New Mech or Atomizer?

[Ranic85]

Hey guys,

I am thinking of buying a new mechanical. I just got the Magneto a couple weeks ago, and I like it. I just feel it could pack a harder punch. I was looking at some mods (most sold out) such as the Nemesis, Electric Angel, Rook, Sentinel M16. I am just not sure which one to get if I decide to go that route. Also for 150-200$ I would like to get silver contacts, over brass or copper. At least silver plate Copper contacts. Anyone have any options of which mechanical I should go after?

If I decide against a new Mechanical I was looking at getting a new rda. The only rda I own is the Nimbus by JPGE. I was looking at possibly getting a Trident, Patriot, Omega, or a Cyclone. Anyone have any other ideas for a high end rda?

Only reason I am leaning toward getting a high end mech over a high end RDA is I kind of need a good mechanical to push the atomizer harder. So confused....

 

[Raycecar]

For a mechanical, look at the GMS Mod.
They go for around $180, HARD hitter with PURE silver contacts.

Also, there's the Vanilla Mod.
Goes for around $150, hits hard with copper contacts.

For an RDA, I'd prefer something with an AFC Ring like the Omega, as you don't have to worry about drilling holes.
I've tried the Trident, Trident V2, and the Atomic. All great atomizers.

 

[Ranic85]

I like the Vanilla Mod the way it looks more than the GMS. Again trying to find any of these in stock is a challenge.

 

[Raycecar]

Local Vape

Has a Brass Vanilla in stock. If I find one, I'll let you know.

 

[Ranic85]

I am really digging the Atom Mechanical! I might just drop the money on that one, since the Vaperev edition of the Nemesis isn't in stock. Any opinions on the ATOM?

 

[asf146]

what battery are you using? I suggest a 18650 if you're not using one. 18350's and such will work, but for a VERY short time.

I have a sentinel v3 and trident. I have 3 of the 18650 batteries that I use each of for probably about 4 hours each or longer depending on how much I use it, and by the end of the day I'm set with a fresh battery in for the next morning.

the trident is a very good choice.... it's almost not even a matter of opinion lol

 

[TreVader]

Cyclone AFC, hands down. I own a Trident, Nimbus V5, Cyclone AFC, and Helios. The two best are the Cyclone and the Helios. The others are worthless without modding them, and even then they suck compared with the Cyclone or the Helios.


If you work with silica, go Helios. If you work with cotton, the Cyclone is the best. My favorite RDA by far. The build area is tiny tho, and only 2 posts (no quad coil).

 

[Ranic85]

what battery are you using? I suggest a 18650 if you're not using one. 18350's and such will work, but for a VERY short time.

I have a sentinel v3 and trident. I have 3 of the 18650 batteries that I use each of for probably about 4 hours each or longer depending on how much I use it, and by the end of the day I'm set with a fresh battery in for the next morning.

the trident is a very good choice.... it's almost not even a matter of opinion lol

I am using 18650s, MNKEs for sub ohm stuff, and AW 18650 2000mahs for my gennies at 1ohm and up.

 

[Ranic85]

I just decided I am going to order the Atom (granted it doesn't sell out before midnight when I can place the order), and I am going for an Omega.

 

[TreVader]

The omega could be great, idk... if i was looking to buy an dripping atomizer today... it would be a patriot or an omega. I never understood why people bothered with Igo stuff... no AFC no buy

 

[tc1]

A lot of people just don't use air control. They use the draw they prefer and vape away. That's why people use the Igo... they just drill out their preferred intake size.

 

[Ranic85]

A lot of people just don't use air control. They use the draw they prefer and vape away. That's why people use the Igo... they just drill out their preferred intake size.

I drilled my Nimbus to dual 1/8th inch air holes, and it works great that way. I like the idea of an adjustable airflow. Airflow to match the type of coils you have installed for that day.

Heres to hoping that they don't sell out of the Atom before midnight! These things sell like hot cakes.

 

[tc1]

I drilled my Nimbus to dual 1/8th inch air holes, and it works great that way. I like the idea of an adjustable airflow. Airflow to match the type of coils you have installed for that day.

Heres to hoping that they don't sell out of the Atom before midnight! These things sell like hot cakes.

Perhaps. But after awhile people tend to build their coils nearly identical ... and they certainly don't change them on a daily basis.
Honestly, most people I know who use air flow control, leave it on their preferred intake size. When they first get it they might play around but eventually they always seem to leave it on "one settings". *shrug*

Good luck on that Atom!

 

[Ranic85]

Thanks tc1! I hope it is worth the 172$ and I really hope it out performs the magneto.

 

[tc1]

Thanks tc1! I hope it is worth the 172$ and I really hope it out performs the magneto.

Not sure on that one. Didn't the Magneto fair pretty well when it came to voltage drop? I'm not sure if you'll gain a tremendous amount of performance. Frankly, even the cheap mechanicals these days do pretty well under load.

I know the brass nemesis clone has just been completed, and I would be willing to bet there will be almost NO voltage drop on a 1ohm or higher resistance ... and very little at sub-ohm.

 

[Ranic85]

Not sure on that one. Didn't the Magneto fair pretty well when it came to voltage drop? I'm not sure if you'll gain a tremendous amount of performance. Frankly, even the cheap mechanicals these days do pretty well under load.

I know the brass nemesis clone has just been completed, and I would be willing to bet there will be almost NO voltage drop on a 1ohm or higher resistance ... and very little at sub-ohm.

I know GrimmGreen did the voltage test, he swore he did it wrong, but on a 4.1volt battery, his device showed a dropped down to 3.7volts. Which I thought was pretty crazy.

 

[tc1]

I know GrimmGreen did the voltage test, he swore he did it wrong, but on a 4.1volt battery, his device showed a dropped down to 3.7volts. Which I thought was pretty crazy.

The problem with that is its not scientifically correct. In order to voltage test a device you need a constant power source that eliminates perhaps the biggest factor in voltage drop ... BATTERY.

So while he may have gotten a 0.4v drop (which isn't all that bad for an inline or at the coil reading) ... he very well may have seen the same voltage drop on say an Atom if he had tested with the same battery.

Also no two identical mods are machined the same. So while someone else might get a low voltage drop, that doesn't mean you'll achieve the same. This is why I've always maintained that while voltage drop tests are great to find your actual wattage being vaped, they don't really mean much for anything else. In short, people can and do get carried away with the voltage drop craze.

There are simply too many variables to account for in your average voltage drop tests that leave room for a spectrum of results, most of them actually being false positives.

http://www.calivapers.com/showthread.php?5222-Mod-Voltage-Test-Setup

^ Interesting data that poster is collecting.

 

[Ranic85]

Great information, thanks again Tc1!

 

[henbone11]

Panzer for a mod or Helios for a rda. just my opinion.

 

[Thrasher]

also it must be noted the voltage drop is not a "standard" for the mod, much of it will be based on the internal resistance of the battery as well as the actual resistance of the coil and the resistance of a mod at a certain wattage all combined, this is why voltage drop is so debated, and as amperage is increased how the current travels on the skin of the mod. (in general high power actually travels on the outside of a conductor).

and when testing mods for voltage drop several different setups need to be used to get an average. this is why one person gets a high drop and another says its very small for the same mods, unless they all compare the same identicle setup the results will never be the same.

get a good 18650 battery roll up a .7-.8ohm coil and im sure you will get a decent hit.