New Setup - Advice

[fibberwibber]

Hi All,

So I currently just own basic vaping gear such as MVP v2, multiple mini protank 2's, and some basic ego batteries. I've heard of drippers SSRT, mods, etc. I'm not really familiar with how any of these work. Can you help out a newer vaper with some good recommendations on an upgrade I can have fun with. Looking to spend maybe $50 or under? Not sure if that is possible.

Thanks for the help in advance

 

[DasBluCig]

Many, like myself, find dripping maximizes flavor and often vapor production....
The IGO-L RDA is simple, inexpensive (~$10-$12) and will stand the test of time....
Learn to wind coils....TONS of "how-to" videos on this....a single micro coil in the -L will get you started down a whole new (better..??) path of vaping!! Kanthal A1 wire (30-3ga.) is cheap - $6 or so for 100' spool from Temco....wind your coils on a drill bit or blunt needle and DON'T SUB-OHM with the MVP2!! A 9-10 wrap of 30ga. around a 1/16" drill bit will yield ~2.0-2.2 ohms....USE the ohm reader on your MVP2....or get a dedicated ohm reader or multimeter.....MUST-HAVEs for coil building!!
Cotton for wicking is, IMO, the easiest way to go....Organic cotton balls from CVS and Peaches & Cream yarn from Wal-Mart will set you back ~$5 -- and last about a LIFETIME!!
"Deep-steeped" Frenilla -- dripped in my -L with a 1.3 ohm micro coil on my MVP2...is pure vaping Utopia!!
Good luck!
Happy (vaping) Trails!

 

[keithu2]

I don't like to make assumptions, but I take it that you asking for advice on a new setup to better enjoy your NT juices.

There is nothing "wrong" with the setup you have now. It is understandable to be curious about all the devices many of us talk about. Most, if not all, of us started with something similar.

Do you have any rebuilding experience? If you haven't started, rebuilding your protanks is a good place to start. Micro coils with cotton wicks will be an noticeable improvement over the stock heads. All you would need is some 30 gauge wire, a 1/16 drill bit, and some basic tools. Your mvp can be used to check the resistance of your builds.
Once you get the micro coils, you may want to venture into rda's/drippers or other toppers. You have a regulated mod, but should still read up on battery safety. The Rebuildable threads and Youtube will give you more information and details.




et al - what he said

 

[DasBluCig]

Beat ya by 2 minutes, Keith...!!
OTOH.....reinforcement is often a GOOD thing....!
Happy (vaping) Trails!

 

[oplholik]

I get my wire from here, and I get the annealed wire. You don't have to torch this to reduce the springiness, making it much easier to work with.

Resistance Wire

 

[Kevin33]

I would definitely work at rebuilding the PT 2. You can just follow someone else's build. It's a little bit trickier than an RBA, but by the time yours comes in the mail, you will hit the ground running.

Be sure not to dry burn the coils too much to squeeze them together, they have a rubber gasket that can scorch. You can just do it with a lighter or torch before you install it.

 

[Kent Brooks]

The above is good advice - probably the exact same advice I might have given. The most economical way to get into rebuilding is to learn how to build the hardware you already have and reduce your dependance on cheap, inconstant, factory-made heads/coils. The next logical step is an affordable dripper like the Igo-L or the Igo-W... once you get the Protank down, an Igo-L or W is easy (comparatively speaking). Aside from the cost savings associated with utilizing hardware you already possess, you'll thank yourself for taking the intermediary step and learning to build the Protanks... as much as I enjoy drippers, most people only use them when they are at home/work (if vaping is allowed at work), etc. Don't drip and drive - those rebuilt Protanks will come in handy until you get the Kayfun bug, or other Rebuiltable Tank Atomizers (RTA's) of the same ilk. I can't say genesis devices are "bad" (I love my RSST) - and it's certainly affordable - but the Kayfun (IMHO) has made Genesis style atmoizers somewhat obsolete since the Kayfun devices are so easy to build, flavor is generally better, and they are alot less "fiddly." As soon as I say that, someone who is a diehard Genesis style atomizer fan will come through and disagree - and that's fine - keep in mind... there is no definitive answer. "Getting peak performance from Nicoticket eliquid" really is a synergy between the liquid I make, the device you are holding, and you. If all three stars align, I can virtually guarantee any passing thoughts of analogs will vanish.

 

[Kent Brooks]

Also, as an added bonus - as your personal network of local vapers grow, it's inevitable that you will meet someone with a Protank (because they are so popular with newer vapers). It's a great ice-breaker to say "hey, lets meet up and I'll teach you how to rebuild that thing and get great flavor." All it costs you is a little bit of wire and some time with a new friend - and you usually get a 6 pack in return. Good investment.

 

[taki1203]

The above is good advice - probably the exact same advice I might have given. The most economical way to get into rebuilding is to learn how to build the hardware you already have and reduce your dependance on cheap, inconstant, factory-made heads/coils. The next logical step is an affordable dripper like the Igo-L or the Igo-W... once you get the Protank down, an Igo-L or W is easy (comparatively speaking). Aside from the cost savings associated with utilizing hardware you already possess, you'll thank yourself for taking the intermediary step and learning to build the Protanks... as much as I enjoy drippers, most people only use them when they are at home/work (if vaping is allowed at work), etc. Don't drip and drive - those rebuilt Protanks will come in handy until you get the Kayfun bug, or other Rebuiltable Tank Atomizers (RTA's) of the same ilk. I can't say genesis devices are "bad" (I love my RSST) - and it's certainly affordable - but the Kayfun (IMHO) has made Genesis style atmoizers somewhat obsolete since the Kayfun devices are so easy to build, flavor is generally better, and they are alot less "fiddly." As soon as I say that, someone who is a diehard Genesis style atomizer fan will come through and disagree - and that's fine - keep in mind... there is no definitive answer. "Getting peak performance from Nicoticket eliquid" really is a synergy between the liquid I make, the device you are holding, and you. If all three stars align, I can virtually guarantee any passing thoughts of analogs will vanish.

And then Keith and I will come along and tell him he needs a Reo .

OP, I started with an MVP too. If you get into coil making feel free to drop by the Rebuildables sub. Tons and tons of information.
Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[keithu2]

And then Keith and I will come along and tell him he needs a Reo .

OP, I started with an MVP too. If you get into coil making feel free to drop by the Rebuildables sub. Tons and tons of information.
Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

LOL

I was going to wait until he got at least one pt rebuild under his belt and asks what could be better.

 

[Kent Brooks]

LOL

I was going to wait until he got at least one pt rebuild under his belt and asks what could be better.

And then Keith and I will come along and tell him he needs a Reo .

OP, I started with an MVP too. If you get into coil making feel free to drop by the Rebuildables sub. Tons and tons of information.
Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

I'm looking forward to keith saying "silver vein" repeatedly.

 

[DaBucs]

Yup good advise here so far...my current gear is a MVPv2, Vision Spinner, 5 Aspire ET-S's and PT2... I just started rebuilding my PT heads...done about 4 so far ...latest one seems to be the best one so far and is running strong...I did that using 9 wraps with 30ga wire...meter says 1.95 and the MVP reads it at 1.8...right where I want. I haven't bent to the enablers yet for any of the rebuildable stuff
at least not till im confident in my PT coil rebuilds anyway

 

[fibberwibber]

Thanks for the advice everyone I'm gonna see if my brother will help me practicing building my protank coils to start then once I master that I'll gradually start asking more questions about dripping advice.

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[keithu2]

Yup good advise here so far...my current gear is a MVPv2, Vision Spinner, 5 Aspire ET-S's and PT2... I just started rebuilding my PT heads...done about 4 so far ...latest one seems to be the best one so far and is running strong...I did that using 9 wraps with 30ga wire...meter says 1.95 and the MVP reads it at 1.8...right where I want. I haven't bent to the enablers yet for any of the rebuildable stuff
at least not till im confident in my PT coil rebuilds anyway

If you can make a coil that can fit in a PT, you're ready for an IGO' of some sort. Way more room and you don't have to deal with the grommet and the chimney thing. . . .

 

[revco]

If you can make a coil that can fit in a PT, you're ready for an IGO' of some sort. Way more room and you don't have to deal with the grommet and the chimney thing. . . .

I do RDA's, RBA's (Kayfun and Genesis style) and rebuild my Kangers and I'd 110% agree with this statement. It's actually a LOT easier to do a coil on an RDA than it is the Kangers, by a long shot. There's a few reasons for this. There's more room to work with, you can wrap around something then put your wick through (as opposed to wrapping around the limp wick) and then to install, you just unscrew/screw the wire holders. I started with Kanger's though...probably for the same reasons others "fear" the real coils...but in hindsight, there was no justification for it. Kangers are easy once you get the hang of it, but there's still a bit more work that goes into them. Still, I find it valuable to be capable of doing both.

I do recommend either an IGO-L or IGO-W as an entry level RDA to practice on, like others mentioned. (A Trident would be another good entry level choice, IMO, it has nicer coil connectors and more air control features.) Definitely use a mod (like an MVP, Lavatube, etc...not a mech) at first, so you get the safety features found within. If you do this, it's pretty much safe as could be...any shorts or issues with the coil will be detected and the RDA will not fire. (The safety issue comes from unfused/unregulated mechs and poorly built coils and/or improper batteries.) Anyway, I don't want to push you that way...but it does bring NT's juices to a whole new level over the Kanger stuff.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

 

[DaBucs]

Damn you Keithu2 and revco....I just ordered an igo-w from 101 vapes...i've bent but not broken yet

 

[keithu2]

Damn you Keithu2 and revco....I just ordered an igo-w from 101 vapes...i've bent but not broken yet

Just doing our job. . . .

 

[revco]

Right on! Another convert! You won't regret it!

Just another tip or two DaBucs? Go on down to Michaels (the girl store) and pick up some Sugar and Cream cotton yarn, #4, for $1.99. Boil a good amount of length (don't do the whole skein at once) a couple times for 10 minutes a piece. Then dry it out and use that as your wick. I started doing that a few weeks ago and wondered why I was ever screwing around with regular cotton balls. It makes wicking/rewicking a breeze. Oh, and one last tip? Learn how to do twisted Kanthal. It's easy...a drill, an allen key and about 3' of 32 or 30 gauge Kanthal will give you a fantastic quality coil...it lasts a lot longer and it's less prone to breaking on install.

 

[taki1203]

Damn you Keithu2 and revco....I just ordered an igo-w from 101 vapes...i've bent but not broken yet

Just doing our job. . . .

So the plan is working. 1) Fall in love with dripping. 2) Get annoyed with all other tank systems cause they are finicky. 3) Give up and buy a Reo

 

[CalamityJess]

Ya know, in a few months (ugh) when my budget is balanced again, it is ALMOST tempting, with every thread I see this in. But I really don't want to drip. I want the best of BOTH worlds. I want the flavor of dripping but with a tank to feed the wicks, and the space to work in. AND i want it affordable. So...there, there's my problem...lol.