New to forum and fairly new to vaping

[sbphotog]

Earlier this past summer I bought my first e-cig, a Njoy Npro. I used it for about a month before the "testing" that claims there is antifreeze chemical in the Njoy juice and the Njoy products were removed from the store I bought it from. A little bummed out, I went back to analogs. Then about a week ago I thought about buying some e-juice from a usa supplier and go back to vaping, so I bought some smoke juice from Johnson Creek Smoke Juice . Got my bottle a couple days ago and being very pleased with the taste and amount of vapor I ordered more in different flavors.
I started thinking how long do atomizers last? I went on Njoys website and they want $20 for 1 atomizer! A bit pricey compared to other brands and the fact that I'm not real happy with Njoy as it is. After reading some reviews here, I decided to order a new starter kit and decided on Modern Vapors Sidesho (pink). I should receive my order in a few days and can't wait to try it out.

 

[DC2]

The antifreeze thingie, while important to take note of since is should NOT be in there, was NOT found in the any of the NJoy cartridges tested, only in one of the Smoking Everywhere cartridges. From what I understand the Smoking Everywhere juice does not come from the Dekang, which makes 90% of the juice in the market, so that is important to know.

And even knowing that, you should also know that the amount of diethylene glycol that was found in that one Smoking Everywhere cartridge (approximately 1% according to the test results) is not particularly harmful and would require sucking down hundreds of cartridges per day to get anywhere near a toxic level. Also of note is that diethylene glycol is also in cigarettes, and the FDA allows amounts of less that 0.1% to be present in any products that contain propylene glycol.

Yeah, that is not the best news, but not the worst news either.
And yes, again, that diethylene glycol should not be in there not matter how little there was.

And just FYI, your NPro is an RN4081 model and you get get replacements parts for it in any number of places that are far less expensive than getting them from NJoy.

 

[beckah54]

Earlier this past summer I bought my first e-cig, a Njoy Npro. I used it for about a month before the "testing" that claims there is antifreeze chemical in the Njoy juice and the Njoy products were removed from the store I bought it from. A little bummed out, I went back to analogs. Then about a week ago I thought about buying some e-juice from a usa supplier and go back to vaping, so I bought some smoke juice from Johnson Creek Smoke Juice . Got my bottle a couple days ago and being very pleased with the taste and amount of vapor I ordered more in different flavors.
I started thinking how long do atomizers last? I went on Njoys website and they want $20 for 1 atomizer! A bit pricey compared to other brands and the fact that I'm not real happy with Njoy as it is. After reading some reviews here, I decided to order a new starter kit and decided on Modern Vapors Sidesho (pink). I should receive my order in a few days and can't wait to try it out.

If you want to order additional parts for your npro, try this forum. Everything you ever wanted to know about them. It would make a good backup unit for you.

RN 4081 *Super Mini* - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

 

[catwoman19]

SBPHOTOG,
I don't think they actually found diethylene gloycol in any of the carts they tested, propylene glycol is used in antifreeze to make it LESS toxic, PG is also used in ice cream and toothpaste. Have no fear, e-juice is 4000 times safer than analogs any day of the week.

 

[Jim Davis]

The antifreeze thingie, while important to take note of since is should NOT be in there, was NOT found in the any of the NJoy cartridges tested, only in one of the Smoking Everywhere cartridges. From what I understand the Smoking Everywhere juice does not come from the Dekang, which makes 90% of the juice in the market, so that is important to know.

Good research deadcat;
Here's my take on this. Since these carts are mass produced, how did the chemical show up in only ONE of the carts? And how did that ONE cart make it to the testing lab?

Looks fishy to me. But then, our Government wouldn't lie to us, would they?

 

[DC2]

SBPHOTOG,
I don't think they actually found diethylene gloycol in any of the carts they tested, propylene glycol is used in antifreeze to make it LESS toxic, PG is also used in ice cream and toothpaste. Have no fear, e-juice is 4000 times safer than analogs any day of the week.

Yes, they did find diethylene glycol in one of the SE cartridges according to the test results published by the FDA, but you are pretty much correct that these are about 4000 times safer than cigarettes, based on the measley levels of the six or seven carcinogens found in the juice.

And it is worth noting further that those carcinogens and the diethylene glycol were NOT found in the vapor, just the juice in raw form prior to being vaporized.

But if you really want to take it a step further and remember that there are around 30 other additional carcinogens that you will also find in cigarettes, along with tons and tons of other harmful chemicals, then you could probably argue that electronic cigarettes are somewhere around 10,000 to 20,000 times safer than death sticks.

And if you consider the fact that none of this at all was found in the actual vapor, then you could really make a plausible argument that electronic cigarettes are actually completely safe based on the FDA's own test results, with nothing harmful whatsoever containted in the vapor.

And that would make them approximately 10 ZILLION times safer than coffin nails.

 

[props76]

Yes, they did find diethylene glycol in one of the SE cartridges according to the test results published by the FDA,

And thats where it gets funny...

diethyline glycol is used humectant (to obsorb water from the air) for some tobacco products LOL

So this may have entered the e-juice during the extraction of nicotine from tobacco??

There are traces of everything in about everything if you look close enough. The question is are they at a concetration that it makes ANY difference.

 

[Deschain]

I'll take half a dozen dodgy chemicals over 4000 dodgy chemicals any day of the week...if they looked close enough, they'd probably find plutonium in these things (it's in everything else as I understand)

E-CIGS ARE RADIOACTIVE!!11!ONE!!1


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[sbphotog]

That is why I decided to go back to vaping. The only reason I stopped in the first place is because they removed the njoy carts from the stores. I'd rather take my chances with one potential carcinagen as opposed to a definate 40+ with smoking tobacco.

 

[oldtechno]

Na, E-Cigs is people!

You're vaping your great great...great grandmother! RUN!!!