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invididual

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I'm Jason, been a 1-2 pack a day smoker for 20 years. I got started vaping about a month ago and finally totally kicked analogs on March 5th.

Right now I'm using the v4l standard battery and cartomizers with juices to refill and i have 1 tank, I have a couple xl manual batteries on the way and i should get them sometime this week.

I'm just starting to learn about vaping in more depth and would like to know where I can/should go from where I'm at right now, like whats the next logical step in my vaping adventure?

I've noticed the CoolCarts still get hot (not as hot as the others) as does the tank. Does the heating just come with the territory? I tend to cool off the carts when I'm in my truck by putting them up to the A/C vents lol.
 

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Maybe you're tired of recharging so often. Maybe you notice a rapid drop-off in vapor quality or quantity. Maybe you'd like to try an atty, carto or tank that's not compatible with your current e-cig. Maybe you found out that the only cartos compatible with your unit are adding up in terms of expense. Maybe your costly batteries are wearing out too often. Maybe you want to try a low resistance carto for more and warmer vapor without overheating and burning up your cartridge or consigning your battery to an early grave. Maybe you just don't consider yourself a smoker anymore, so the idea of looking like you're smoking an analog no longer appeals to you. These are just a few reasons people decide to move along.

Here's the typical progression:

1) E-cig that looks like a cigarette. Small battery, sometimes proprietary cartos that don't allow refilling or proprietary threading that don't allow other refillable cartos to be used. Many have automatic batteries and a LED on the tip to appeal to newbies. This class also doesn't let you use low resistance attys and cartos, since those should only be used on batteries over 450mah or so.

2) The eGo type. Roughly the size of a Sharpie marker, these mimic the form factor of the original Joytech eGo but are now produced under different names, by different manufacturers and in a variety of capacities. All but one are sealed battery units, therefore disposable. They will last from a few months to a year or more, depending on capacity and your vaping habits. Currently, they are available from 650mah up to to 1300mah. This is where the automatic battery idea is dispensed with. Some of them have lights, but they're usually at the button and sometimes perform other functions, such as the Firefly's battery condition indicator, which is located in a ring near the bottom of the unit. These all have much higher battery capacities than the stick or analog look-alikes in #1. Their voltages are usually regulated from 3.4 to 3.7V. They're a good introduction to high quality mods. They can be used with many kinds of tanks, cartos and attys, including low resistance attys and cartos, as well as those specifically designed for them. Some models are the eGo, Riva, kGo, GoGo, Vgo, Firefly and one that takes generic batteries, the E-Power. For someone "graduating" from the mini or analog look-alikes, my personal recommendation is the E-Power for it's replaceable switch and use of easily available generic replacement batteries.

3) Mods: Some people never bother with this step and are perfectly happy to stay at #2. Others skip #2 and go directly to this category. In terms of variety, this is where the vaping world really opens up, so you'll need to do your research to find one that fits you the best. Mods include all those devices, either tube or box shaped, that take one or more non-proprietary batteries. You'll find mods that take very high capacity, high drain batteries of all sizes. They are compatible with the maximum variety of cartos, atty's, tanks, etc. This is also the place where you find the bottom feeders, top feeders and all those beautiful wood PV's like the Reo, Monekyboxx, etc. This is also the point at which a multimeter becomes virtually indispensable.

4) "Super-Mods". This is the category that includes the variable voltage mods, the high dollar mods and all those mods that appeal to people who love to tinker, experiment, try different voltages, etc. The Provari and Darwin are two VV mods in this class.

I don't know what options you have with the V4L. If your carto is getting too hot, you might need something that can keep up with you and won't overheat. So you might want to look at moving to #2 or even #3. You'll have a very large selection of cartos from which to choose. I chain-vape and never have a carto get uncomfortably warm.
 
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Welcome welcome..!!!

Sailorman - thats some great advice and rather unbiased at that

Individual - you are NOT just an individual here... peeps here do care and are more than willing to offer suggestions and help. Keep in mind this journey is your own and you can tailor this journey to your own needs and tastes. Mine came with sucesses as well as its frustrations. Take what you need from here and leave the rest for another day. Good luck on this adventure..!!
 

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If the battery setup you are currently using is working for you, why would you want to move up? I'm not suggesting you don't but rather why do you want too? If what you're using is working for you, stick with it. No need to go any farther unless you're prepared to learn about battery safety which consists of a bunch of reading/homework.

One more question...why are you cooling your carts off infront of the AC? Warm liquid, for me, gives the best flavor.
 

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so an eGo kit something like this Sailorman?

GotVapes E-POWER Replaceable Battery eGo Kit - BLACK 18650 [gotvapes-epower-black18650] - $61.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

im assuming i can use cartomizers with it as long as its a 510, i dont really know the difference between cartomizers and atomizers to be perfectly honest.

Yep, that's the E-Power version of the eGo. You can use any 510 carto or atomizer on it. Like all eGo's it has a cone that screws onto the end. Some cartos may be too fat to fit through the nose on the cone. The clear ones that are not made specifically for the eGo's are like that. But, if you really want that sleek look of the cone, there are cones with a bigger hole in the nose. The cones are not mandatory, BTW. They're strictly for looks.

Likewise, standard 510 atomizers might be too short to stick out the end of the cone. There are "shorty" cones to get around this too. Cones are pretty cheap, about $3-$4, but they aren't mandatory. So if you want to use something that doesn't allow the cone, don't worry about it. Just use it with no cone.

Standard cartomizers DO fit fine with the cones. I have a Firefly and a standard length cartomizer works perfectly with the cone.

An atomizer is a tube that contains a coil to heat your juice. YOu can drip straight into them and stick a mouthpiece or "drip tip" on the end and vape that way. Or you can attach a cartridge of some type to hold the juice and deliver it into the atomizer. The thread pattern on the end of the atty needs to match your PV, for example, 510 or 808, etc. If you have a 510 PV and a different atomizer or cartomizer thread pattern, you can get adapters.

A cartomizer is a one-piece unit that consists of a cartridge you fill with juice and a built-in atomizer (Cart-o-mizer). They are like the cartridges you use on your current ecig. What they call a cartridge is really a cartomizer. What we call a cartridge is something that only holds, but doesn't heat, juice.

You'll probably get some cartomizers with your starter kit, but you should have spares. I like Boge. Anything from 2-3 ohms will work fine. The lower the ohms, the warmer the vape, but the faster the cartomizer will burn out. Same thing applies to atomizers. Carotmizers are disposable, but some people like to clean them and can make them last a couple weeks. Atomizers generally last longer than cartomizers. But they too are disposable.
 

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Maybe you're tired of recharging so often. Maybe you notice a rapid drop-off in vapor quality or quantity. Maybe you'd like to try an atty, carto or tank that's not compatible with your current e-cig. Maybe you found out that the only cartos compatible with your unit are adding up in terms of expense. Maybe your costly batteries are wearing out too often. Maybe you want to try a low resistance carto for more and warmer vapor without overheating and burning up your cartridge or consigning your battery to an early grave. Maybe you just don't consider yourself a smoker anymore, so the idea of looking like you're smoking an analog no longer appeals to you. These are just a few reasons people decide to move along.

Here's the typical progression:

1) E-cig that looks like a cigarette. Small battery, sometimes proprietary cartos that don't allow refilling or proprietary threading that don't allow other refillable cartos to be used. Many have automatic batteries and a LED on the tip to appeal to newbies. This class also doesn't let you use low resistance attys and cartos, since those should only be used on batteries over 450mah or so.

2) The eGo type. Roughly the size of a Sharpie marker, these mimic the form factor of the original Joytech eGo but are now produced under different names, by different manufacturers and in a variety of capacities. All but one are sealed battery units, therefore disposable. They will last from a few months to a year or more, depending on capacity and your vaping habits. Currently, they are available from 650mah up to to 1300mah. This is where the automatic battery idea is dispensed with. Some of them have lights, but they're usually at the button and sometimes perform other functions, such as the Firefly's battery condition indicator, which is located in a ring near the bottom of the unit. These all have much higher battery capacities than the stick or analog look-alikes in #1. Their voltages are usually regulated from 3.4 to 3.7V. They're a good introduction to high quality mods. They can be used with many kinds of tanks, cartos and attys, including low resistance attys and cartos, as well as those specifically designed for them. Some models are the eGo, Riva, kGo, GoGo, Vgo, Firefly and one that takes generic batteries, the E-Power. For someone "graduating" from the mini or analog look-alikes, my personal recommendation is the E-Power for it's replaceable switch and use of easily available generic replacement batteries.

3) Mods: Some people never bother with this step and are perfectly happy to stay at #2. Others skip #2 and go directly to this category. In terms of variety, this is where the vaping world really opens up, so you'll need to do your research to find one that fits you the best. Mods include all those devices, either tube or box shaped, that take one or more non-proprietary batteries. You'll find mods that take very high capacity, high drain batteries of all sizes. They are compatible with the maximum variety of cartos, atty's, tanks, etc. This is also the place where you find the bottom feeders, top feeders and all those beautiful wood PV's like the Reo, Monekyboxx, etc. This is also the point at which a multimeter becomes virtually indispensable.

4) "Super-Mods". This is the category that includes the variable voltage mods, the high dollar mods and all those mods that appeal to people who love to tinker, experiment, try different voltages, etc. The Provari and Darwin are two VV mods in this class.

I don't know what options you have with the V4L. If your carto is getting too hot, you might need something that can keep up with you and won't overheat. So you might want to look at moving to #2 or even #3. You'll have a very large selection of cartos from which to choose. I chain-vape and never have a carto get uncomfortably warm.

Hrm.. Is it weird that I skipped from Step 2 to Step 4? Now I just feel abnormal. :(
 
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