Need help/advice 18650 & 21700 & charger

[chellie]

Hello --Ive been gone for a few years --- life, illnesses + deaths in family.

My nitecore charger blew up and started a fire ---I am truly not sure what caused it --I also had a non branded USB phone charging cord plugged in and suspect it was that. And my Dell Laptop charger got fried. Scary! Huge flames. I got so scared that I was having a hard time getting the fire extinguisher out of its holder.Any way I got it out quickly. Just for a laugh I was leading a virtual meeting with 20 people when I screamed and cursed and ran off to put the fire out. , I threw out (discarded safely) my entire present stock of batteries, of course the blown nitecore charger and another nitecore 4 bay charger I had because when I plugged that one in it was too warm for my liking.. I know it could be many causes of the fire, however, I am done with nitecore.

I went on 18650 batteries and I guess i never noticed it

These batteries have warning against vaping and I had purchased 2 of each and now regret it. Does anyone still use these? I know the word climate is everybody is paramoid

Molicel 21700 P42A 4200mAh 45A Battery​

Molicel P26A 18650 2600mAh 35A Battery​

I have been using the above for years, regularlly replacing, and checking and rewrapping as needed and now there are all these warnings that they are not for vaping.

Can someone give me exact specs of 21700's and 18650's by Samsung that I can purchase or if you have another recommendation. I have several mods -- for the 21700 I use 2 battery mods, mainly GEEKVAPE L200 Classic. For 18650's I have again a variety of mods some 1 battery most 2 batteries. I vape freqently and daily --subohm usually .2 to .5 at 35 watts sometimes up to 45

Charger

I was going to purchase XTAR MC6C 6 Bay Smart LCD Li-ion Battery Charger because honestly it looks easy. They have another one that is above my knowledge and seemed too complicated. I am open to suggestions -- prefer a 4 to 6 day that is intelligent and knows what i put on the charger without me having to set it. From what I hear you have to purchase your own power cord -- can someone give me a link to a quality brand if needed.

I also was going to purchase XTAR FC2 2A USB LED Battery Charger just in case I needed something on the go.

I have not smoked in 1 don't know maybe 17 years and bought a few packs to hold me over until I get this in order so specific recommendations greatly appreciated.

Thank you much

 

[englishmick]

Molicels are highly rated batteries. That's what I use. @Mooch here on ECF has a list of batteries on his blog he has tested himself. All different sizes and power characteristics. He gives all the details you are looking for. Molis were his top pick last time I looked.

The warnings about using batteries for vaping are written by company lawyers to protect themselves from lawsuits if a vape catches fire or something. Most batteries carry that warning now, doesn't mean anything.

There are a lot of fake batteries around though. There are reliable sellers out there who verify their batteries before they sell them. Buy them from Temu or ebay and you have no idea what you are getting. Where do you shop for batteries?

I recently got a new charger. It's a Vapcell S4. It came with a power cord. Lots of features, diagnostics and so forth. Automatically decides how to charge what you put in it, unless you want to do that yourself. It never got uncomfortably warm on me. I used XTAR for years but had problems with screen fading. There are plenty of good chargers around these days.

Other than that, all I ever use is single batt 18650 mods so I don't know about anything else.

Noticed you joined ECF a month after I did. Welcome back.

 

[Tor R]

Welcome back.

As long as Mooch doesn't write anything about the new labeling that Molicel and others have started, they are as safe as they have always been.
Always buy batteries from a reputable supplier.
There are quite a few who have switched to other brands because of the labeling.

 

[chellie]

Thank you. Yes, that is why I have been buying molicels because of Moochs list. OK, I know that eveyrone is paranoud legally so I will stick with them. Thanks for the suggestions on chargers going to check out the charger you mentioned. Thanks!

 

[chellie]

I did purchase a few new molicels. I will look at the list and maybe try Samsung. Thank you.

 

[Mooch]

Hello all,
No cell with that warning has changed in any way.

That warning is solely for legal liability reasons as no 18650 or 21700 is ever supposed to be used outside of a fully protected battery pack.

 

[Axxe]

Just my 2 cents in case it helps (if it doesn't, just ignore): I have many Molicels and am very happy with them (and their longevity). As chargers go, (just from my personal experience) I avoid Xtar. I had two VC4, one MC4, one MC2 and one MC1 who all died rather sooner than later (in case of the VC4s that's an "extremely sooner"...), and all of them did fail with the very same problem. Switched to another manufacturer and my two chargers from them are still like brandnew, despite being 5 and 3 years old and regularly used.

 

[chellie]

Thanks very much all. So I will keep purchasing the Molicels and maybe check out Samsung. I had ordered the Xtar charger because they were out of VapeCell and I found that one at another supplier and ordered it. Ironic thing in all the years vaping had NEVER charged batteries in a mod so I have been waiting for my charger --rec'd bateries -- and it finally dawned on me that at least for a day or 2 I can charge them in the GeekVape Classic L200 so I did and am now happily vaping away. Thanks again, everyone!