New Vaper, introduction and question!

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papler

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I'm assuming I should get the Nickel TC replacement coils to take advantage of the mod's TC. Will it be more precise than just standard coils in terms of options?
yes, if you want to try TC then the nickel coils with low resistance (0.15 I believe are your choice. Those are specifically for TC.
If you find out that TC is not for you then you need the normal coils (1.2 or 1.5). those can only be run in VW/VV (variable wattage/variable voltage) mode.

good choice of a setup for starting vaping. godspeed on your journey to become an ex-smoker!
 

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As you can see, everyone has their favorites :)

I recommend that you look to your future needs as well as the present. Vaping is moving away from VV (variable voltage) and VW (variable wattage) to temperature control. eLeaf has come out with the iStick 60 watt temperature control an VW MOD. In VW mode it will handle the Nautilus very well. It has replaceable batteries, but you may need to buy a charger for it. If you decide to try temperature control, you won't have to buy another MOD. If you decide vaping is not for you, it will be easy to sell.

Just something else to consider.
 

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I try to extend their life by recharging at half charge, which almost doubles their life time, 200 to 600 half recharges.
can you prove that? It was my understanding that they should be charged as rarely as possible, because the time at full capacity was damaging to the cells.
Of course,i am not calling you out,i am hoping to be proven wrong.
 

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can you prove that? It was my understanding that they should be charged as rarely as possible, because the time at full capacity was damaging to the cells.
Of course,i am not calling you out,i am hoping to be proven wrong.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/
http://lifehacker.com/5875162/how-often-should-i-charge-my-gadgets-battery-to-prolong-its-lifespan

...etc...

It's well known that recharging your battery when it gets to %50 of it's normal operating charge will enhance the lifespan of the battery. Do a google search yourself on "how to prolong the life of my lithium ion battery" and you'll see. Some sites quote statistics and such, I have read a few, but in the long run, they say the same thing. Which brings me to the point... Ecigs should give you a message that you are going past the suggested recharge time, but still work. Cellphones should do that too.
 
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can you prove that? It was my understanding that they should be charged as rarely as possible, because the time at full capacity was damaging to the cells.
Of course,i am not calling you out,i am hoping to be proven wrong.

Life of a battery especially in our application is all based off temperature and charging/discharging. With the right charger, I am talking a pricey one from the likes of Pila and some other higher end chargers where you can set the charge limit on the battery to 4.1 or 4.15 volts to end the charge cycle will extend their life. Not discharging a battery below 2.5volts before recharging also increases their life. Stressing a battery by going over 60 to 80C constantly or discharging them below 2.5volts is where the most damage is caused to the internal chemistry and rapidly decreases not only maximum capacity and output, how many charge cycles, normal charge cycle is 1 cycle, discharge below 2.5volts or overheat the battery decreases life by 1.05 cycles each time you do so. Most regulated mods shutdown output at 3.0 or 3.2volts as the lowest battery stated they will discharge from, so there unless on a mechanical is one automatic life extension mechanism in place, most vapers generally recharge in the 3.5 to 3.7volts range, I'm in the 3.7volt camp, especially on my mechs, so recharging 0.5volts is far more gentle on the battery than 1.7volts, because as they charge they generate heat when doing so.

I've got early Feb 2014 Sony VTC4's that are now showing their age, their Mah output is not as long as they used to be, the worst of them probably close to 450 1/2 charge cycles on them, they last maybe and hour to 45minutes on a charge in mech with a 1.0 to 1.2 ohm load where my newer ones last a good 3hours or more per charge. I've also killed VTC4's in less than a month, constant cloud chasing super-sub-ohm loads in the 0.18 to 0.25 ohm range and constantly cycling 8 of them on the charger, I would have all 4 bays constantly going on the charger, so that constant abuse I definitely didn't get 250 or even 225 charge cycles on those batteries. When I first started using mods that needed 18650s and other batteries, you can probably still pull up a lot of the threads I was seeing about extending battery life in the search bar on the forums here, that was back in Oct and Nov of 2012 to Jun 2013 era. Do I have hard data charts of my own personal experience, no, I didn't keep that much detailed data per battery, just my experience using techniques I read on the forums here, old RC car forums, and google searches. Have I seen an improvement in battery life by being more conservatively gentle on them, yes, YMMV
 

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The response from Papler was excellent. I will add that it is the mechanicals with no regulation that cause most all battery vents. Either by improperly use overloading the battery or that combined with a stuck fire button.

A regulated mod offers protection circuitry.

My preferred mods have internal batteries. I am tired of dealing with charging batteries. The getting the right battery question is eliminated. Just plugs in like a cell phone. Basically has a high powered cell phone battery in it. I have a evic vt, but this is probably a little much for you. Its kinda heavy.

And yes cell phones have started fires too.

Basically it just takes some common sense. If you feel the mod getting hot below the top the mod its probably overloading. It should be put down. If it feels like the heat is escalating rapidly get it away. This would be very rare.

Basically I'm telling you that batteries don't just explode out of the blue.. They build up tremendous heat before they vent or catch fire. So you probably won't be vaping it before the battery vents, cause you'll barely be able to hold it. Heat is the sign.

This goes for any battery.
 
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