New Over Here

[Luma]

So cut me some slack...

Wanting to go from my V4L batts to a Precise mod. Now here are the newb questions.

I am looking for the longest battery life with the most vapor production. What are your average battery usage times between different types of batteries? I have no idea how these work. I would also like to use cartomizers cuz I like the one piece design and dont like atty type systems so not sure which connection I should use. I would love something to pour out vapor for 4+ hours. How often do you need to drip? I'm dry on my VK 5v passthrough at around 30 drags on the "cool carts".

Really have my eye on the 16340 due to the smaller size. I just want to be able to go out and about for awhile, "4+ hours", and not need to carry a bunch of extra batts or need to go back to my car to change them out!

What direction should I go in?

 

[pAth77]

If you're looking for at least 4 hours of battery life, then the P16 is the smallest that you should go with. I'm sure that most people here will agree that the P16 is the best all-around Precise because of it's compact size and its great battery life. I'm getting a good 5 hours out of the AW IMR 16340s (550mah) and around 7 hours from the AW protected batts (750mah)....I consider myself a moderate vaper. The P18 is a good deal larger, but the battery life is considerably longer. My P18 is on the way so I don't know exact times, but you can get 18650 batts with a capacity of 1600mah to as high as 2900mah. I'm guessing that it's probably at least 2 days worth of vaping.

All the Precises are 510 threaded. IMO, you can't go wrong with Boge LR cartos. I recommend getting them from PureSmokers because they carry them with the steel finish (no black wrapper) and at a reasonable price. You could also use the SmokeTech dual coil cartos. I haven't tried them yet, but I've heard that they're good.

 

[Luma]

If you go with a larger "mah" do you sacrifice vapor production?

 

[atavanhalen]

If you go with a larger "mah" do you sacrifice vapor production?

Thats kind of a tricky question, if you go with an imr/high drain then you will get an overall higher voltage throughout the charge of the battery, they will stay at 4volts for a lot longer than a regular protected one. The 2900mah protected aw 18650(p18) will last almost twice as long as the 18650imr 1600mah but will not run at as high of a voltage. Same goes for the p16 but with the 16340 battery the jump is only 40percent longer(550imr 750 protected) I personally like the imr batteries because of the extended full battery vape but it depends on what you are looking for, do you want longer batt life or higher voltage/throat hit ect. As far as how long you will get out of a carto is pretty subjective, If you get thirty drags on a 5v passthrough then in theory you should get more than that at 3.7-4.2volts but this all depends on your vaping style, juice your using, how long of drags you take ect... I have been using the dual coil cartos on my p16 with a high drain /imr battery and am pretty satisfied with that, the mega dual coil cartos hold a lot of liquid roughly 50 drops or more and I have a hard time burning them and that is what I hated about other cartos I have tried.(you do need to keep them topped off to keep the top wet though) They are longer than a traditional carto but the trade off is worth it to me. If you are happy with 4-8hours go with the p16 or if you want longer life and the ability to go high voltage then go with the p18. I have had both and I liked them both but I like the size of the 16 although I am kicking myself for selling the 18. Hope I did not confuse you even more and I hope this helps.

 

[pAth77]

If you go with a larger "mah" do you sacrifice vapor production?

+1 to what atavanhalen already said.

Vapor production is dependent on a few things. More wattage means more vapor. Watts are a function of resistance and voltage (P = V²/R). The higher the voltage, the higher the wattage. This is the part the ata was talking about with regards to the batteries. IMRs will be able to sustain the higher voltage over the duration of the charge, but you sacrifice battery capacity (mah). Resistance relates to the atty/carto. The lower the resistance, the higher the wattage. Lastly, vapor depends on the mixture of your juice. Higher VG content produces more vapor, but when compared to PG will hold less flavor and have less throat hit.

 

[Cari]

P16 was my choice when moving from the VK to a mod. I was afraid it would be too large, but it is much, much smaller than you can imagine. I bought both the IMRs and AWs and really prefer the AWs if I'm going out because of the longer battery life. I've had problems with adapters so I changed to the dual coil 510s, or just Boge 510 cartos instead of the cool carts I was accustomed to (since the Precise only comes 510), and I have better throat hit and vapor than I ever got with the VK.

Good luck with your choice! The only problem I have now is I have 15 VK batteries and 40 empty cool carts sitting in the drawer that I'm afraid will never get used. lol.

 

[atavanhalen]

that was much more compact and eloquent then the way I put it, thanks path.

+1 to what atavanhalen already said.

Vapor production is dependent on a few things. More wattage means more vapor. Watts are a function of resistance and voltage (P = V²/R). The higher the voltage, the higher the wattage. This is the part the ata was talking about with regards to the batteries. IMRs will be able to sustain the higher voltage over the duration of the charge, but you sacrifice battery capacity (mah). Resistance relates to the atty/carto. The lower the resistance, the higher the wattage. Lastly, vapor depends on the mixture of your juice. Higher VG content produces more vapor, but when compared to PG will hold less flavor and have less throat hit.

 

[atavanhalen]

P16 was my choice when moving from the VK to a mod. I was afraid it would be too large, but it is much, much smaller than you can imagine. I bought both the IMRs and AWs and really prefer the AWs if I'm going out because of the longer battery life. I've had problems with adapters so I changed to the dual coil 510s, or just Boge 510 cartos instead of the cool carts I was accustomed to (since the Precise only comes 510), and I have better throat hit and vapor than I ever got with the VK.

Good luck with your choice! The only problem I have now is I have 15 VK batteries and 40 empty cool carts sitting in the drawer that I'm afraid will never get used. lol.

When you mention imr are you talking about a different brand high drain than AW because the imr's that David sells for the p16 are also AW?

 

[Luma]

Gotacha guys. Thanks for the help. I still love my VK's but I need a mod lol. Have no problem going with the stainless steel Boge cart and this "dual coil" looks interesting!

Cant wait to get vaping on that cold, heavy, stainless steel P16.

 

[forcedfuel50]

Weclome Luma! I don't hide my affection for the P16, to me, it's size is perfect. Not to big, not too small

 

[Vaporologist]

Gotacha guys. Thanks for the help. I still love my VK's but I need a mod lol. Have no problem going with the stainless steel Boge cart and this "dual coil" looks interesting!

Cant wait to get vaping on that cold, heavy, stainless steel P16.

Ahhh, you have no idea how good it looks. It even looks better than your golf swing, if you can believe that...

 

[Luma]

Ahhh, you have no idea how good it looks. It even looks better than your golf swing, if you can believe that...

Oh I can believe that... LOL. Although the button on the bottom turned me off originally, I think it's actually a bit classier know that I have been thinking about it.

I cant wait. Then when I order, I'm gonna have to wait more!

 

[dormouse]

With a normal resistance atomizer or cartomizer (normal resistance relative to the battery voltage) people say 100mah is about an hour of moderate vaping. Lower resistance attys or cartos will lower that, and very low resistance ones will lower it a lot. Low resistance attachments vape hotter and use more battery charge.

I think Riva and Ego go up to 1300mah in their biggest batteries.