New to vaping & trying to get a better understanding...

[Bonnie B]

My name is Bonnie and I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. A couple months ago I went into my local gas station to buy my Marbs & saw an NJoy starter kit, I had heard of e-cigs before but had never seen one in action, I bought my Marbs along with the NJOY kit. I didn't care too much for the NJOY, it didn't produce enough vapor to satisfy me, & at $19.99 for 5 pre-filled cartos, it was cheaper for me to smoke. I was intriqued by the concept of e cigs, I was hopeful there was something better out there for me so I began to do research via google. Wow! I didn't realize the amount of info & types of e cigs there were out there. Needless to say I was overwhelmed with vaping jargon I'd never heard of such as attys, ohms, mods, variable voltage...what? As I slowly began to sort through the mountain of info, I kept seeing the same recommendation over & over again, that the Volt by Smokeless Image a good e cig for those new to vaping. After checking out their site I decided the Volt was the way to go, Smokeless image keeps it pretty simple which was just what I needed. I ordered my starter kit, 2 batteries (I went with one auto & one manual), 5 pre-filled cartos, & of course the chargers. I added some extras too, I got some blank cartos, 2 XL manual 600mah batteries & 2 clearomizers. I placed my order on a Friday & it was in my mailbox on Monday. I have not smoked since I received my order, that was 2 weeks ago today. I've been quite pleased with my Volts, I get enough of a hit to satisfy me & being a chick I love the choice of colors ( my batteries are pink, purple, sky blue & rainbow). My favorite set-up is my sky blue 600mah battery with a clearomizer. My next point of confusion was e-juice. Looking online the selection was overwhelming, the flavor choices, VG/PG ratios, & of course nicotine content. Initially I bought 2 bottles from Johnson's Creek, one I liked the other I hated. Luckily I discovered there was a vape shop right near my house where I can try before I buy. By the way for anyone reading this in the Cincinnati area I highly recommend Queen City Vapor Shop, the owners Brad & Marilyn are very helpful. They carry Halo, Totally Wicked, Johnson's Creek & Ginger's E juice, plus a variety of e cigs. My favs are Tribeca by Halo, Classy Tobaccy by Ginger's E juice, & I just picked up a bottle of Fireball by Ginger's E juice & it is amazing! I really like supporting locally owned businesses. So far I've been going with 16-18mg of nicotine depending upon the vendor. I haven't had to pick The PG/VG ratio so far because the juice i've been buying hasn't offered that option. Anyway, I now have a pretty good foundation of understanding vaping but there are some things I find confusing. Today I ordered a couple ego batteries from MyFreedomSmokes, some clearomizers & cartomizers. I understand differences in threading, I know my Volts are 808 & egos have ego & 510 threading. I still don't get standard resistance vs low resistance. When I was ordering blank cartos I was confused as to which to order, so I went with SR. Also, single coil vs dual coil, I don't get that either. I hope SR, single coil cartos will work on a 900mah ego battery. I need help in that area & would appreciate any advice anyone has for me.

 

[Thelastoftheonly]

Hi Bonnie!

From what i've learned in my short time, if you don't have a variable volt device, you're gonna want dual coil, 1.5 ohms.
I don't have a variable and tried 2.0 dual coils. very disappointing. I can't imagine using anything higher (2.5, 3.0) let alone using only one coil.
But If you have variable voltage you have greater power and control that can use higher ohms 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 and even single coils to their full potential, bringing out the perfect flavor and vapor of different juices.

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

I agree with the above whole heartedly....you can use a Vivi Nova with the 1.8 coil in it. All my work batts are fixed 3.2 volt eGo and i use the smoketech dual coil mega cartos...they are 1.7 and are vape factories.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

SR means standard resistance, which is around 2.5 ohm five or take. Usually you want LR if your battery does not offer the option of cranking up voltage for more power.

A non-variable-voltage device typically puts out a current of 3.7 volt. Then with a LR carto, say 1.7 ohm, you get 3.7^2/1.7= 8 watts, which is what you should be running a clearo at. For a carto, which i belive takes SR as 3.0 ohm, you get 4.6 watts, which might just be too low.

As far as cartomizers go, most people quite dislike dual coil. I dont care much for cartos, so i havent worked out the physics as to why dual coils are inferior. Nevertheless, i think you should get a variable voltage battery, say an eGo Twist. It offers a range from 3.0 to 4.8 volt, and allows you to play around and find your sweet spot.

 

[Bonnie B]

Thanks everyone for your advice. I've been thinking about getting a variable voltage device but I'm still intimidated by that prospect & feel like that would further add to my confusion. I think I will do some further research on VV devices...So the SR, single coil cartomizers I ordered will function properly on an ego battery? What's the best type of cartos I should buy for a 900mah ego battery? Still confused...

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

My name is Bonnie and I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I still don't get standard resistance vs low resistance. When I was ordering blank cartos I was confused as to which to order, so I went with SR. Also, single coil vs dual coil, I don't get that either. I hope SR, single coil cartos will work on a 900mah ego battery. I need help in that area & would appreciate any advice anyone has for me.

Ok this will be something you will learn quickly because it is key to a good vape...for now and as long as you have a fixed volt devise (volts eGo's ect) you will want "lr" (low resistance)...on a fixed devise it will produce more watts to vape with...for me the perfect vape comes at about 7.5 to 8 watts....soon enough you will get interested in better devises and that will require you to have control over your wattage...welcome to the rabbit hole...your going to have fun learning all this its part of the adventure and its a reward for not smoking analogs any more...keeps your mind occupied instead of craving...

 

[Thelastoftheonly]

So the SR, single coil cartomizers I ordered will function properly on an ego battery? What's the best type of cartos I should buy for a 900mah ego battery? Still confused...

It is super confusing. I did the same thing as you and went with fixed until i know some more.
FYI, 900mah is the Milli-Amp Hours rating, it has to do with battery life, not voltage (power) of the battery.
With an Ego yes, it will function, but no, Standard Resistance is going to be too low to get a good vape.
We should get low resistance to maximize our lack of variable voltage.

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

Thanks everyone for your advice. I've been thinking about getting a variable voltage device but I'm still intimidated by that prospect & feel like that would further add to my confusion. I think I will do some further research on VV devices...So the SR, single coil cartomizers I ordered will function properly on an ego battery? What's the best type of cartos I should buy for a 900mah ego battery? Still confused...

they will function but not as well as the lr would have.
"mah" basically means how long it will last before it needs charging...for me I was a pack of marbs a day and a 900 will last me all day..some say that for a normal vaper we vape 100 mah per hour so 900 mah = 9 hours.

I totally understand how this feels with ALL this info coming at you its alot to take in....just relax your in good hands...this forum is awesome and you will get good advise from most.

 

[EddardinWinter]

You could get a twist and that would not be too bad. You just crank the bottom thing up or down to taste. It is a great first VV device. Not too expensive, simple, not too bulky, etc.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi Bonnie!

From what i've learned in my short time, if you don't have a variable volt device, you're gonna want dual coil, 1.5 ohms.
I don't have a variable and tried 2.0 dual coils. very disappointing. I can't imagine using anything higher (2.5, 3.0) let alone using only one coil.
But If you have variable voltage you have greater power and control that can use higher ohms 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 and even single coils to their full potential, bringing out the perfect flavor and vapor of different juices.

ETA: I stand corrected. While I still learned that running a dual coil carto on a device without variable voltage wouldn't get the benefits of running a dual coil, the reason I was given for this advice was incorrect. After some more research I found a better explanation:

A dual coil carto consists of two coils of the same resistance. They are wired in parallel so the total resistance is half the resistance of either coil.
For example:
The total resistance of the 1.5ohm dual coil is 1.5ohms, but the resistance of either coil it contains is 3ohms. Both coils are actually 3.0ohms individually, together they are not 6.0, they are 1.5ohms

A 1.5ohm carto at 3.7V would be drawing 3.7/1.5=2.47 amps. But the single coil is burning at 3.7^2 / 1.5 = 9.13 Watts, while each coil of a dual coil 1.5ohm carto is burning at (3.7^2/1.5) / 2 = 4.57 watts. You are spliting the power between the two coils.
Although you can certainly get away with it, a 3.7v device is not ideal for a DC cartoi, you should use a 4.5v or better.

This was from the Discount Vapors website

 

[Bonnie B]

Thanks everyone, all of you have been very helpful. So from now on with a fixed volt device, low resistance is the way to go, good to know. Also, from now on before I order something i'm unsure about, I'll head over here to the forum & ask questions before I buy. I knew once I ventured outside of Smokeless Image's site there was gonna be confusion. So far I'm content with a fixed voltage device, what I have has kept me off the analogs, but I keep hearing that VV is the way to go. This whole switch to vaping has been an adventure for me, it's become my new hobby/borderline obsession. I now spend most of my free time online researching stuff about vaping while I vape, lol. It's way more interesting & way more fun than smoking ever was, I get to pick my flavor, I get to pick what color device I want, etc. Thanks again!

 

[niczgreat]

Thanks everyone for your advice. I've been thinking about getting a variable voltage device but I'm still intimidated by that prospect & feel like that would further add to my confusion. I think I will do some further research on VV devices...So the SR, single coil cartomizers I ordered will function properly on an ego battery? What's the best type of cartos I should buy for a 900mah ego battery? Still confused...

Bonnie, if you don't mind a boxy shape, check out the Itaste MVP.
This unit is the easiest Mod in the world to use. You don't even need a charger or extra batteries. It charges using your phones Micro USB jack or the charging cable (included). Battery is inside unit and not changeable.

Just buy the unit it costs $55.00 (Ivape using coupon) to $65.00 Vapor Alley. Just make sure you get the newest version with Ego Threading. Not yet confirmed on IVape.

To get started I did the following
1. I plugged it in to my phone charger for 3 1/2 hours, when it was charged the green light went off.
2. I pushed the Firing Button 3 times, turned it on
3. I pushed the + button up until I found the voltage that was good for me.
4. I vaped for 2 1/2 full days before the light turned yellow meaning battery low.
5. Plugged it into my phone charger Micro USB and went to sleep, woke up and started again.
5. It accepts both Ego and 510 threading so is compatible with anything out there.

I used to recommend the Ego Twist, but this is just as simple if not simpler.

 

[charmschool]

Hi Bonnie & welcome to the forum. Once you get the mechanics figured out, do NOT, under any circumstances go to this thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...show-us-your-girly-pretty-decorated-pink.html. Your obession could hit an entirely new level (she says from first-hand knowledge). Oh, and can recommend several other sites to avoid at all costs, lol!

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Thanks everyone, all of you have been very helpful. So from now on with a fixed volt device, low resistance is the way to go, good to know. Also, from now on before I order something i'm unsure about, I'll head over here to the forum & ask questions before I buy. I knew once I ventured outside of Smokeless Image's site there was gonna be confusion. So far I'm content with a fixed voltage device, what I have has kept me off the analogs, but I keep hearing that VV is the way to go.

Hi Bonnie,
There have been far more people quit cigs with fixed voltage than vv. I very rarely twist my Twists and prefer the Joyetech 3.3 volt and Kgo 3.7 volt. It also makes it much easier for a newbe to learn his/her device. I find no problem for me using 1.7 to 2.4 ohm heads on either standard voltage battery. The standard voltage are cheaper and run longer before needing charged. Good luck

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

No. If you are using a DUAL coil, you are running two 1.5ohm coils.

At 3.7 volts, a dual coil 1.5 ohm will put 3.7 x 3.7 / 1.5 / 2 coils = 4.5 watts per coil. Pretty dismal.

Two coils require lots of power. More voltage than most single-battery non-variable voltage PV's can produce.

with all due respect this is not correct as the coils are not run in series the total resistance is still 1.5...i use a 1.7 dual coil every day on a fixed 3.2 volt eGo...and it blows clouds

you can test this by putting one on a meter and you will see the total resistance is what it is labeled...it will however drain your batt a tad quicker.

 

[The Ocelot]

That's how I learned it, but okay. I prefer single coils anyway.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Actually Ocelot's calculation is correct. The voltage of current running through each coil is the same as the starting voltage, say 3.7 (parallel coils). To create a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto, you use 2 parallel 3.0 ohm coils. Thus, the wattage on each coil is 3.7^2/3=4.5

Totally energy output is the same as running a single 1.5 ohm coil, but that energy is split in half among the 2 coils.

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

Actually Ocelot's calculation is correct. The voltage of current running through each coil is the same as the starting voltage, say 3.7 (parallel coils). To create a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto, you use 2 parallel 3.0 ohm coils. Thus, the wattage on each coil is 3.7^2/3=4.5

Totally energy output is the same as running a single 1.5 ohm coil, but that energy is split in half among the 2 coils.

...i just metered one and it read 1.6...its a dual coil smoketech dual coil mega

how can the energy output (watts be the same)? learn me something

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

What did you measure on your meter?

Like i said, each coil is 3.0 ohm and in parallel they give you a total 1.5 ohm. How do you reckon thats any different than a single coil that is 1.5 ohm?

 

[The Ocelot]

As these last comments were being posted, I edited my first one with info I got off of the Discount Vapors website. I'm so glad I prefer single coil cartos and don't have to think about this stuff.