so I've been using V4L's cool carts since I made the switch to ecigs about 2 weeks ago and they're just horrible. I fill them up 20 drops and it tastes like burnt plastic. I don't get any juice down the hole or anything and it wastes my juice, just horrible quality...and only 3/5 of them usually work. so I need help finding new cartomizers for my standard V4L k808 batteries. any help or am I just doing something wrong?
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What PG/VG juice are you using? I won't use any thicker than 20% VG in cartos though 30% will work. I also don't use dark, cloudy or opaque juices (likely to drop flavoring sediment and clog carto so it degrades quickly)
I make the carto take 18 drops, wait 20 seconds or so, then add however many more it will take (usually 4-6)
THEN, after cleaning it up you have to settle the carto. With my thin juice, I lay the carto on different sides and both ends over about 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp. Then I vape it and keep it damp.
If anything, the cartos I use on V4L need a bit more skill than Coolcarts. I use the V4L WOW carts (hotter) and the Bloogplanet cartos (cooler at the lips, horizontal coil)
What is your PG/VG and how did you settle the carto after filling?
I make the carto take 18 drops, wait 20 seconds or so, then add however many more it will take (usually 4-6)
THEN, after cleaning it up you have to settle the carto. With my thin juice, I lay the carto on different sides and both ends over about 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp. Then I vape it and keep it damp.
If anything, the cartos I use on V4L need a bit more skill than Coolcarts. I use the V4L WOW carts (hotter) and the Bloogplanet cartos (cooler at the lips, horizontal coil)
What is your PG/VG and how did you settle the carto after filling?
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Try here...Regular Cartomizer's have to look through and find the ones that you need. They sell kr808's but the link takes you to all of the ones that they sell.
so i was either filling them not enough or too much. i'm pretty new to dripping so i'm just learning from my mistakes as i go! was wondering why everyone else didn't have a problem with cool carts and i'm the only one. oh well i'll continue purchasing from vapor4life, awesome products and customer service. thanks for trying to help you guys 
nice to know there's people to help me when i'm having trouble in the future!
nice to know there's people to help me when i'm having trouble in the future!
I had no problem at all with them. Cartomizers work best with thin clear juices. I use 80PG/20Vg juices and V4L WOW juices. I also avoid all dark, cloudy or opaque juices becuaset hose usually drop carto-clogging flavoring sediment.
IMO your problem is either you are using too-think juices or you did not settle the carto. You cannot just put juice into a dry carto and then start vaping. And you need to keep cartos damp. This is how I fill, cleanup, settle, keep damp.
The KR8 cartos I prefer are hotter than Coolcarts and easier to singe so if you can't get Coolcarts to work then I think you need to work on filling and settling with suitable juice. I prefer the hotter V4L WOW cartos and the Bloogplanet cartos.
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How I fill V4L/Volt/Bloog KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos
With the carto off the battery... Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Fill
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole (or use the carto condom spike to block the hole),tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml). You may need to wait a bit for the first few to soak in, then continue. After getting the 18 in, wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Cleanup
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that) While the carto is still open end down, touch a soft bunch of tissue to the top of the stuffing to get the loose juice - this will help prevent leaks.
Settle (first fill only)
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides and on the ends for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.
While vaping
While vaping - any time the vapor seems light, dry, or tastes the tiniest bit off or loses flavor, or if the carto is getting abnormally warm, I add liquid. I also occasionally look at the stuffing (especially before putting a fresh battery on or before going out) and if the top of the stuffing looks white, I add some juice. No settle needed when just keeping the carto damp. And if you do not keep it damp or if you use juice that is too thick (too much VG) you will singe the carto and that adds a bitter taste.
I use a simple plastic or delrin drip tip in place of the end cap so it is easy for me to remove that to look at the stuffing or add juice. I use thin clear juices that leave the stuffing white.
IMO your problem is either you are using too-think juices or you did not settle the carto. You cannot just put juice into a dry carto and then start vaping. And you need to keep cartos damp. This is how I fill, cleanup, settle, keep damp.
The KR8 cartos I prefer are hotter than Coolcarts and easier to singe so if you can't get Coolcarts to work then I think you need to work on filling and settling with suitable juice. I prefer the hotter V4L WOW cartos and the Bloogplanet cartos.
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How I fill V4L/Volt/Bloog KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos
With the carto off the battery... Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Fill
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole (or use the carto condom spike to block the hole),tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml). You may need to wait a bit for the first few to soak in, then continue. After getting the 18 in, wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Cleanup
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that) While the carto is still open end down, touch a soft bunch of tissue to the top of the stuffing to get the loose juice - this will help prevent leaks.
Settle (first fill only)
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides and on the ends for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.
While vaping
While vaping - any time the vapor seems light, dry, or tastes the tiniest bit off or loses flavor, or if the carto is getting abnormally warm, I add liquid. I also occasionally look at the stuffing (especially before putting a fresh battery on or before going out) and if the top of the stuffing looks white, I add some juice. No settle needed when just keeping the carto damp. And if you do not keep it damp or if you use juice that is too thick (too much VG) you will singe the carto and that adds a bitter taste.
I use a simple plastic or delrin drip tip in place of the end cap so it is easy for me to remove that to look at the stuffing or add juice. I use thin clear juices that leave the stuffing white.
I've never had a problem like that with the cool carts, but I use Wow peppermint and after a while, it starts to taste more like toothpaste than peppermint so I stopped using them. I've had horrible trouble with Kanger horizontal coil cartomizers tasting like a burning paint factory. Boge is better, but the TH and flavor are compromised IMHO. I found some LR cartos at Vapors Etc which provide all the flavor and TH. They're the best ones I have found to date.
Had the same problem, tasted burned, threw out and entire pack of em....no more for me thank you!
I like coolcarts. Ive been using them for years. I have no more issues with them than any of the other cartos Ive used. I think once you get used to filling them they are great. I do use them at 5v though.
cartos do get a bad taste after awhile try cleaning with alcohol but iv noticed the burnt taste sometimes wont go away thats when i know its time for the trash but i always try cleaning them befor i chuck them money is haed to come by these days.
Usually burnt is not enough juice. It's the coil burning the filler.
I love them too. Nice clean flavours and oodles of vapour, more so than the boges. I do use a carto tank as well though so that might be the difference
I had the same experience as you sammeanne. my coolcarts all tasted like plastic, which, interestingly, i just complained to v4l about tonight. won't buy prefilled from them again, but did get some blanks.
i think the frustrating part of all of this is that i want to replace eciggs for anologues. for two weeks now i've gone back to smoking twice because i can't get vaping to work. like you, i didn't wan't to fool around with filling and atomizers and mods, oh my!
i decided that they had sent me some cartos that were dry and so filled them with some juice i got. the taste is definitely better, so i was right! as for their customer service, it's so so. my starter kit didn't come with one of the items listed. i'm still waiting for it...thus my call.
i do like their batteries though....so this weekend i'll be playing with my juices, my blanks, and all the batteries i've acquired since i started this three weeks ago.
but still, why does it have to be so hard?
i think the frustrating part of all of this is that i want to replace eciggs for anologues. for two weeks now i've gone back to smoking twice because i can't get vaping to work. like you, i didn't wan't to fool around with filling and atomizers and mods, oh my!
i decided that they had sent me some cartos that were dry and so filled them with some juice i got. the taste is definitely better, so i was right! as for their customer service, it's so so. my starter kit didn't come with one of the items listed. i'm still waiting for it...thus my call.
i do like their batteries though....so this weekend i'll be playing with my juices, my blanks, and all the batteries i've acquired since i started this three weeks ago.
but still, why does it have to be so hard?
Once you get the hang of it, find your favorite e-cig setup and juices, and start to build a stockpile, it will all become more simple. I never liked cool carts from V4L because they always "spit" at me. I love their Wow carts, though. I find that there's much better flavor with those - and the Wow juices are good too.
the 2 things i dislike about vapor4life is
1 it takes them a couple days (sometimes a few) to reply to your email (i work during their hours so i hardly have time to call and figure it all out) but the good thing is when they do reply they always correct their mistakes.
and secondly they can NEVER seem to get my order right, whether it the wrong color batt or an expired juice. it's annoying. i've ordered from them atleast 10 times and only 2 of those orders were correct.
i'll only buy blank cartos from them from now on, but i do want one of those new titan batts...a yellow one
i just wasn't filling them enough, now i have no problem with them! but dang that cotton taste is just disgusting...
1 it takes them a couple days (sometimes a few) to reply to your email (i work during their hours so i hardly have time to call and figure it all out) but the good thing is when they do reply they always correct their mistakes.
and secondly they can NEVER seem to get my order right, whether it the wrong color batt or an expired juice. it's annoying. i've ordered from them atleast 10 times and only 2 of those orders were correct.
i'll only buy blank cartos from them from now on, but i do want one of those new titan batts...a yellow one
i just wasn't filling them enough, now i have no problem with them! but dang that cotton taste is just disgusting...
i'll only buy blank cartos from them from now on, but i do want one of those new titan batts...a yellow one
Maybe you should consider buying one of those KR808 carto tanks? I haven't tried them so I don't know if they're any good or not but they don't have the cotton batting.
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