New To Vaping. Avid Hookah Smoker

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oonej

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Dude you need to check out eHookahUSA ejuice at GoodEJuice! I've been dying to suggest this to someone. It actually tastes remarkably like hookah!

Thanks for the comment Jazzi, but there are like a total of 8 flavors lol. Not quiet a selection. I wish starbuzz came out with ejuice lol

I am a hookah smoker as well. The starbuzz disposal e-hookahs are actually what introduced me to vaping. Proud to say that I haven't felt the need to visit my favorite hookah bar since I bought my own vape.

I recommend visiting mtbakervapor and buying a few flavors that mimic your favor hookah flavors. I used to LOVE mango pineapple shisha from my hookah bar, and mtbakervapor's mango juice has held me down. Since the nicotine fix is not a big deal for most hookah smokers, I get most of my juice with 0 nicotine so I can chain vape all day all night. :D

Good luck.

Yeah mtbackervapor is a good site, just sooo many options! like BACON!!! OMG! haha, would never buy that but still neat...
 
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Im sure glad I found this site n thread. Like the op i never been a cig smoker love hookahs n the occasional cigar tho. After reading n watching reviews n throwing $ away on those damn gasoline station hookah stix I decided to purchase a 1300 winder vv n protank this week. I have no intentions on using it daily just a few times times a week mostly heavy on weekends, is it ok for liquid to sit for long in the tank? Also i do enjoy the buzz you get from the nicotine in hookahs but also knw it isnt much so would the 6mg in liquid be too much?
 

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Im sure glad I found this site n thread. Like the op i never been a cig smoker love hookahs n the occasional cigar tho. After reading n watching reviews n throwing $ away on those damn gasoline station hookah stix I decided to purchase a 1300 winder vv n protank this week. I have no intentions on using it daily just a few times times a week mostly heavy on weekends, is it ok for liquid to sit for long in the tank? Also i do enjoy the buzz you get from the nicotine in hookahs but also knw it isnt much so would the 6mg in liquid be too much?

I dont know about your question. But glad this post helped as I was in your boat a few weeks ago! Glad it helped :) As for the nicotine levels I am going with no nicotine (since hookah has .05% typically) which is so little. Last thing I need is another habit to break lol.
 

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3.5 watts shouldn't burn at all. Bad wicking?

Also, underpowered vaporization is harsh too..because there isn't enough power to vaporize the e-juice properly. Most can do 6 watts or more on a coil without issue.

You could try thinning the juice a bit. Otherwise, that's complete B.S. (from the how it should work perspective, not from your story perspective) and something is wrong somewhere mechanically because it should work for ya!

I suspect the juice is too thick, not wicking, and burning as a result.
 

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3.5 watts shouldn't burn at all. Bad wicking?

Also, underpowered vaporization is harsh too..because there isn't enough power to vaporize the e-juice properly. Most can do 6 watts or more on a coil without issue.

You could try thinning the juice a bit. Otherwise, that's complete B.S. (from the how it should work perspective, not from your story perspective) and something is wrong somewhere mechanically because it should work for ya!

I suspect the juice is too thick, not wicking, and burning as a result.

It must of been the juice, after suffering through the little i put in, i put wintergreen in , same mix but looked a bit thicker in contrast to the others. It is smoking like a champ at 8.0. LOTS of smoke taste is AMAZING!
 

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It must of been the juice, after suffering through the little i put in, i put wintergreen in , same mix but looked a bit thicker in contrast to the others. It is smoking like a champ at 8.0. LOTS of smoke taste is AMAZING!

The other thick juice can be thinned with a few (literally one or two or three) drops of water. If still too thick, add a drop at a time until it works.

Glad you got it rocking! :)

EDIT: Oh, wait, juice #2 was THICKER? Oh, 8 watts rather than 3.5. OK! Whatever works. 8.0 watts is considered about normal range. :)
 
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Yeah the juice looked thicker, but oyu know i was being a vape noob and didn't shake my juice the first go around... maybe thats what it was.... lol

cranked it up to 10, and 11 with no throat hit... man this flavor is amazing lol

Cool!

Just an FYI, and a caution that this subject is a bit controversial:

I don't have the thread links, but you can probably find them in the health section. There's indication that if e-cigs do produce things like formaldehyde and/or acrolein it is with high VG juices at high wattages. Still probably better than anything that is burned. However, it's good to do some research on the subject as long as we're discussing it.

I'm NOT trying to scare anyone or fear monger or anything. I still think e-cigs are fantastic compared to products-of-combustion and such. It's harm reduction, not necessarily 100% safe.

That said, if you're not sensitive to PG and can tolerate the harsher qualities of it, and/or you can operate a PV at lowest effective wattage and still get a good vape, that's my best guess right now as a safer way to run. Depends on how much you are concerned about this stuff. And note that this is all hearsay on my part from memory and other threads.

Anyway, do some research if you are interested. I only mention it due to the wattage you are stating and other threads I've read. :)

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Congratulations!

The nic will add some TH (throat hit) to it so don't be surprised!
 

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I've heard that this setup is good but want to get more feed back before purchasing my "e-cig."

KGO V.V. 650mAh - KGO VV 650mAh
EGO Vision clearomizers LR 2.1-2.4ohm - Kanger T3
Velvet Vapors - Home - flavors

Well, myself, I dunno KGO but this guy is highly regarded in the vape world and here's his review:

A PBusardo Review - KGO VV - Hoosier ECig - YouTube

I haven't watched the whole thing myself but he seems to think well of Hoosier. And I've seen other people here speak well of them.

(PBusardo is well known, widely respected, and has tons and tons of review and info videos on You Tube. Great resource.)

Only thing that kinda bothers me right off is that it goes to 6 volts. And the only problem with that is you'll have to figure out power charts and coil head resistance and all. Too high a voltage can fry a juice and burn out a coil head. When I switched to variable voltage, I got Twists and middle of the road resistance coil heads so I wouldn't blunder my way into burning out coils. :)

Meaning there could be more "fiddling" and learning curve with a VV that goes that high. Whether that's an issue for you or not is up to you.

I generally feel more comfortable recommending a kit like this for somebody new to vaping: Spinner/Twist Combo. Doesn't have to be that kit, doesn't have to be that vendor and, no, they're not giving me a commission (but much as I mention them, huh, maybe I should send 'em a bill! :D ). But along those lines. Twists and Spinners are good, solid batteries. Easy to adjust. Don't run too high and you're less likely to fry something. You can get Kangers for them as well ("eGo" being a style or standard and "kGo" being a branded version... lots of widgets that fit so you get bunches of options). And I know Kanger is highly regarded though, myself, I use Visions (in fact, I see the EVOD recommended a lot, I'm going to have to try one and see what the hoopla is about).

In short, yeah, that looks like a good kit. Just if you get it, start at the low voltage setting and step up gradually. Don't start at 6v thinking, "Hey, that could be lotsa vapor!" That could end in a nasty surprise.

(In fact, starting out with any variable vapor set up, you should start at the bottom setting and go up gradually. When you get experienced with 'em, you'll zip to the settings you like easily. I never even look at the dial anymore. I can hit a voltage by "feel" these days.)

Although the Kanger says it can't use 100% VG. So i'm trying to figure out where to go from here. I want bellows of smoke, not too harsh on the throat and easy cleaning and setup.

I keep reading that kind of thing but I use 100% VG in clearos and I don't know what the problem is. Yeah, I have to clean them more frequently but... so? My clearos ("clearomizers", the little tank looking widgets like the Kanger T3 that hold the juice, "clearo" is jargon you'll see often here) cost me all of $5 a pop. So I bought extras. I can rotate them through cleaning and sitting around air drying and keep going. No big deal.

On the other hand, I ended up splitting the difference and use 50/50 PG/VG mostly. And I like vapor production myself. My 50/50 does pretty good.

Funny thing about how this vapor stuff works is vapor production actually has more to do with you staying hydrated than just about anything. The base liquids get water from the air and, well, you. You will have to increase the amount of water you drink as you can dehydrate yourself vaping. I've also noticed that sipping water right before taking a puff on the PV produces more vapor. Noticing such things apparently proves I'm easily entertained.

Huh, just noticed the link calls them "EGO Vision" but it goes to Kanger T3. That's not correct actually. Vision and Kanger are two different brands. Oh well. Kanger is well liked I know. Yeah, here are the Visions like I'm using:

Vision 2.0 Ego Clearomizer w/ replaceable head

Same basic idea. I actually just tend to prefer them because of the way they look. That "taper" thing seems better looking to me on the battery. Some clearos "bulk out". It's a purely personal preference thing.

Since we do smoke a lot, a long lasting battery would be ideal. From what I've read the KGO will last long enough for a day of smoking (with breaks).

Depends. The link you posted goes to 650mAh batteries. That "mAh" thing is the capacity of the battery. Higher is, well, more. If you're any kind of electronics geek (I am, sorry :) ), it's milliamp hours. If you use 65mA on average, a 650mAh battery lasts ten hours. 650/65 = 10. Blah, blah.

Thing is, how much will you use? Uh... dunno. The "rule of thumb" is 100mAh for "average" vaping. So a 650 battery should last almost seven hours. But this does not seem to work for hardly anybody in the real world. I do not know where that "rule of thumb" came from. What I do know is my 1000mAh Twists last no more than 6 hours on a charge. Which is more an average of 170mAh I'm using. Or something like that. I figure a 650 would last me maybe 4 hours?

In short, if you want longer, go bigger. And you always want at least two so one can charge while the other is in use. But the actual amount of time a battery will last you personally is impossible to predict. If it turns out you vape very lightly, they'll last longer. If you find you like to vape a lot (I do), you get less time per charge. I'm a pretty heavy vaper and have three Twists, 1000mAh each, and rotate them. Always have at least one fully charged and ready to go when the one I'm using runs down and needs a charge.

Any advice to cut the hookah habbit and move to an e-cig since the prices seem to be a lot lower. Another question - if you guys decide to read this far down. How much money do you think we would save from getting an e-cig vs the hookah. 1 box of tobacco lasts us about 2-3 days at (14 dollars a box)

Exact amounts, dunno. I can tell you I'm spending a tiny fraction of what smoking cost me. Once you get going with vaping, there are a lot of ways to cut cost. It's not easy to do "cheap" when you're getting started since you're not familiar with what you like and what works for you and you have to experiment. Buy and try different liquids and such.

Once you get settled in, though, you can do things like what I'm doing. I buy my nic juice "plain" and buy flavorings then mix them myself. A lot of the premade stuff can be really, really great since it's done by people who know what they're doing and all but basic mixes are really easy to do and can save a ton. But you do have to figure out what kind of vape you like before you can mix it yourself.

And Velvet seems kinda pricey to me. I buy a lot from Mount Baker (abbreviated MBV a lot here). Velvet sells 30ml for about $17 while MBV sells that size around $7.50. Velvet seems positioning themselves as "gourmet" and they may (I dunno, never bought theirs) have spectacular juices but you say you're looking to save money so MBV is better on price. And they have nice juices I think (and a lot of folks here like 'em, that's how I found them, other ECFers talking about 'em).

You can also browse around the Forum Supplier section. Has registered, known vendors. Good starting place for new folks to find reputable vendors. Not that all the reputable vendors are registered with ECF. But if you're new, it's good to have "vetted" folks to start with.

I really like MBV myself. They throw discount codes at you, you get deals if you sign up for their newsletter, they toss in free samples in orders a lot. Nicely run place. They also have a DIY section when you want to start playing with your own mixes. I call it the "easy bake" version of DIY. Really, really easy to do. There are more complex, sophisticated ways (and a whole section here dedicated to liquid DIY) but the MBV version is a great way to get started. It's what I'm doing right now. It's "squirt stuff in bottles and shake" easy. Then you can branch out if you want. Right now, myself, I'm looking to vape on the cheap more than doing "fancy". Money's tight right now.

And I was a heavy smoker ($300+ a month at least) and am a heavy vaper. But, lessee, in May, I stocked up on plain nic juice. Spent $60. Late June, got another bottle of plain and a bunch of flavors, spent $44. Yesterday, restocked on flavors I use a lot and got some 0 nic juice to dilute with and that was... $30.

So... $45 a month average? I'm getting near 90% less cost than my tobacco habit...
 

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1) What burning? I thought it was working OK. See tips above on thinning a bit if you need to.
2) 2.5 ohms would be cooler than 2.4 ohms.

Ohms are a measure of restriction/resistance/impedance/slowing-down the electricity flow. The higher the #, the more restricted the flow is...the less power per second.

It's normal for it to vary a bit ...like +/- .1 ohms ... due to manufacturing variables.
 
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