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Zmerc

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Hi, as you can see by my lovely total post I am new to this site and E-cigs.

Today while doing some holiday shopping was confronted by a E-cig vendor,"smoke-Everywhere". Once she found out I was smoker(after i told her), she was trying to push the sell on to much for my comfort. As a bit of haggler I am, this gave me a bit of a warning flag when the seller is trying to haggle me into buying the product, rather the other way around. I've seen E-cigs before but never paid much attention too them. After today she did atleast perk my interest for them.

After doing much research learned that Smoke-Everywhere are crap product, makes me glad I didnt waste $140 on them. Also learned that Smokeless Image seems to have the most top reviews for someone who doesnt want too mod, and is a starter.

I just have a couple questions for those who smoke E-cigs and most importantly those who smoke a volt.

I live in a very small dorm, with a roommate who is non-smoker but is a close friend of mine. We live on the 5th floor, and walking down all those stairs just too smoke a cig. was getting a bit annoying. Which brings to thinking about smoking inside my dorm room as a alternative, pretty sure seeing how there are no rules against E-cigs I can get my RN to allow me to smoke inside my room.

The dorm room basically has no airflow to it, and also has a big o'smoke alarm. I just have 2 concerns

How long does the vape smoke linger around for, after your exhale. I dont want too smoke out my roommate, and also scared of setting off the Smoke-alarm. So does anyone have any experience smoking in a small room with a smoke-alarm. I know its not actually smoke but water vaper, but also know that sometimes a steamy shower will set of a sensitive smoke alarm. So not exactly sure if the same principles would apply with a E-cig.

My other question Is. Was thinking about getting a auto-65mm, and manual 78mm. I was wanting the auto to be 65mm for the pre-filled cato. because its bit smaller and less bulky the 78mm. I was wondering though if it anyone has 78mm and hasnt really noticed a major size difference compared too 65mm, to make it worth getting less-powerful battery.

Thanks, and hope you have a happy holidays.
 

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hi Zmerc! I chose the Volt as my first e-cig and have been using it for a little over 2 weeks now. The vapor doesn't linger. It dissipates in 5-10 seconds (depending on your juice). I can't input too much on the smoke alarm issue, other than I just don't see it setting it off, perhaps another has more experience with the small room/sensitive smoke alarm than I do.

I highly doubt you'd ever smoke out your roommate. It's not the same...not even close, as a real cigarette. Some of the juices even have a very nice scent.

About the batteries, I'd go with the manual. I think many would agree it's the better option. When I first ordered, I had one of each, and the size is not that much different at all. Manuals are just better.

I'm glad you avoided the pitfall at the local mall and I think you will be really happy with a Volt as your first e-cig...I know I am :D
 

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I have never set off a Fire alarm indoors, however. on rainy or very cold days when im puff puff puffing in my car on break at work, you CAN see some vape flow out of the car when i open the door to exit. However for the ammount i puffed its not a large plume. It dose dissipate fairly fast. And if your vapeing a volt i doubt it has enough output to really linger.
 

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thanks for the replies guys, makes me a little less worried about the vapor. Was planning on getting the Sweet sampler pack for my 5 cart. Im not a heavy smoker, I smoke about 5 or so a day, more if im drunk or with friends. I usually smoke Turkish royals or Malabo special blends/lights. What nicotine level should I get. Was thinking medium seems like a good fit for me. Or should I just get the high.
 
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Welcome to ECF Zmerc. My wife is a non-smoker and she has had absolutely no problem with the vapor. As a matter of fact, she always asks me to blow a bit in her face when I try a new juice so she can get an idea of what it is like. As you said, it's pretty much water vapor. Talk it over with your roommate. Also, remember to drink lots of water! Vaping can dehydrate you.
 

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18-24 is usually a good start spot. 24 if you want a Harder Hit. I was on 24 for awhile till i got adjusted to how to properly hit an ecig and then had to drop off cause i was getting nic Headaches. 18 Should still give you enough of a buzz but not be too powerful.

Ummm, you might want to be careful on the nic level. You find a lot of people equate the nic level with throat hit and choose accordingly.
I think that is a BIG MISTAKE for someone new to this!!!

Remember, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. A standard Marlboro is 18mg or more nic per pack (See link HERE) . If your not used to chain smoking, your gonna end up with a blinding headache. As a beginner, I found myself chain vaping my Volt because the flavor was awesome and I got some blinding headaches you wouldn't believe. It took several aspirin (aspirin thins the blood and compensates for the nic) to get a grip on it. Tylenol/Advil won't do it!
Choose your nic level according to how you smoke. For me, I tried 18mg cuz I was a pack-a-day MB red man. It was too much. To allow myself to chain vape at leisure, I went to a 12mg instead and it works great. Now that I've settled in, I've considered raising it again, but decided I'd rather chain-vape instead. :)

Basically, choose your nic level based on YOUR body and your current smoking habit, NOT THROAT HIT!! Once you've gotten used to the transition and got settled into your vaping, THEN adjust your nic according to need. Remember also, that nic is the habit forming part. If your trying to quit, don't jack the levels higher than what you currently use. Start easy and go from there.
 
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Sorry wrong above. A standard Marlboro is NOT 18mg nic per cig. An entire pack of lights is 18mg. An entire pack of full strength cigs is usually more like 24mg. A single full strength cigarette is usually around 1.2mg of nicotine. A single light cig is around 0.9mg of nicotine.
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Since the Volts are regulated 3.6 instead of 3.7v, the voltage is more even with both size BUT the 65mm has significantly less charge than the 78mm one. (220mah vs 320mah

SmokelessImage juices (and any juices I recommend for cartomizers) are 80PG/20VG (recommend 10-20% VG). Unless the room is very cold, the visible vapor won't hang around very long with that little VG. However the aroma will hang around. I vape cocoa and vanilla at work and those aromas are fairly unnoticeable.
 
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I want to second what FishmanTx said. I was a 2 pack per day Marb red smoker and 18mg was what got me through, so I doubt if someone who only smokes 5 cigs a day would need that much nic. Too much and you just end up feeling like garbage.

I have it on good authority from 2 rabid non-smokers in my life that the vapor isn't irritating at all. As a matter of fact, when I was vaping in my Mother-in-law's house (something that never would have happened with cigarettes) she thought it smelled good. Like others have said, the vapor dissipates quickly.

I only have 78mm Volt autos so I can't actually compare the size, but the longer batteries have 320mAh compared to the 65mm 220mAh. It's said that 100mAh is equal to an hour of use, so basically you get and extra hour of battery life.

Good luck and happy vaping!:vapor:
 

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Ok, granted, my bad on the specific number, but it doesn't change the fact of what the results were. I had to order some 0mg to blend with my juice and wash out all my prefilled cartos. THAT in itself along with nic-migraines could put off a new vaper.

VG/PG: PG = 100% according to the SI reps (Imagine). Kinda sucks as I like their RY4, but 100% PG is real hard on my throat.

Psyche
I use Volt 78mm sealed autos and one gets me through most of the day (til I can get to my passthrough) but I own 2 for "just in case".
 
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Nicotine level needs vary too dramatically to give a firm recommendation for 18mg. Many of us needed 36mg or 24mg to quit the cigarettes; some need only 12mg or 18mg. There doesn't seem to be a firm correlation between former analogue consumption and the ideal starting nic level. In other words, I've seen people post here who smoked half a pack of light cigs a day who needed 24mg or higher to quit. I've also seen heavy-duty 2 PAD full-strength smokers who can't handle anything more than 18mg. There's no obvious pattern that I can see but if I recall correctly, polls conducted here at ECF show that the most popular nicotine level is 24mg.

If the OP only smokes five analogs a day, I'm guessing that 18mg will be good - but he may need to bump it up WITHOUT GUILT if 18mg doesn't cut it. (He may also need to reduce it to 12mg... who knows?) The goal is to get off analogs. Worry about the nicotine level later.

I would suggest that the OP buy 24mg and 0mg (or some other combination), then mix them together as needed to tweak the nic level until he knows what will work best for him.
 

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Yep, I found it's a combination of "how much you vape" (nic intake) vs "what your used to" (analog nic intake) and it gets pretty convoluted when you try to consider "what's a full cartos nic value", "how many ml of nicquid equals a pack of analogs", "is what I'm vaping equal to a pack", etc.. ad nauseum. I stop when my scalp starts feeling tight.....
 

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Thanks for all the advice guys, I greatly appreciated it. One last question is I plan on going to hawaii for 2 Weeks to visit my Sister and Brother-in-law who live there. Has anyone traveled on airplane with their E-cig. I was just going put it in my check-in luggage and not the actual carry on, because figured they would search my backpack once they see 2 electrical rods on monitor. Or do you think I should just leave my E-cigs at home and just go analog on the trip.
 

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ok disregard my last question, realized there is a travel section in the forums. Also was told to learn count my Puffs so I dont over do it and chain vape all day. I know it properly depends on how much liquid is in the pre-filled. But would you say 200 puffs is a good estimate on how long each cart. will last? or is it less then that?
 
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I would recommend the auto sealed Volt batts, they are wonderful! I got a starter kit for my step daughter. Get the 78 length, they last longer on a charge and are not big. I liked the flavors Volt offered in the tobacco smooth pack. I prefer Halo G6 cartos, but you may really like the Volt cartos, alot of people do and they do have good flavors. bnrk
 

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ok disregard my last question, realized there is a travel section in the forums. Also was told to learn count my Puffs so I dont over do it and chain vape all day. I know it properly depends on how much liquid is in the pre-filled. But would you say 200 puffs is a good estimate on how long each cart. will last? or is it less then that?

I never actually counted my puffs :) One thing I advise to do is get some blank cartos, get some pure PG and pure VG so you can vape some zero nic plain when your taste buds go thru changes or to add a drop or two in a flavor that seems too strong or to dilute a nic strength. You can also get some zero nic juice you like so if you go on a vape binge you don't have to worry about getting too much nic. Most new users go thru a chain vape saga for awhile, I know I did! puff puff puff for days on end! ha ha Thankfully I had gotten a low nic to vape but I wish I had some zero then as well. Once you get your nic fix you can still vape away without worry on zero nic. bnrk
 

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Make sure you get some extra juice samples from somewhere the prefilled get used up quickly. If you let them dry out they will taste yucky but if you buy the juice too you can refill and make each carto last awhile. Volt is a very nice way to begin. Its easier to carry along with you, to stealth vape etc. The only downside is short battery life (so you will need at least 2) its a cooler vape and you will have to buy that specific type of carto KR808d1 for as long as you use the Volt. I started on 24 mg and am still at 24 mg. It satisfies me enough that I don't have to chain vape all day only at night...lol---but thats just me. I like my Volt and still use when I am out and about. Welcome to ECF and good luck to you.
 
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