New Registered Supplier -Star Mountain Vapor-

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MrBoss

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Hello All,

We are new to the ECF and would like your feedback, looking at these threads it seems like giveaways are the way to go. What do you want in a giveaway? What is likely to get you to checkout our website? Any Feedback would be appreciated and look out for us to do some contests soon!

Thank You:):vapor::confused:
 

bellastarr

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Hi and welcome to ECF! I checked out your site and really like it. Nicely laid out and easy to navigate.

Contest wise, I would say choosing multiple winners is a plus. I think more people enter that way because they have a better chance at winning.

Anyway, Welcome and I look forward to seeing what you come up with. We love contests here :)
 

Celestiiaa

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Hello there and I welcome you as well! :)

Personally, what I like in a contest is;
1. Brevity -long running contests tend to lose me :(
2. Interaction between everyone but most importantly between the supplier and members because it is good to get to know people and I have found that when I get to know a supplier I want them to succeed so I will order their products even if just samples at first:)
3. Fairness- I like when everyone has an equal opportunity for entries, even if it's per day, because, due to family and work, I don't have time to post this picture or that quote every 5 mins. :p

Just my opinion and I'm stickin' to it! hehe

I can't wait to see what you come up with and look forward to browsing your site some more!
 

CountBoredom

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I'd echo what Celestiiaa said with regard to fairness. Some vendors manage to keep their contests at the top by allowing unlimited posting, thus generating more frequent posts and keeping their thread at the top. But if the prize is generous enough, the rules are simple enough, or the contest is interesting enough, people will still participate throughout the day. When I say "interest." I mean you have a strong, popular theme or the contest generates interaction between contestants, which keeps them coming back. Limiting the number of posts per day (and no back-to-back posts) force people to return throughout the day while ensuring that no one contestant is going to get an edge by spamming the thread.

With regards to brevity, the duration of a contest is often (but not always) tied to the value of the prize. Obviously, a generous prize cannot have multiple winners, but it will keep people playing longer than, say, a single bottle of juice. Often there is a big rush at the beginning of a contest which then begins to taper down to fewer participants as the days (or weeks) drag on.

One last thing: if you plan on changing themes (say, favorite movies for one week, favorite songs another, etc), it's also helpful for new players to join when each contest is contained in a separate thread--in other words, close the first contest thread and begin a new one. This serves two purposes: first, it's easy to figure out what you should be doing to participate; and, second, new threads/contests become more noticeable when they are begun because they are new.

Welcome to ECF! It's always good to have another vendor in the ECF fold.
 

roosterado

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I checked out You website IMO your prices are 2 high. I placed orders with 4 online Venders last week-Vapor Beast-Smoke Evolution-Got Vapes and And ECigCity. I purchased Kanker Unitank and UniTank mini for about 50% of your prices. I purchased a Natilus tank for $27 at ECigCity vs your $45 price. I think you need to try harder.
 

MrBoss

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Thank you for your feedback. We have worked really hard on that website, so thanks for the compliment as well.So,
#1 Multiple Winners
#2 Brevity(taught me a new word).
#3 Fairness
#4 Interaction
#5 Simplicity

Seems like a good start.

This is the first thread we ever posted on ecf so the feedback and participation is very encouraging, thank you.

Our prices are something that I have wrestled with for awhile now regarding the online site. Star Mountain Vapor is a B&M shop in El Paso, TX. In order to pay rent, insurance, employees etc..prices tend to be a little higher then an online retailer who typically has lower overhead.Currently my prices are the same online as in the store with the exception of online specials(typically 2 for 1 Liquids and such) What we do have is free shipping on any order over $30. Maybe I'll work on a coupon code or something for ecf members. We are always open to trying to be better.:)
 
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Celestiiaa

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A lot of suppliers will have you number your entries, or date and number your posts. Some limit it to 2 entries per day (I would find this easier to police myself since its much easier to keep track of 2 or 3 entries per person per day rather than 20)
ex:
9/23
#1

9/23
#2

etcetera...

Makes it a little easier for you to see what is actually an entry and what is just conversation too. Hope that helps. :)
 

CountBoredom

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Also, if you limit it to a certain number per day and run the contest for x many days, you'll also be able to easily spot non-compliant posts because the numbers will be off if you run some basic aggregate testing on the entries. For example, just looking at who's posted in this thread, I can see that MrBoss has more posts than other posters (the next highest is Celestiiaa--this post doesn't count because I'm still writing it). If the rules limited the number of entries, say, to 1 per person, you'd know that MrBoss and Celestiiaa had posted beyond their allowed number.

Sometimes the extra posts are necessary for clarifying the rules or something, sometimes they are chit-chat between contestants (and sometimes chit-chat posts are labelled as such). I suppose there are some contests in which the vendor doesn't care if the randomly-selected winning post is a correct entry, but I think most vendors will generally check a randomly-selected post to make sure it adheres to the general rules (numbered correctly, posts the proper theme, etc.) and re-select if they pick something that doesn't match.

As far as enforcement, most of it is on the honor system, as best as I can tell. Often, other contestants will point out bad entries either directly (hey, you've already posted five times today!) or indirectly (The rules said we can only post twice per day. Have they changed?)--either way, the offending poster usually rescinds their entry. I've seen cases in which contestants will point out that the winning post did not adhere to the rules, but for the most part, people pretty much accept the chosen winner(s) if people appear to be playing by the rules.
 

MrBoss

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Right on. I think we got it.

One week time frame
Multiple winners(2)
Interesting subject(preferably interactive)
Limited to 3 entries per day(self numbered)
Honor System on the entries, verified upon being drawn a winner
Winner chosen by Random.org based upon post #
3 or 5 10ml bottles of e liquid awarded to 2 winners?(is this enticing)

Am I missing anything?

I cant thank you guys enough, 3 days ago I didn't even know where to start:toast:
 

JoanJ

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Right on. I think we got it.

One week time frame
Multiple winners(2)
Interesting subject(preferably interactive)
Limited to 3 entries per day(self numbered)
Honor System on the entries, verified upon being drawn a winner
Winner chosen by Random.org based upon post #
3 or 5 10ml bottles of e liquid awarded to 2 winners?(is this enticing)

Am I missing anything?

I cant thank you guys enough, 3 days ago I didn't even know where to start:toast:

if 5 10 ml bottles for 2 people... I would rather see 3 10 ml bottles and 3 winners. That is still one bottle less than giving 2 people 5 bottles each. It gets your product to 3 winners instead of 2 that way. It also makes people feel they have a better chance of winning.
 

liblue1

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Welcome to ECF...like others I agree the prices are high for an online seller....but I understand why....also the PG/VG ratio is important & I didn't find it listed.....

When I try to follow your link I click the thumbs up 18 and over and am sent here?

ThemeFusion | ThemeForest

I'd say something's not right somewhere.

you have to hit the ..........18+(enter) .....below the thumb...
 

twgbonehead

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When I try to follow your link I click the thumbs up 18 and over and am sent here?

ThemeFusion | ThemeForest

I'd say something's not right somewhere.

I'm having the same problem (and yes, I did click the "over 18").

First of all, thanks for supporting ECF! Always good to see new vendors!

While many people like contests, what I look for are money-savers. Sales, free-shipping offers, discount codes, etc.

Also for e-liquids, throwing in a sample of something other flavor is always a nice surprise. If you do this, however, you should try to match the liquids ordered with regard to nicotine content (and PG/VG ratio, particularly if they order 100% of either).

And please package e-liquids carefully - you will upset people very quickly if they're getting leaky bottles in nicotine-soaked packages.

Good luck!

ETA: About the re-direction:

If you click on the thumbs-up or the "18" you get sent to theme forest.
Only if you click on the "18+ enter" at the very bottom do you get to the site.
Kind of confusing.... Particularly since the thumbs-up target is very large.
 
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