New Memeber and New Analog Free Vapor, Itaste 134 Question

[catalinaflyer]

Not my first post but to make a long story short, I got an e-cig a couple months back to keep from smoking in my new semi truck. Well it only took 2 days and without trying I was completely analog free having been a 1.5 to 2 pad smoker for the past 25+ years.

Anyway I have gone through the usual steps and am currently using the Itaste 134. Last week I switched from tanks to an Octopus RDA. I took the leap today and built my first coil and well it worked, made something that looked a little like vapor, tasted like crap and burned the heck out of my throat. I made a few more attempts (spent the day watching video's) and finally got a working coil that tastes somewhat like the original but needing more drops every few hits. I made those first coils with 28ga Kanthal and 3mm Ekowool. I went back to the local shop here where I'm parked and grabbed some more 28ga and this time got 2mm wire which is where I'm at now. It's working.

However while there and after seeing 100's of YouTube videos today with dual coil RDA's I purchased an Igo-w on my second trip today. Built a pair of beautiful 10 wrap micro coils which are showing about 1.8 ohms on my fluke meter. Now the problem, my Itaste 134 won't fire with both coils attached. One or the other and it fires perfectly but hooking up both and nothing. I'm assuming my resistance is too low for the 134. I'm going back to the shop when they open and pick up a mechanical mod and see if that's the issue.

Am I headed down the right road with the dual coil and mechanical mod or am I missing something with my 134??

 

[onjre]

I just got a 134 and I'm also wondering what the lowest resistance is for this thing. My vamo cuts off at 1.2 ohms and I know a 1.3 ohm coil fires on the 134 so I suspect it should fire your 1.8 ohm. However, dual 28 guage for 10 wraps sounds lower than 1.8 ohms. Make sure you subtract the resistance of the leads on your meter when you measure.

 

[Gcoder]

I don't have a 134 but your question has grabbed my attention, as I am thinking about getting into rebuildables myself. From what I have read up on the topic is the 1.8 ohms on each coil or combination of both coils?

If 1.8 is per coil running them in parallel would result in total of .9 ohms which I am guessing is to low for the 134 to fire.

Easy solution for now would be to run a single coil until you get a mechanical and vape on.

 

[Dakota Jim]

When you do dual coils they are in parallel so the resistance is 1/2 of what the single is, so if the coils are 1.8 ohms individually by putting them in parallel your 134 see's a single coil that is .9 ohms - to fix this you just need to build 2.6 ohm or larger coils (I would recommend 3+ ohms)- the regulator in the 134 probably will not let it fire if resistance is below 1.3 ohms - this is safety issue due to most batteries cannot handle the amp draw sub ohms require

see baditude's blog here in the ecf for more accurate info on this subject before you get into mech's (hate to have the wrong battery vent while you are driving in heavy traffic)

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

 

[timotheus]

.9 ohms is good. I own two 134s and they blow huge clouds at 6.5
...my attys are both Ithaka RBAs with dual highlander setups firing at .9 ohms.

 

[timotheus]

sub-ohm recommendations for the iTaste 134 are .7 - .9 is good good (.6 is no good good)...this is the real world talking. Believe how you do.

 

[timotheus]

the center pin connection however, you should check it again. The 510 connectors on the 134 are low quality and it takes a bit of tweaking to get them to connect right. As I said before I own two and they are both a bit temperamental at the pin.

 

[catalinaflyer]

Wow, I see this thread of mine pop back up and although it was just a couple months ago when I posted it seems like almost a lifetime in Vaping. I still have the 134 and have used is down at .8 ohms many MANY times without any problems. In fact just tonight I got my Igo-W out to take pictures of a .80 ohm dual coil setup that's currently in it for another member who had a question.

I can't stress enough how important it is to get something to check coil resistance BEFORE firing it. I'm lucky that I had a multi-meter already and never had a problem but I now have 2 dedicated ohm meters just for coils (atomizers).

 

[onjre]

So what is the lowest ohm coil that it will fire? I've fired up a couple on it without ohming but they came out to about 1.3 each time.

 

[onjre]

... When I did ohm them that is.

 

[catalinaflyer]

sub-ohm recommendations for the iTaste 134 are .7 - .9 is good good (.6 is no good good)...this is the real world talking. Believe how you do.

I don't believe the 134 will go below .80 (or at least mine won't) - real world talking - see below

So what is the lowest ohm coil that it will fire? I've fired up a couple on it without ohming but they came out to about 1.3 each time.

.80 is as low as I have taken mine, anything below that it doesn't fire.

FWIW, I no longer use it for anything below 1.8 anyway, I have collected a dozen or more mechanicals in the past couple months and use them for sub-ohm and keep my VV/VW's for tank duty.

.71 Ohm and no fire-

.90 Ohm-

And .90 Ohm firing-

Sorry for the picture quality, I'm shooting low light with no flash and no tripod.

 

[onjre]

I don't believe the 134 will go below .80 (or at least mine won't) - real world talking - see below



.80 is as low as I have taken mine, anything below that it doesn't fire.

FWIW, I no longer use it for anything below 1.8 anyway, I have collected a dozen or more mechanicals in the past couple months and use them for sub-ohm and keep my VV/VW's for tank duty.

.71 Ohm and no fire-

.90 Ohm-

And .90 Ohm firing-

Sorry for the picture quality, I'm shooting low light with no flash and no tripod.

Oh that's awesome. I'm going to start building some lower res coils on this bad boy. I've always been keeping it up over 1.2 ohms.

 

[Tennett91]

I just got a 134 and I'm also wondering what the lowest resistance is for this thing. My vamo cuts off at 1.2 ohms and I know a 1.3 ohm coil fires on the 134 so I suspect it should fire your 1.8 ohm. However, dual 28 guage for 10 wraps sounds lower than 1.8 ohms. Make sure you subtract the resistance of the leads on your meter when you measure.

i just built a .86 ohm single coil on my kayfun lite plus (ran out of kanthal so it was the highest i could go)..and it fires on my 134 mini. would not fire at .8 ohm though.

 

[ironmunky]

hate to beat a dead horse, but does the 134 fire with a .8 ohm coil? Kanger is now making .8 ohm replacement coils and I'm not really into the diy stuff. Just hoping someone else has used the .8 ohm Kanger coils on the 134 and have them work 100% of the time before I buy a Kanger tank.

 

[Bunnykiller]

the 134 is only capable of 12.5W and I believe 5 A, it just doesnt have the power to fire of low ohm ( 1.0 ish) dual set ups well. A mech will be needed to do that range ( especially 28 ga. and lower) The 134 is designed to do 1.5-2.2 singles at 30 -28 ga. asking a 134 to fire off dual 28s is like trying to pull an 18 wheeler trailer with a mo-ped up a hill...
when ever you do duals, the energy requirement double....

 

[onjre]

I gotta agree with bunnykiller here. The 134 is pretty but really kinda wimpy. It's only variable wattage (not voltage) so you're only going to be able to vape at 12.5 watts or less no matter what coil you put on it. Dropping the resistance in that case doesn’t really help anything. Usually (on a mech) dropping the resistance increases the wattage because the voltage is set by the battery. Get yourself a mech and put that 0.8 ohm coil on it and you'll be running at 22 watts almost double what the 134 puts out.

 

[ironmunky]

I just got my Kanger Aerotank Mega today, as well as the .8 ohm replacement atomizers. In case anyone here is wondering, the .8 ohm atomizers works quite well on the 134, and the Kanger Mega looks absolutely wonderful on it. Right now I have the 134 maxed out at 12.5 watts and the flavor is great, much better than my old 1.6 ohm Aspire Nautilus. This will be my everyday set-up for the next few weeks till I get the Sigelei 100 watt monster. Once it comes I'll probably only break out the 134 for nerd conventions, telling people it's a sonic screwdriver or a light sabre is just too much fun.

Just put the .8 ohm Kanger on my Stingray clone, bad idea. Did you ever roll a piece of paper up and try to smoke it as a kid? Yeah, it was that bad.