Need throat hit!

[thewomenfolk]

I have a friend who quit smoking 4 days ago. She's vaping with zero nicotine and wearing a nicotine patch. She wants to get off the nicotine completely and is determined in this matter. The problem is....

She misses the throat hit cigarettes give. And from what I've heard, it's nicotine that helps give a better TH. She really likes Menthol and is using menthol crystals to try to get a better TH but thinks she needs too many crystals...can that be dangerous?

Does anyone know how a person can make or buy a good juice that gives a great throat hit without nicotine? I'd really like to help her out.

 

[Happy Domino38]

I'd suggest that she goes to Tasty Vapor and buys a bottle of Atomic Cinnacide. That's got LOTS of kick!

BUT, make sure she likes CINNAMON!! It's like vaping Big Red Gum...before the flavor runs out of it..

I'm NOT a menthol fan, so can't help you there, but I HAVE heard of people added a few drops of PGA to increase throat hit. (Pure Grain Alcohol)

Good luck!

 

[Seabrook]

I'd suggest that she goes to Tasty Vapor and buys a bottle of Atomic Cinnacide. That's got LOTS of kick!

BUT, make sure she likes CINNAMON!! It's like vaping Big Red Gum...before the flavor runs out of it..

I'm NOT a menthol fan, so can't help you there, but I HAVE heard of people added a few drops of PGA to increase throat hit. (Pure Grain Alcohol)

Good luck!

Yep, ditto on all.

 

[jude8753]

The closest I came to the TH I wanted was with V4L premium carts. Not sure what they carry in menthol because I didn't check everything out yet, but the warmth that enveloped my throat from just a low nic/8mg flavor was a pure physical pleasure and left me wanting more, but next time in a higher mg. Just have to wait for more money before I get more and hope it's the same delightful experience.

 

[Michelle M]

The peppermint WOW cartomizers from Vapor 4 Life are pretty awesome! Loads of flavor and vapor. Sooo minty and kind of sweet-warm rather than cold. Delicious.

 

[Happy Domino38]

AND, if she's using the patch anyway, why not ditch the patch and order a low nic liquid? A lot easier...

 

[thewomenfolk]

Yeah, I suggested a low nic or even higher nic juice and then to gradually cut down to nothing but she doesn't even want to start any juice with nicotine. And the Atomic Cyanide....I dumped my whole doubler bottle down the drain when I saw all that oil at the top. I think it's got to be unhealthy and it scared me.

Is there just no getting a throat hit w/o nicotine? Strangely, she doesn't give two hoots about vapor, but she'd really like a throat hit.

 

[Happy Domino38]

YOU DUMPED A FULL DOUBLER OF A.C. DOWN THE DRAIN?!?!?!?

Some liquids DO separate, all you had to do was shake it a bit!! 8-o

And, here we go round the mulberry bush again, but she's GETTING nicotine using the patch, no? What's the difference? If I were in HER shoes and that was the way I wanted to go, I'd rather vape the nic than patch it...more control on your part. She can get nic when she feels she NEEDS it, not all day long..

 

[Ast_Isis]

When I used higher nicotine liquids, I mixed 30/70 VG/PG. Now that I am at 0mg/ml and 6mg/ml I mix at 15/85 VG/PG which gives more of a throat hit and less vapor.

 

[Happy Domino38]

When I used higher nicotine liquids, I mixed 30/70 VG/PG. Now that I am at 0mg/ml and 6mg/ml I mix at 15/85 VG/PG which gives more of a throat hit and less vapor.

There you go OP, a resident 0 nic expert!!

 

[jude8753]

Gonna get some Everclear tomorrow from MD since PA doesn't sell PGA and mix that with VG and I'm told that the TH is phenomenal with or without nic.

 

[Zurd]

Nicotine just by itself in our PV ain't that much of a drug, I'd compare it to cafeine, it's pretty much harmless, it ain't in analogs because it's mixed with other chemicals, so the reaction is a real addictive drug.

Vaping just 11mg (which I vape) is really not much, it gives a good throat hit and that's it. And I bet you can't detect nicotine in your blood if you vape 6mg.

 

[unsure]

I'd suggest that she goes to Tasty Vapor and buys a bottle of Atomic Cinnacide. That's got LOTS of kick!

BUT, make sure she likes CINNAMON!! It's like vaping Big Red Gum...before the flavor runs out of it..

I'm NOT a menthol fan, so can't help you there, but I HAVE heard of people added a few drops of PGA to increase throat hit. (Pure Grain Alcohol)

Good luck!

Exactly how I did it. 2 months NIC FREE. Besides the AC I vape RUM X2 and other overpowering flavors and had the suppilier double the flavor. Now not an issue at all. I have no want for tobacco and no need for nicotine but an incredible urge to puff/vape. There is no reason why I should feel this need to puff!?!? I have sold all my convience mods (autojuicers/long battery life) except for the REO (which will be the last bargin I post in the morning) in hopes the annoyance of of battery dying and constant refill/replacing carts will get me to quit altogether.

 

[thewomenfolk]

I didn't want to shake up that Atomic Cyanide because then I'd be vaping all that oil. Not good. I've got some Everclear, I'll see if that'll work. Thanks for all your suggestions. And keep them coming!

 

[Mike306]

Gonna get some Everclear tomorrow from MD since PA doesn't sell PGA and mix that with VG and I'm told that the TH is phenomenal with or without nic.

Prepare to be totally underwhelmed.

PGA does not impact TH in any noticeable way. Since reading suggestions to try it on this board, I've done some experimentation, as well as some research into the chemistry of nicotine absorption rates (as it was submitted that PGA may help with increase absorption, thereby creating more TH).

Here's a post documenting my first experiments. I've since followed up with a blind test on separate, identical attys/batteries/juices. None have shown any increased TH.

If you are buying some Everclear, a great use for it is cleaning and disinfecting. Otherwise, it serves little purpose in e-juices (except maybe as a thinning agent).

The real, recognizable TH in cigarettes is from the nicotine (and some of the other caustic chemicals, like formaldehyde, added to generate a more basic pH in order to increase absorption...and addiction).

That said, there are some juices out there that pack a punch. I haven't tried any of them at zero nic, though.

I have found that a manual battery helps, because you can increase the temperature of your vapor (which creates a bit of a bump to the lungs upon fast inhale from the mouth).

Hope this helps.

Mike

 

[Ast_Isis]

Mike, I agree that PGA does not really help with TH. I also tried mixing it with my 0 nic liquids. It did not increase the TH but I could taste it. (Tastebuds on overdrive after 8.5 months of not smoking.)

I also tried Tasty Vapors Atomic Cinnicide doubler which does give a nice throat hit but it makes my mouth tingly and my tongue numb. It tastes great and I will use it as an occasional vape.

Menthol is also said to help but I just hate hate hate the taste so refuse to try it.

Higher voltages also help and I will bump up my GGTS from my usual 3.7v to 6v once in awhile but prefer 3.7v.

TH is different for everyone so it takes some experimentation to find the right combination once you go to low or 0 nicotine.

 

[YKruss]

Thewomenfolk,

I read somewhere on ECF yesterday and saved this suggestion:

Using an empty 30 mil bottle I'll fill it half way with vodka and
the other half with tabasco. I'll then run it through a coffee filter
into another 30 mil bottle. The end result is a golden liquid that
will make up about 15 to 20% to volume of my homemade liquids.

I vape strictly 0 nic and this gives me a nice throat hit.

I made it up once and it was intresting to say the least...
More of a 'warm burn' than a throat hit - but it was enjoyable....

 

[Richie G]

Prepare to be totally underwhelmed.

PGA does not impact TH in any noticeable way. Since reading suggestions to try it on this board, I've done some experimentation, as well as some research into the chemistry of nicotine absorption rates (as it was submitted that PGA may help with increase absorption, thereby creating more TH).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/98099-my-take-pga.htmlHope this helps.

Mike

Good post, Mike.

I find that PGA warms the vapor (alcohol burns hotter than PG/VG) and gives an illusion of a better TH, which may be enough of a self-induced ruse for some folks. =)

To the OP...

A LR atomizer may help your friend. The hotter temperature of the vapor may satisfy enough -- albeit, I have NO experience with 0 nic.

 

[Seabrook]

Vapor Renu is my vendor, because they carry my faves (Wild Cherry, Bubblegum, Teaberry). They have an option for TH. I ordered their Vapor Renu Blend with "Agressive," throat hit, and that was just way too much for me -- gave me a cough every time I took a puff. If you want to give them a try, a 30ml is only $6.99, but they do charge sales tax plus S/H with every order -- unless you buy in bulk.

 

[Xanax]

RY4 from MyFreedomSmokes.com has an INSANE throat hit. I only vape it when I have really bad cravings cause it's the juice that's most like a cigarette to me. Plus it has a very nice smokey (yes, actually smokey) tobacco taste to it.


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