New member, new to vaping, many questions.

[69superbee]

Let me first start by saying Hey all! This will probably be a fairly long post as I have alot of questions. A little history first.

Started off a few weeks ago and the wife asking if I was ever going to try ecigs. So after some searching on the web all that kept really coming up was all the cigarette look-a-like types and found V2 to be the best rated but not available in stores and Blu also fairly well rated and available in stores. So I ordered a V2 kit and the next day I went and bought a Blu kit.

The Blu kit was alright but very very light to me, didnt feel like I was even inhaling anything, so I kept smoking analogs and it for the next few days while waiting on V2 kit to arrive, The V2 kit arrived and Wow, what a difference. Within about 2 days I had put down analogs for good. Move on to about a week later and the V2's still were just not cutting it (I am sure you have heard this journey many times).

I happened to find a local vapor shop, was very surprised to. Anyway I had done a little more research by now and was going in thinking I was going to buy a ego c twist for the VV I had heard so much about. I talked with the person and had a long discussion about those and also started asking about Provari's and such because I had heard them mentioned on the web. He actually owned a Provari and showed it to me and showed me the other mod he uses which is one they carry, the Sigeli Zmax. After some more discussion I asked him what he would reccomend so that in another week, month or even longer I wouldnt be searching for the next best thing. He said the Zmax hands down. So I went home with it a DCT he reccomended and some different eliquids.

Jump to 3 days later and my carto is messing up, press the button and it takes a few seconds to kick on, So I do more research and come to find out the settings are all wrong. It is very hard to find any real info on properly setting these things up. I am either looking in the wrong places or typing in the wrong questions. Anyway now that i have it set to RMA instead of mean its seems to be performing like a champ. Now onto some questions.

In both VV and VW mode is the Zmax adjusting the other automatically, even if I have the watts set at say 11 and switch over to VV mode? I know the differences in the Ohms for VV because thats seems to be what all the info is all about, I even seen the charts that are posted all over this site. Does that chart pertain to the VW mode as well? For example I have a 2.8 ohm clearo that seems to vape very nicely @ 6.5 watts, but my DCT @ 1.5 ohm I have to push up to 11+. Now by the chart I shouldnt be running it at 11, only up to 8ish max, why? I thought it was because a lower Ohm required a higher watt as where the reverse is true on volts mode. Now today I threw a wrench in that because I picked up a vivi nova 2 ml tank @ 2.4 ohms. I figured I would need to turn it up to around 8 watts because of how my DCT needs a higher wattage, but anything past 7 and its tastes burnt. So my thinking has changed and the question is. Does the 1.5 ohm DCT need a higher wattage because its actually 2 x 3 ohms meaning the higher the ohms the higher the wattage also meaning my 2.4 ohm needs to maybe be around 5.5 watts for the sweet spot or is it because the DCT is exactly that, a dual coil?

Another question is about the batteries that came with my Zmax. They are not AW IMR's which everyone suggests to buy. Should I buy some of those? Also I tend to just leave the batteries on the charger, I have heard this is bad but they are cool and the green light is on when I pull them off. My thinking is someone needs to make a better charger if the charger keeps charging them. Should I worry about this? Is it actually possible to overcharge them?

I also have some eliquids coming from Ecblends to find the right juice for me. Also looking at glass or pyrex tanks to order in very near future. But those are for another journey discussion.

Sorry for the rambling and run on sentences. And thanks for any help in advance.

 

[SilentScreams]

Welcome to ECF.

Some of your questions I can't answer, someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in I'm sure.

I will try to help with your 2.4 Vivi Nova. I run my Vivi Nova on a Vision Spinner with a 2.4ohm coil at approx 4.2v. This works best "for me". I do adjust it up or down just a bit depending on which juice I'm using to get better flavor. But 4.2 seems to be my sweet spot at the moment.

Hope that helps some. As I'm still new to VV that's about all I can help with at the moment. I haven't tried anything VW yet.

 

[SirSteve]

I am running a dual coil 1.5 ohm at 8 watts on a VAMO and have no problems with. In fact I normally leave the VAMO set at 8 watts for just about everything. I don't know why your DCT tank is acting like that, but a few things that others might want to know.

1. What is the pg/vg mixture you are running, and are you using the same juice in your other delivery systems?
2. How many holes are in the carto in your tank? VG is thicker and may need more or bigger holes.
3. Have you tried a different carto or juice in your tank, and if so what happens?
4. Is your tank on all the way, I only ask this because I have the ring that covers ego threads, works great with the ego style battery,
but if I try to use it with the VAMO it does not allow the tank to screw down enough to make contact and I get nothing.
5. Did you fill the carto as well as the tank, if not have you allowed the carto to soak in the tank, a dry carto will taste and hit bad.
6. Did you try the tank on another device? A 510 carto will fit the Blu if you have nothing else to test it on.

As for VW the device will set the voltage based on the ohms of the delivery system and the watts you have the device set at. VV the watts will vary depending on the voltage you have it set at and the ohms of the delivery system. Check out Ohm's law. AW are supposed to be great batteries, I am running efest batteries and they work good for me, just make sure you use IMR's. It is not recommended that you leave batteries on the charger once charged, I have done it for short periods without any problems.

 

[69superbee]

I am running a dual coil 1.5 ohm at 8 watts on a VAMO and have no problems with. In fact I normally leave the VAMO set at 8 watts for just about everything. I don't know why your DCT tank is acting like that, but a few things that others might want to know.

1. What is the pg/vg mixture you are running, and are you using the same juice in your other delivery systems?
2. How many holes are in the carto in your tank? VG is thicker and may need more or bigger holes.
3. Have you tried a different carto or juice in your tank, and if so what happens?
4. Is your tank on all the way, I only ask this because I have the ring that covers ego threads, works great with the ego style battery,
but if I try to use it with the VAMO it does not allow the tank to screw down enough to make contact and I get nothing.
5. Did you fill the carto as well as the tank, if not have you allowed the carto to soak in the tank, a dry carto will taste and hit bad.
6. Did you try the tank on another device? A 510 carto will fit the Blu if you have nothing else to test it on.

As for VW the device will set the voltage based on the ohms of the delivery system and the watts you have the device set at. VV the watts will vary depending on the voltage you have it set at and the ohms of the delivery system. Check out Ohm's law. AW are supposed to be great batteries, I am running efest batteries and they work good for me, just make sure you use IMR's. It is not recommended that you leave batteries on the charger once charged, I have done it for short periods without any problems.

1. They dont say so I would guess 50/50, and yes
2. 1 hole
3. No
4. Yes of course or it would not even work.
5. Yes, looked at multiple ways of making sure carto is not dry when you set it up and found one that worked great.
6. Don't have to, I think you may be a little confused possibly because of my ramblings. There is 3 that I was talking about.
A. Clearomizer 2.8 Ohm - Works great @ 6.5 watts
B. 6ml DCT 1.5 Ohm - Works great @ 11+ watts
C. 2ml Vivi Nova 2.4 Ohm - Works just fine but @ 7+ watts it tastes burnt, anything below it tastes just fine, but not as much vapor as I would like.

I would have thought with the lower Ohm of the Vivi I would have been cranking it up instead of down by what my 1.5 Ohm needed as opposed to my 2.8 clearo, so I was a little confused. I dont know if its the matter the 1.5 is actually 3 Ohm doubled or the fact it just takes more because it is dual coil instead of single.

And Silent, thanks for your idea. I did try to switch to VV mode but 4.2v still made it taste burnt.

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi 69Superbee. First, Welcome to the ECF.

So On your and other VW mods, this is how they work(in a nutshell) VW does a little of the heavy lifting for you, you set the device for the liquid/performance you like and they calculate the appropriate voltage to feed that specific device, based on that device's ohm load....... So in short, pick one to adjust and leave it there unless you just want to tinker.

On the dual coil cartos you have hit the head on the nail...... They are to be treated as two three ohm coils, and should have the voltage or wattage set normally to (somwhere near) double what it would be on a single coil. If you like 6watts on a single coil 3ohm carto then you need to produce twice that to supply two coils with that wattage. This is from the two coils being paralell with each other, so they share the supplied voltage as a system, dividing that supplied voltage in half among the pair. The advantage of two coils is twice the heating element surface in contact with the liquid. The downside of this arrangement is that it is a large load to the device supplying the power.

In reference to the batteries question, Yes AW does offer very nice batteries, I personally have a few pair of them. I do recommend them. Also I have heard stellar reviews of the Panasonic CGR series 18650s as well, but I dont use that size although I just might pick up a few just to give them a try.

As far as chargers, yes they do make better chargers, and yes if you plan on being a well equipped Vaper, then you should know about them as well. The first is the Pila charger like this Best Rechargeable Battery Chargers: Pila Battery Charger & Pila Charger and the second is the Xtar wpii like this Xtar SP2 battery charger for Li-ion 18650 14500 26650 batteries Both of these are well respected chargers that read the state of discharge and charge them accordingly. They also(from what I understand) hold charge state at the end of the charge and do not over charge the cells. So no force-feeding once the battery has reached full charge.

As far as the "right way" to setup your system, there isn't one. It does take a little time, practice and patience to get your unit working just right for your personal prerences. To top it all off those current prefrences may(and likely will) change in the future. At least you have a unit that can accommodate those changing tastes. You are off to a great start, enjoy the journey.Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

 

[69superbee]

Thank you for confirming what I was thinking from my experiences thus far. I just needed to know I was heading in the right direction with the equipment I am using from someone that knows more than I. And thanks for the links to battery chargers as well, I think I will get my meter out and start checking what my batteries are when they come out and if I see they are different after a few times then that will also be my next investment along with some AW IMR's.