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Im new to dripping too. I got an Igo L that a fellow vapor kindly gave me. I like it alot but wanted to upgrade so I got a magma clone by infinite. It's not here yet so I can't tell you my thoughts on it but it has great reviews. I chose it because of the adjustable air flow and supposed better flavor. My second option was the plume veil but I didnt get that one.
Id go with the mutation x v3. Comes with both the super wide bore cap and the 510 drip adapter. Easy posts to build on, nice juice well, wide range on airflow options so you can try different builds/airflow/tops and find what you like. Not stuck with that one top with the doge, dont worry about bottom holes on the plumeveil. Authentic is reasonaly priced
I just picked up the Doge V2 yesterday from my local B&M. My oh my, the flavor is amazing. I like the large top and juice wells allow more draws without fussing with drips. Excuse me if I didn't use the proper nomenclature as I am a novice as far as dripping. I told the helpful folks at the B&M that I wanted a dripper that gives the best flavor and a mod to go with it. I walked out with the Doge V2 and a vanilla SS for it to sit on. I'm in love!!!
There are so many out there. I would suggest one with a positive block, it will make it easier to build on.
Plume veil is ok but the barrel doesnt have lip on it so it will slide down too far and the cap will pop off.
Doge is good with a chuff, the inner barrel is too big and limits u on build space, but then there goes the air flow options
I would go with mutation v3, or a troll, they have positive blocks.
The el cabron is good it is a standard 3 post but it has massive post holes and a single coil option.
Comes with 2 chuffs one massive stainless, a Delrin, and a 510 adapter.
The new twisted messes is just like the cabron but has a positive block.
I would suggest going to a brick and mortar and look at what they got, and talk to
them. While your there look around and see what other people are using and talk to them.
Chances are, if your local shop is like mine, someone has tried the rda your looking for.
If you get a clone tobbeco does a good job on them (for now). Just don't break the bank on
a rda save that extra money and get a ohm reader and good batteries.
Go to a few shops, some are chains and the guy behind the counter might not have a clue.
Check there web site or facebook and see what people say.
Plume veil is ok but the barrel doesnt have lip on it so it will slide down too far and the cap will pop off.
Doge is good with a chuff, the inner barrel is too big and limits u on build space, but then there goes the air flow options
I would go with mutation v3, or a troll, they have positive blocks.
The el cabron is good it is a standard 3 post but it has massive post holes and a single coil option.
Comes with 2 chuffs one massive stainless, a Delrin, and a 510 adapter.
The new twisted messes is just like the cabron but has a positive block.
I would suggest going to a brick and mortar and look at what they got, and talk to
them. While your there look around and see what other people are using and talk to them.
Chances are, if your local shop is like mine, someone has tried the rda your looking for.
If you get a clone tobbeco does a good job on them (for now). Just don't break the bank on
a rda save that extra money and get a ohm reader and good batteries.
Go to a few shops, some are chains and the guy behind the counter might not have a clue.
Check there web site or facebook and see what people say.
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Lot of the normal crowd at my local shop love there dark horse, I haven't had a chance to build on or use one.
I see a lot of other people using them too.
I see a lot of other people using them too.
I like my Mutation v3 for its silky smooth draw and ease of building, but getting a build on it to produce crisp flavor is a challenge.
If you're looking for clouds, that's your atty, no doubt.
I would recommend against a "cloud chasing" dripper for a first dripper, only because you'll never really develop an appreciation for the purity and strength of flavor a good RDA can provide. A 3-post design will probably be best to learn on, and one with grub screws will back out and wiggle your coils less. My recommendation would be Freakshow or its Mini brother.
No matter which way you go, you're about to hit a slippery slope, so brace yourself!
If you're looking for clouds, that's your atty, no doubt.
I would recommend against a "cloud chasing" dripper for a first dripper, only because you'll never really develop an appreciation for the purity and strength of flavor a good RDA can provide. A 3-post design will probably be best to learn on, and one with grub screws will back out and wiggle your coils less. My recommendation would be Freakshow or its Mini brother.
No matter which way you go, you're about to hit a slippery slope, so brace yourself!
I recently got a Doge V2 clone. I like it, but the copper screws kinda suck. Not sure if the authentic has copper screws or not. Its my first RDA as well, and I really liked it when I put my first single coil on it actually. Taste was great, clouds pretty dense. I just put a dual coil on it, which definitely did not come out as pretty as the single coil but I wasn't starting over and it works so I've been using it. Screws kinda make that dual coil harder to build, you gotta make sure you hit the sweet spot for them so they thread smoothly. I am going to get something else that either has a 2-hole positive block or something with phillips head screws or that uses an allen key, without using copper. The post holes are VERY big on the Doge which is nice if you are using thick gauged Kanthal but I am not so the wire was kinda hard to not get stuck on the side of the screw if that makes sense.
I'm loving my little boy clone, big clouds, great flavor, somewhat adjustable airflow, 3 posts that are easy to build on, and on top of that, it looks boss on my mech.
I would go with the IGO-L it's the perfect starter drip Atty. you will probable have to drill out the holes or not but for the quality and cost it's hard to beat the IGO-L
update! My magma clone by infinite was a total bust for me. I am a mouth to lung hitter and even the smallest hole was too large for me. The atty didn't sit flush on my istick and it was leaking like crazy!!! I was not happy with it at all and I have to say that I love my Igo L. I am hoping I can return the magma and get the igo w which allows for dual coil builds.
Also, the igo L does have a small air hole but if you dont plan to cloud chase it really is fine if you are a mouth to lunger. However, if you do straight lung hits you would need to make the hole large or get an adjustable air flow drip tip. Anyway, with what ever you decide I suggest specifically looking for potential problems with the atty you want because the reviews for the magma were fantastic and after I got it and looked up specific negatives I found that others were having the same issues I did.
Also, the igo L does have a small air hole but if you dont plan to cloud chase it really is fine if you are a mouth to lunger. However, if you do straight lung hits you would need to make the hole large or get an adjustable air flow drip tip. Anyway, with what ever you decide I suggest specifically looking for potential problems with the atty you want because the reviews for the magma were fantastic and after I got it and looked up specific negatives I found that others were having the same issues I did.
socalsailor, you got me curious about the freakshow. I'm also new to dripping, at least on rebuildable atty's but I seem to be hung up on IGO's. I'm curious what you mean by grub screws? I've been using an IGO-W which seems pretty nice but just a single coil, maybe 1.6 to 1.8 ohms. Anyhow does the IGO-W have what you call grub screws? If I bang it on something the screws do seem to work loose which is annoying. I also keep seeing where people are recommending the IGO-L but it appears to me to be a bit harder to build (price is sure right though), because I don't see any holes in the posts for the coil ends meaning you have to wrap under the screw. Maybe that is more secure and durable though. So, as far as IGO's I'm leaning towards picking up the IGO-T.
Anyhow, on the freakshow, can it be used with a single coil? This is something else that confuses me, I saw a review on an atty I can't remember, but they were saying it couldn't be used for single coil as it had 2 air holes. My IGO-W and many others would be in the same class?
Also, is the freakshow prone to leaking? I mean if you set it on it's side wouldn't the juice flow out of the well and down the air hole? I do like the idea of that bottom to top airflow though, in fact that is one reason I got a vision eternity. But that turned into a royal pain as all I have is 28 ga wire at the moment which is nearly impossible to rebuild on those with - that led me to look at the A7, same idea, air comes up through the center tube ... hmmm so many choices it boggles me mind
ellejewell, like you I am a mouth to lung hitter so thanks for the advice on the magma. Have you looked at the IGO-T? It appears to be very similar to the IGO-W, except it has a truncated top which I've read gives better flavor. Seems very similar otherwise though. I would like to know if the hole size is the same between the W and the T, anyone?
I always drill my IGO's out to 1.5-2 MM. The little Titanium IGO is great for flavor but I still drill out the holes. But my favorite BF Atty. is the Vicious Ant AFC Cyclone.
no I didnt even know there was an igo T I will have to check it out! The igo L has more of a domed top that I like where the iGo w is more flat so I don't know how that effects flavor. I will check into the igo T and let you know if I find anything useful though.
socalsailor, you got me curious about the freakshow. I'm also new to dripping, at least on rebuildable atty's but I seem to be hung up on IGO's. I'm curious what you mean by grub screws? I've been using an IGO-W which seems pretty nice but just a single coil, maybe 1.6 to 1.8 ohms. Anyhow does the IGO-W have what you call grub screws? If I bang it on something the screws do seem to work loose which is annoying. I also keep seeing where people are recommending the IGO-L but it appears to me to be a bit harder to build (price is sure right though), because I don't see any holes in the posts for the coil ends meaning you have to wrap under the screw. Maybe that is more secure and durable though. So, as far as IGO's I'm leaning towards picking up the IGO-T.
Anyhow, on the freakshow, can it be used with a single coil? This is something else that confuses me, I saw a review on an atty I can't remember, but they were saying it couldn't be used for single coil as it had 2 air holes. My IGO-W and many others would be in the same class?
Also, is the freakshow prone to leaking? I mean if you set it on it's side wouldn't the juice flow out of the well and down the air hole? I do like the idea of that bottom to top airflow though, in fact that is one reason I got a vision eternity. But that turned into a royal pain as all I have is 28 ga wire at the moment which is nearly impossible to rebuild on those with - that led me to look at the A7, same idea, air comes up through the center tube ... hmmm so many choices it boggles me mind
To answer some of your questions, grub screws are allen screws that screw completely into the posts without a screw head that protrudes. They stay snug much better than standard phillips screws. Also, the Freakshow (unless an update came out) is designed for dual coils only, unless you don't mind having an open airflow on the side without a coil. Personally, I think that kills flavor, but it's definitely personal preference. Finally, yes, it will probably leak if over dripped and laid on its side, since it's a side airflow design, but I've never had leaking issues with any of my RDAs if I shut the airflow before I drop my mod in my pocket, so YMMV. I recently acquired a Doge v2, also, and I'm loving it. Great clouds and very good flavor (although not on the same level as a derringer or freakshow mini, it's way better than, say, a mutation).
There are tons of very good atties out there, especially in the $50 and under category. For compact form factors, though, the derringer, fs mini, and maybe the samurai are tops. They can be challenging to build if you like fancy coils, but if you like to KISS and just throw some wraps on a screwdriver and roll, you should have no problems. Given a choice between fs mini and derringer, I'd go freakshow, only because the derringer negative posts are slots, and they don't accomodate sub-24g builds very readily.
Ah thanks for the info socalsailor. Being relatively new at the RDA's I'm all for keeping it simple. Honestly I'm pretty satisfied with a single coil on the IGO-W, at 1.7 ohms or so. If it starts tasting bad it's pretty quick and simple to rebuild. The grub screws do sound like a nice advantage though and being a mouth to lunger I'm fine with small holes, though adjustable air flow sounds pretty sweet to fine tune the draw. Eventually I'd like to get 3-5 similar atty's so I always have a spare or two prebuilt on hand. That makes the below $50 or even $20 pretty desirable.
Not to belabor things, but thinking my ideal RDA might look something like this:
1. Cost not much higher than 20 or 30 bucks.
2. Super easy to build, with a single coil - though options for dual coil if wanted in the future.
3. Adjustable air flow would be awesome, but if not available leaning towards tight draw (can drill out if needed).
4. Grub screws a big advantage, frustrating when my coils come loose from a bump or rattling around in pocket.
Things I don't like in an RDA
1. Pricey!
2. The ones I've seen with no well to speak of, deck drops straight away to threads.
3. As I'm a mouth to lunger, I don't like huge air holes (unless adjustable of course).
4. Not good for a single coil.
Sorry about another long post, just jotting my ideas down, it does look like the fs checks most of the boxes except for the extra air hole - I suppose one could cover that with some tape but kinda detracts from the looks. Still thinking the IGO-T might be fun to try, wish it had better screws, or even still the A7, but again with the screws. Well, maybe I'll just pull the trigger and try em out.
Thanks again for the advice!
Not to belabor things, but thinking my ideal RDA might look something like this:
1. Cost not much higher than 20 or 30 bucks.
2. Super easy to build, with a single coil - though options for dual coil if wanted in the future.
3. Adjustable air flow would be awesome, but if not available leaning towards tight draw (can drill out if needed).
4. Grub screws a big advantage, frustrating when my coils come loose from a bump or rattling around in pocket.
Things I don't like in an RDA
1. Pricey!
2. The ones I've seen with no well to speak of, deck drops straight away to threads.
3. As I'm a mouth to lunger, I don't like huge air holes (unless adjustable of course).
4. Not good for a single coil.
Sorry about another long post, just jotting my ideas down, it does look like the fs checks most of the boxes except for the extra air hole - I suppose one could cover that with some tape but kinda detracts from the looks. Still thinking the IGO-T might be fun to try, wish it had better screws, or even still the A7, but again with the screws. Well, maybe I'll just pull the trigger and try em out.
Thanks again for the advice!
Check out the marquis. Authentic is very pricy but the tobeco clone I picked up was a whooping $15. You can single or duel coil, you really have to over drip for leaks and it's not super airy.
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