 or MVP2 into watts mode. Put on you attachment - start on low watts and work up. Why don't you need to consult a chart? - because when you use variable watts your device will read the ohms of your attachment and automatically adjust the volts to give the watts you have set. It's meant to make things simple to use - and it does. Charts were used when there was only vv - and are still useful for that but it can get finnicky and restrictive going by a chart when you have an easier way of vaping. With variable wattage you really can just set the watts you like - just don't start off at a high watt setting.

On your question about the Kanger T3s - I think you may need a ego-510 adapter. I don't think they have changed the construction since I last saw them.

 

[nomemory]

Hey thank you all so much for the info. I have learned so much from this and everybody is always so helpful.

 

[Rapture]

It's always good to have a forum around to read and ask questions. Pretty soon you'll be building box mods capable of 120 watts.


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[xXxLEONIDASxXx]

I started with egos and quickly got a vv ver3 and soon after an mvp...save yourself some time and money and just go for the mvp. No adapters needed.

 

[Hijack]

I think you have got the best advice already in the 1st 3 posted replies.

 

[Mikex123]

I agree with Hijack

 

[NickWhit1992]

As far as v3 battery life, when I got mine I was using a 2.2 ohm coil at 8w, and it lasted all day with moderate use and about 5 second mouth to lung inhales, and the battery indicator would still be green. Now I'm using a 0.8 at 11w, 10 second direct inhales, moderate to heavy use, and it lasted about 5 hours before dying. However, I think my v3 might be "unique", because supposedly the lowest it can handle is 1.2 ohms, and 0.8 shouldn't even work on it.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice

 

[DavidOck]

The VV3 and MVP both have both threads, 510 and ego. No adapter needed for your T3S.

 

[jimkipila]

Hello,

I purchased a kanger t3d on ebay and this vendor also sold coils so I thought why not they were a good price and bought some coils as well. Well I just got excited and didn't quite read the auction that carefully and I wound up buying 2 ohm coils. I believe the ones in my t3s are 1.5 and I believe the one that came with the t3d is a 1.5. My question is, is a 2 ohm coil ok to use with an ego c-twist and what differences do the ohms make? I searched the forums but the posts that I read get very lengthy and technical and seem to deal with mods/mechs/etc and right now, a lot of that goes right over my head. However my next question is, I'm looking to get either an mvp 2 or innokin vv v3 and was curious as to what kind of battery life can I expect out of the v3? Is it one I can just charge once a day with moderate vaping? Oh and Can I use my t3s tanks with the mvp 2 and vv v3 without an adapter or will I have to purchase one? Thanks for taking the time to read.

Yea you're fine. You can use all of those together/with each other.


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[Fir3b1rd]

Badditude rocks! H3 posted the chart and a bit about the technical side so I'll stick to your upgrade part- I've never had a v3 but from what 9 understand its a more compact version of the MVP2 just with a smaller battery.
I did have an mvp2 and it is an awesome piece. Great vape, consistent 2600 mah batter7 should past you all day with no worries - used to get 3 days out of mine before it would need a charge not to mention it can double as a back up batt f0r your smart phone. Best part is for the price you're getting an exponentially better unit than the ego style IMHO. You won't have voltage drop she's durable as can be, can use pretty much any tank you want.
For the voltage question; I know you said you don't understand the tech side and I'm an electrical engineer so I'll put it as simple as I can keep it without repeating baditude. If you think of electricity like water in a hose. The water is the current the voltage is the pressure of the water I'm the hose and the resistance!(coil in this case) would be anything that inhibits the flow of the water-like pinching the hose. Since the water wants to run and keep going the higher the resistance the higher the pressure.
The ohms law equation is V=I(R)- not important right now.
My general rule of thumb for the PVs is whatever coil resistance I have I add 2 to it and adjust from there till I'm a happy vapor.
So for 1.5 I would 1.5+2=3.5
I wouldn't start a 3.5 v and love from there usually up or down very slightly.
Obviously for 2 ohm I would start at 4.

For noobs I would tell you to set your VW at 8.5w or 9w and be done but I'm a nerd and like to tinker. Of you use wattage you never have to adjust voltage the wattage and resistance will determine voltage. W= I (v). MVP runs off the last one set. Since one variable effects the other you can't have them run both at the same time.
Sorry this was such a long post but I hope it simplified some of the nerd side of vaping.

 

[JeremyR]

As far as v3 battery life, when I got mine I was using a 2.2 ohm coil at 8w, and it lasted all day with moderate use and about 5 second mouth to lung inhales, and the battery indicator would still be green. Now I'm using a 0.8 at 11w, 10 second direct inhales, moderate to heavy use, and it lasted about 5 hours before dying. However, I think my v3 might be "unique", because supposedly the lowest it can handle is 1.2 ohms, and 0.8 shouldn't even work on it.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice

Just so you know... Vv3 has a 3 amp limit your only truly getting 7.5 watts to the coil. Hence the long 10 second draw and short battery life. It is impossible for it to put 11w to that coil. Probably better off with a 2- 2.2 ohm at a true 11w, same vapor in 5 seconds and your battery would last much longer.

Where did you get the .8 ohm reading?

 

[Chelonian]

Older MVP's sometimes put out less power from the battery.

They can then fire lower resistance coils.

Just like the step down availability on the provari.

.8 at 3.1 is how I vape my russian/provari in at work mode.

 

[NickWhit1992]

Just so you know... Vv3 has a 3 amp limit your only truly getting 7.5 watts to the coil. Hence the long 10 second draw and short battery life. It is impossible for it to put 11w to that coil. Probably better off with a 2- 2.2 ohm at a true 11w, same vapor in 5 seconds and your battery would last much longer.

Where did you get the .8 ohm reading?

This is from another thread I was in, posted by @kiwivap :
[QUOTE) You are using dual coils. Dual coils are usually parallel and a 1 ohm dual coil is made up of two 2 ohm coils. Although you are vaping at 11 watts, you are really pushing that through two 2 ohm coils - so 5.5 watts per coil. Your iTaste is sending current through 2 x 2 ohm coils. In the example given for a single coil at 1 ohm using 3.7 volts as a guide, it was noted that the amps required (3.7) were beyond the limits of the iTaste battery. With a 1 ohm dual coil the current is divided between each coil.

So you have two 2 ohm coils and your iTaste is set at 11 watts. The watts are split between each coil - 5.5 watts per coil. The amps required for each coil are 1.658. Double that for total amps - 3.316 amps. This is within the maximum current output of 3.5 amps for the Itaste vv3. That's why you are able to run a 1 ohm dual coil on it - although you are pushing near the amp limit and it won't be the best for the battery.

The same calculation for a 0.8 dual coil puts you at 3.708 amps total - you're right, that shouldn't be possible with your iTaste. My question here is how accurate your ohms measurement is. Ohm meters can have margins of error, so that your overall 0.8 may not be an accurate resistance measurement. As David mentioned, there may also be some variation with your device calibration. [/QUOTE]

I got 0.8 with my multimeter, and the ohm reading on my iTaste says the same thing. The ten second drags are because I switched to direct lung inhalation, which means I can pull longer than I could when I did mouth to lung. According to kiwi, I shouldn't be able to run a 0.8, even if it is dual, but from what I've heard from my B&M is that they work at 0.7 even. And the iTaste v3 is what they normally use to show off at the shop, unless there's more advanced users in, then they switch to mechs. So I'm not sure what the deal with mine is, all I know is it puts out about double the vapor of a stock PT2 coil and I love the quality of the vapor.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Older MVP's sometimes put out less power from the battery.

They can then fire lower resistance coils.

Just like the step down availability on the provari.

.8 at 3.1 is how I vape my russian/provari in at work mode.

I try to stay around .9-1.1 ohm dual coil in my Kayfun/provari. Hits like a beast and taste awesome.

 

[epat6000]

My VV V.3 will last 5 hours tops. The passthrough feature is cool and they are pretty durable. Honestly, for the money I'd go with a VAMO, you can pick one up mad cheap, interchange batteries, and get higher wattage. They are not much pricier either.

 

[JeremyR]

Hey nick... Yeah I see now that it has a 3.5 amp limit.. I thought it was 3, and confirmed on one site, maybe that was the previous version. After looking again I found the 3.5. At any rate it should be 9.5 watts then. That innokin sounds pretty nice if it steps down to 2.8 to fire that coil. The best build is the build that works for you; that's all that matters.

 

[NickWhit1992]

Hey nick... Yeah I see now that it has a 3.5 amp limit.. I thought it was 3, and confirmed on one site, maybe that was the previous version. After looking again I found the 3.5. At any rate it should be 9.5 watts then. That innokin sounds pretty nice if it steps down to 2.8 to fire that coil. The best build is the build that works for you; that's all that matters.

Well, the 0.8 is my favorite coil right now, but I get the feeling it would be better with more power. I've already put in my order for a Seven-30 from VaporTekUSA (99.85 with Priority shipping), can't wait to try it out on that. My mini PT2 will look a little ridiculous on that one though lol. I may try pulling out the coil and putting it in a Fogger v4, or possibly an EHPro Kayfun. Probably the Fogger tho, since it comes in a 28.5 variant while the EHPro Kayfun doesn't.

Current vape:
Innokin iTaste VV v3
PT2m w/ 0.8 ohm 32g 5 wrap parallel micro coil at 11w
Local juice