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erm um.... drip, tank..... :blink:

if you are looking for a rda (rebuildable dripping atomizer) I'd suggest the wotofo profile rda with mesh coil
easy to install and great flavor.... it is my favorite (I now own 2 of them and looking to get more)
 

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If you want something to just test flavors on random occassions, and are not really interested in making/installing coils on a rebuildable drip atomizer, you do have another option.

Drip Atomizer non-rebuildable

In search of 510 atomizers

Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

These are disposable, and most are cheaper than a RDA. These are "old school" juice attachments, the ones used back in the day when vaping first got started.

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@Steensj2004 – The Oumier Wasp Nano is great for sampling juice and I use it for this purpose all the time. The short, reduced design really promotes flavours and given not much cotton is needed to wick, you do not waste a lot when changing your cotton for different flavoured juice. I can get 8 wicks out of 1 Muji cotton pad with this RDA.
 

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erm um.... drip, tank..... :blink:

if you are looking for a rda (rebuildable dripping atomizer) I'd suggest the wotofo profile rda with mesh coil
easy to install and great flavor.... it is my favorite (I now own 2 of them and looking to get more)
You knew what I was asking for.... lol.

I’ll check when out.
 

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@Steensj2004 , everyone has a different opinion and all of them are valid, but I'll just throw mine in.

I don't like using mesh for flavor testing mixes. I think the flavor is OK, but the temp ramp up time is too long with mesh unless you run fairly high wattage. And the deal with wattage for me is I want to flavor test at around 30~35W, which is kind of the center of MTL low watt and DTL guys. Since flavors change with power, this is kind of vaping at a mean average for flavor and there won't be too significant flavor change going higher or lower wattage. There will be some though.

For an RDA. Just about any single coil with a reduced chamber will do. My preference right now is the Drop Solo which is a single coil, small chamber RDA. But there are lots of good choices. I build it with 28Ga SS316L at 7 wraps, which is around 0.7Ohms depending on leg length, and very quick ramp up at 30W and flavor is very good. But there are lots of good single coil RDAs available, and whichever one you pick you will need to build a few times to learn it's quirks. So just go with what you read in the RDA section of the forum and is relatively cheap. So it's not so much the RDA you choose, but how you build it really.

Of course use good cotton, COTN, Cotton Bacon, Muji, Koh Gen Do, or whatever good cotton you find since cotton will change the flavor.

And finally, take your time researching an RDA since once you choose one for juice testing you will ideally stay with that for a long time. Using the same atty, with the same build and cotton is the only way you are going to be able to taste the subtle difference as you dial in a mix.
 

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@Steensj2004 , everyone has a different opinion and all of them are valid, but I'll just throw mine in.

I don't like using mesh for flavor testing mixes. I think the flavor is OK, but the temp ramp up time is too long with mesh unless you run fairly high wattage. And the deal with wattage for me is I want to flavor test at around 30~35W, which is kind of the center of MTL low watt and DTL guys. Since flavors change with power, this is kind of vaping at a mean average for flavor and there won't be too significant flavor change going higher or lower wattage. There will be some though.

For an RDA. Just about any single coil with a reduced chamber will do. My preference right now is the Drop Solo which is a single coil, small chamber RDA. But there are lots of good choices. I build it with 28Ga SS316L at 7 wraps, which is around 0.7Ohms depending on leg length, and very quick ramp up at 30W and flavor is very good. But there are lots of good single coil RDAs available, and whichever one you pick you will need to build a few times to learn it's quirks. So just go with what you read in the RDA section of the forum and is relatively cheap. So it's not so much the RDA you choose, but how you build it really.

Of course use good cotton, COTN, Cotton Bacon, Muji, Koh Gen Do, or whatever good cotton you find since cotton will change the flavor.

And finally, take your time researching an RDA since once you choose one for juice testing you will ideally stay with that for a long time. Using the same atty, with the same build and cotton is the only way you are going to be able to taste the subtle difference as you dial in a mix.

Fantastic information. Thanks for taking the time to write this up. I’m in no huge hurry, and as you mentioned, I’m just really trying to narrow down the best option for me.
 
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@Steensj2004 , everyone has a different opinion and all of them are valid, but I'll just throw mine in.

I don't like using mesh for flavor testing mixes. I think the flavor is OK, but the temp ramp up time is too long with mesh unless you run fairly high wattage. And the deal with wattage for me is I want to flavor test at around 30~35W, which is kind of the center of MTL low watt and DTL guys. Since flavors change with power, this is kind of vaping at a mean average for flavor and there won't be too significant flavor change going higher or lower wattage. There will be some though.
I don't really agree there, I have found that it ramps up quick and I only vape at 20w ;)
personally the flavor on the profile with mesh has been the best I have found
but I think it's probably the easiest to setup and rewick, less hassle for testing (or even daily use)
I do know a lot of people use the wasp nano
I still think that the clamp deck and spring loaded ceramic base of the profile makes it much easier to use
 

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I’d have to shadow @Shadav comments. Ramp up and even cool down time on the Profile is non existent. However, the Profile does give a different quality of vape in comparison to its coil counterparts – that difference should have value to an end user. Some like it, some do not.

It is easy to wick, but if you are in the habit of changing cotton when you change flavours, especially for the purpose of sampling, one should take note of the amount of cotton needed to properly wick the Profile which is roughly 3x that of a typical 3mm coil. This maybe a concern to some if using more expensive cotton such as Cotton Bacon. But cheaper cotton, or even Rayon in bulk can be obtained.

However, on the flip side the cotton lasts so much longer with the Profile (sans dry burns) so if you are not in the habit of rewicking every time you change flavours, or just do not change flavours, then the ongoing cost of the Profile does become more economical, in fact I have found it to be even cheaper.

@Steensj2004 – any quality RDA can be used. The Wasp Nano is dirt cheap, operates very well, requires little cotton and is very easy to wick which makes it an excellent candidate for the purpose of sampling. But that is not to say any other RDA cannot be used, mesh or coil. If your daily driver is a mesh RDA, then perhaps you may want to use something to sample that is consistent with what you usually use.
 
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Could someone please suggest a Drip style tank I can screw onto my current G-Priv 2, or, a mod kid that’s a drip style. I want to be able to drip and test new DIY recipes without cleaning a tank every time. Would something like this work?

OUMIER WASP NANO 22mm RDA | Vape Rebuildables

As someone already said, It's RDA, no tank is involved.

And it's more of a personal choice depending on what tank you use. Some drippers are geared towards flavor, some are geared towards clouds. I would get something that has a similar profile to the tank you use.

I do what you're looking to do. I use a rebuildable tank (RTA), and currently I use a Goblin Mini/Fresia as my main tanks. They're geared more towards flavor than clouds, and offer a restrictive lung hit. I use a Derringer RDA to test new juices (currently testing a tangerine with some sour flavoring added to it) I made a batch of the new juice, and built the RDA to a similar ohm reading I restrict the airflow similar to what my tanks use and I go through a bottle of juice using the dripper to test the flavors. and will make adjustments to the flavor as I vape the bottle. I don't use recipes, but I've been doing my own juices for quite a while. With this last flavoring, I think I did fine, but I may have put a little too much sour. I put in %3 sour, but next batch, I'll put in %1 sour to see if it's better. I like to work with percentages so I can carry the recipe over from size to size. I have a text file of my favorite recipes done in that way and list even the bad ones and why they're bad.. that way, if I don't like something, I know why. That system works for me,

So, before I can suggest an RDA, I'd have to ask what kind of RTA you use. if you use something like a SMOK tank, you might want to look into getting a bigger RTA that emulates more of a SMOK setup. This wasp looks like it's a flavor build with airflow on the lower side (just how *I* like my RDAs). Single coil build will not accurately emulate a Smok tank since it has quite a small airflow and chamber, and can accept only a small coil. The only negative thing I can see with the wasp, is it doesn't have adjustable airflow, so I can't change it to emulate my tanks.

I hope my example helps give some insight as to what you're looking for.
 

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I don't really agree there, I have found that it ramps up quick and I only vape at 20w ;)
personally the flavor on the profile with mesh has been the best I have found
but I think it's probably the easiest to setup and rewick, less hassle for testing (or even daily use)
I do know a lot of people use the wasp nano
I still think that the clamp deck and spring loaded ceramic base of the profile makes it much easier to use

As I said just my opinion, and yours is just as good an opinion. No worries.

I agree the Profile with mesh is an easy build, especially if you use the premade mesh strips. What could be easier? But I find a 24mm size to be a bit big for flavor, I prefer a smaller chamber and a 22mm atty for taste testing. But that's just me.

I guess the most important thing is consistency in testing method, just like mixing juice. When dialing in juice mixes and trying to determine the nuances of small changes, consistency of method from mixing to atty preparation to draw style all matter greatly.

At the end of the day we all have to find what works best for ourselves.
 

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I agree the Profile with mesh is an easy build, especially if you use the premade mesh strips. What could be easier? But I find a 24mm size to be a bit big for flavor, I prefer a smaller chamber and a 22mm atty for taste testing. But that's just me.

The Profile employs a 20mm deck, the thickness of it’s cap makes it a 24mm RDA. 22mm caps can be purchased. The internal volume of the Profile that does not include what is consumed by the posts, mesh and cotton is less than that of the Drop Solo. Not questioning your preferences, just pointing out some facts.
 
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I’m in no huge hurry, and as you mentioned, I’m just really trying to narrow down the best option for me.
I vape nothing but RDA's but never tried a RDTA. For taste at the wattage I vape at, 2 pole, standard ohms,single coil cool vape, I get good taste results from the Snapdragon and Magma Styled RDA Atomizers.
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Tobeco Magma Clone 22mm RDA Rebuildable Atty
For rapid processing single flavors and DIY mix test, I just use my snapdragon* with a 3mm ID coil and coat the extended wick only and not bother filling the entire well/tank. After a few vapes, I can change the wick in a minute and off to the next test.
* The Snapdragon cap is push on/pull off where the Magma has to be screwed off.
To get to know more about RDA's, might like to read:
Drip Vaping: Your Guide to Dripping e-Juice | Vape-Resource.com
http://spinfuel.com/art-drip-guide-vaping/
(7) Information Resources for Your First RBA | E-Cigarette Forum
 

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Just buy a couple clones from China, single is ideal imo. Keep in mind the juice will not taste the same in a tank. If the flavor is too strong as a drip it may be ideal in a tank regardless of build. To get closer to a tank taste go with an rda that is a bit airier and has a bigger chamber.
 
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The Profile employs a 20mm deck, the thickness of it’s cap makes it a 24mm RDA. 22mm caps can be purchased. The internal volume of the Profile that does not include what is consumed by the posts, mesh and cotton is less than that of the Drop Solo. Not questioning your preferences, just pointing out some facts.

Not really understanding your point. By the same analysis the drop solo is a 22mm atty and the deck is a 17mm ID. The posts make no difference unless the coil is below the tops of the posts really. The vapor portion is above the coil to the top of the cap where the vapors happen yeah? The suction of the draw and airflow path makes this certain, the vapor is exhausted from the chamber so the volume of the chamber below the coil is not so important unless the air intake is low on the deck which could have some small effect... maybe. But both the profile and the drop solo have side air intake at coil level... so equivalence there.

I think you are confusing your opinion for facts and I get you like the profile, which is great. But I'm not buying the facts thing. Facts are quantifiable, measurable and repeatable. I guess the only way to be sure is to do a volumetric measurement of the chamber from the centerline of the coil/mesh to the top of the air chamber, but that seems like more trouble than it's worth. Probably be better for the OP to buy several RDAs and decide the best for himself... just like most of us have done. But at least he now has a lot of information from this thread to start making informed purchasing decisions, so it's been a useful conversation.

I'm also not commenting about general vaping. This a special use case type of vaping just for flavor testing, so the techniques and requirements are very different than just a good vape.
 

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Not really understanding your point. By the same analysis the drop solo is a 22mm atty and the deck is a 17mm ID. The posts make no difference unless the coil is below the tops of the posts really. The vapor portion is above the coil to the top of the cap where the vapors happen yeah? The suction of the draw and airflow path makes this certain, the vapor is exhausted from the chamber so the volume of the chamber below the coil is not so important unless the air intake is low on the deck which could have some small effect... maybe. But both the profile and the drop solo have side air intake at coil level... so equivalence there.

I think you are confusing your opinion for facts and I get you like the profile, which is great. But I'm not buying the facts thing. Facts are quantifiable, measurable and repeatable. I guess the only way to be sure is to do a volumetric measurement of the chamber from the centerline of the coil/mesh to the top of the air chamber, but that seems like more trouble than it's worth. Probably be better for the OP to buy several RDAs and decide the best for himself... just like most of us have done. But at least he now has a lot of information from this thread to start making informed purchasing decisions, so it's been a useful conversation.

I'm also not commenting about general vaping. This a special use case type of vaping just for flavor testing, so the techniques and requirements are very different than just a good vape.

I am not confusing opinion with fact. I did not even bring up my opinion with that comment. Owning both the Profile and Drop Solo I made a measurement and shared that information. You made the statement that you found 24mm to be a bit big for flavour and that you prefer a 22mm reduced chamber. That is a fair analysis to which I am not objecting, but not a correct one if comparing the Drop Solo to the Profile simply based on these measurements. A quick measurement tells me the Profile’s internal volume, not including any fixtures such as the posts, is less than the Solo. The difference is not vast, and personally I feel there a much more qualifying factors, but there is a difference which makes it fact. It also identifies that the 24mm outer diameter of the Profile has no bearing on its internal volume which is where a reduced chamber plays into effect. Would you not agree?

I made no mention over what is preferred or how a reduced chamber affects the quality of the vape. The Wasp Nano, which I also own, has an even smaller chamber with its coil positioned even closer to the exhaust than both the Profile and Solo, does this mean it performs better?

And again, I am not questioning your preference.
 

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I am not confusing opinion with fact. I did not even bring up my opinion with that comment. Owning both the Profile and Drop Solo I made a measurement and shared that information. You made the statement that you found 24mm to be a bit big for flavour and that you prefer a 22mm reduced chamber. That is a fair analysis to which I am not objecting, but not a correct one if comparing the Drop Solo to the Profile simply based on these measurements. A quick measurement tells me the Profile’s internal volume, not including any fixtures such as the posts, is less than the Solo. The difference is not vast, and personally I feel there a much more qualifying factors, but there is a difference which makes it fact. It also identifies that the 24mm outer diameter of the Profile has no bearing on its internal volume which is where a reduced chamber plays into effect. Would you not agree?

I made no mention over what is preferred or how a reduced chamber affects the quality of the vape. The Wasp Nano, which I also own, has an even smaller chamber with its coil positioned even closer to the exhaust than both the Profile and Solo, does this mean it performs better?

And again, I am not questioning your preference.

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