need some advise

[Kgb424]

I'm new to vaporizing, and new to building RDA's and I give up trying to build dual coils, I own a Trident clone with cap screws that go on the posts. The posts have slots cut in them for the coil to go into, and there a pain in my ### to get them to thread right and if you get them to thread you got tighten them so much they cut the coil wire, and the center post, you have both coil wires into the one post, and its just to hard to get them adjusted while trying to tighten the center one. and my other RDA in a Helios clone and has tiny little 2mm screws and the same thing, you got to tighten them so much they cut the coil wire, cause the coils are loose and won't fire until you tighten the #### out of them.

and for the life of me I can't get the two coils to fire evenly and one is always brighter then the other one, and you get a burnt taste or a metal taste, now I got Vapor tongue, cause I can't none of my juices,


so is there a RDA that is easy to build dual coils on, with out the ####### cross threading cap screws or ####### 2mm screws that cut the wire every damn time. and the air holes on the Helios suck, you have adjust the coils so high off the deck to get the air holes just right. or you get a ###### draw, and the air holes on the Trident I had to drill out the air holes to 7/64 to get a good draw and then same thing you need to adjust the coils so the they get the air on the coil.

So would I be better off buying authentic RDA's. That are easier to work on, any suggestions of a good RDA that I don't have to fight to make it a dual coil, I had a Genesis style RBA and hated it, I gave it away, and bought two Kayfun 3.1 clones and I have no problems building them with 28guage twisted wire and chimney coils and they give me great flavor and vapor, but I want a sub ohm dripper so please can some one suggest one. thank you


sorry this is so long but I'm ...... off and fighting them

 

[Dissonance]

Couple suggestions here...

1) If you're having trouble building dual coils, buying an authentic isn't going to make it any easier. A lot of the clones out there are 1:1 and the exact same quality as the original, so buying the authentic would just put you more money in the hole. Do you really wanna go dropping $80-200 on something you may or may not like?

2) In general... Single coils are a lot easier than dual coils. Try something like the IGO-L, learn how to build your single coils and get the leads trapped under the screws, positioning of the coil, etc. then try something with dual coils. Dual coils are a lot harder, since you have to worry about 2 coils while tightening down that center post... As well as them having the same legs, and exact same position relative to the positive and negative posts. Also, if you're doing microcoils, you have to make sure they're both squeezed together well and glow from the inside out at the same time (Little tip with that: After you squeeze one, blow on the coils to cool them off... The tweezers will take some of the heat out of the coil you just squeezed, so if you try to fire again right after then the other coil will light up quicker from the retained heat). All these things combined make it a whole lot harder to build dual coils than single coils, especially if you're new to rebuilding. Once you've mastered single coils in drippers, then move on to dual coils.

3) As for easier RDA's for you to work with... That'll vary from person to person. Basically you gotta either learn that "sweet spot" with the ones that you thread the leads through the posts then tighten the screws down on to not make it cut the wire but still make a connection... Or learn how to deal with the type where you gotta tighten a screw down with your leads wrapped around said screw and not have it mess with your coils. Make sure you're keeping a drill bit or something in the coils while you're trapping the lead either way, it'll help keep them nice and neat and makes adjusting them / holding them in place a whole lot easier. As far as the air flow problem goes, look into something like the Magma (Again, clone, if you're having problems don't go dropping $100+ on something you may or may not like) where the air comes from below the coils rather than from the side in the top cap.

 

[Kgb424]

the only reason I asked about a authentic RDA is the they don't use the 2mm screws like the Helios clone does or the cap screws that cross thread like my Trident clone does. the authentic RDA has higher quality of fasteners and designed more user friendly then the less than $30 dollar clones I bought on E-Bay that are made in a Chinese sweat shop by 12 year olds, the authentic RDA's are better quality and you know it and worth the money especially, if you find one that easy to rebuild and works good, even at the Vapor Supply place, I buy my juices at, they rebuild RDA's for $4 dollars and they tell me my clones are a pain in the ..., and they build RDA's for a living so it not just me.

 

[Dissonance]

the only reason I asked about a authentic RDA is the they don't use the 2mm screws like the Helios clone does or the cap screws that cross thread like my Trident clone does. the authentic RDA has higher quality of fasteners and designed more user friendly then the less than $30 dollar clones I bought on E-Bay that are made in a Chinese sweat shop by 12 year olds, the authentic RDA's are better quality and you know it and worth the money especially, if you find one that easy to rebuild and works good, even at the Vapor Supply place, I buy my juices at, they rebuild RDA's for $4 dollars and they tell me my clones are a pain in the ..., and they build RDA's for a living so it not just me.

Sounds like you got bad clones then... Get ones from a known company like hcigar or tobeco.

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

Pick up a Helios or a Brass Monkey - easy as pie to coil any way you want, dual as easy as single.

and for the life of me I can't get the two coils to fire evenly and one is always brighter then the other one

lol welcome to the club. There is a lot that goes into conductivity and resistance, much more than gauge and wraps. To get em glowing evenly you they have to really be the same exact shape/tilt/etc, with the same length leads. Is kinda a PITA, and usually if one heats up a little faster it is not a big deal.

Although when you do get em even it's actually way better.

 

[john333]

On my Trident V2 I had issues with the posts. When I would screw on the caps they would still be loose. I remedied this with a flat head screw driver. Place the flat head in the slot and gently pry open the slot just a bit. The result was the caps grip the threads much easier. Good luck.

 

[Rule62]

IMO The easiest RDA to build dual coils on is the Brass Monkey. It has dual positive posts, like the Helios, but the coil sits lower on the deck than the Helios does. As for the Trident, I have a Trident V2, and the threading on the posts is much better than the clones.

 

[Kgb424]

I don't like the Trident, the center post its a pain in the ### to secure both coil wires, I made a one piece of wire with dual coils on it, it took me awhile to figure out how to bend it just right to see if it would work, it glowed red going thru the center post, and it got pretty hot, I didn't want to melt the insulator, and I could not get it to not glow going thru the center post, and the coils still would not fire evenly.

I don't like the Helios the air flow sucks and you got to line up the coils just right or you get a ###### draw, and don't like the 2mm screws, they strip pretty easy and there a pain in my ### to get tight and they don't stay tight until you crank down on them and they cut the wire.

I'm over them, looking for there replacements right now and I wouldn't pass these nightmares on to my worst enemy.

 

[Kgb424]

just looked at better picture of the Brass Monkey, and its got 2mm screws, and doesn't look like they change the airflow, so it a more expensive Helios I'm going to pass on the Monkey there got to be better and easier RDA's out there.

 

[Kgb424]

I just got verified so now I can look in the for sale section of the classifieds, and see what I can find

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

I've had me eye on a Magma V2 for a while

 

[Kgb424]

hey deadbeat there are a couple new Magma's there for sale in the classifieds check it out

 

[havok333]

Check out the Zenith V2! The clones should be available about now, and I think I saw one earlier at gvapes website. I'm waiting on a preorder now to come in for my authentics. The posts have horizontal slits to trap our wire, and use allen screws which I've found don't cut your wires as easily when tightening down. Can build single or dual coils on it.

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[Kgb424]

hey havok333 it looks like, you need to use ribbon wire the way the posts have the slots cut in them. no offence I don't like brass rings on my stainless steel atomizers, it bothers me cause it will turn black and get even uglier to me.

 

[Kgb424]

I did find a Spirit 22mm RDA that's designed by a American company and might be made here too, instead of a Chinese sweat shop made by 12 year olds, like my piece of #### Trident clone and the piece of ####Helios clone. I can put a Patriot top cap on the Spirit and that means I can also put a Halo air adjustable top cap, that gives you quick access to drip directly on the coils. and I found it on here in the classifieds thank you for verifying me so I can now buy and sell and trade, any body want to trade for a slightly used Trident clone and a Helios Clone. instead of throwing them away.

 

[havok333]

hey havok333 it looks like, you need to use ribbon wire the way the posts have the slots cut in them. no offence I don't like brass rings on my stainless steel atomizers, it bothers me cause it will turn black and get even uglier to me.

Round wire works fine in those slots, have similar posts in the Zenith V1 clone I have. Makes it way easier if you ever do wanna try the flat wire.

As for the AFC ring color, you can get one of four different colors on the Zenith V2. SS, anodized black, copper, or brass. Some clones come with all four.

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[Kgb424]

I'm having a hard time now with normal wire, I wouldn't even know where to start with ribbon wire, I know Ripp Trippers use ribbon wire and different gauges of round wire and twists it all together to make a big fat crazy looking coils, that got to be for sub ohm builds.

 

[havok333]

I'm having a hard time now with normal wire, I wouldn't even know where to start with ribbon wire, I know Ripp Trippers use ribbon wire and different gauges of round wire and twists it all together to make a big fat crazy looking coils, that got to be for sub ohm builds.

No worries on the flat wire. I tried it and wasn't impressed by it all that much, especially with the added aggravation.

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[Kgb424]

I bought a second non clone authentic Nimbus RDA made in the Philippines to tease my Fiancé that her cousins built it. found it on here loving the ECF classifieds.