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I got my first eGo kit three days ago, and am loving not smoking. Well, I'm down to about 5 a day, but I'm not buying any more.

First question is, how do you get a stronger taste of vapor? Like I said, I have an eGo (no markings on it, knock-off?) 900mAh battery. I don't know what the Wattage/Voltage is, or what the coil is rated at. I'm using a liquid from the B&M shop I got the kit from. I have ordered a sampler pack of others to try. It seems no matter how hard I puff, or how much vapor I try to pull in, there's not much flavor. Logic tells me, *grunts* MORE POWER!!!! Will a stronger unit provide more taste, or is it simply the liquid that dictates the taste?

While the eGo is good for now at home, I'm looking at getting a VV/VW unit. I'm heading back to college full time to get my bachelors degree, and I can tell now, that the 900mAh batter won't last me long enough. Is there a difference to the quality or dependability of a var. voltage unit versus a var. wattage unit?

I was browsing the few VV units today, and the salesman said the iTaste MVP was the best to get. They said to stay away from the Zmax and any others that they carried. They're reasoning was the current produced on the MVP was constant, but the others was an average of a fluctuating current. Say, if you input 4.0V on the MVP, that's what it runs. If you input 4.0V on the Zmax, the current looks more like a waveform, and the 4.0 is the average of the high and low peaks. Is there any truth to this?

Enough q's for now. I have to go start convincing the little lady to let me spend more money soon. :laugh:
 

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The vamo and the itaste should be nice units to get started on. I wouldn't believe what the guy told you. I have a zmax and a provari. The zmax works just fine. You'll need some battery's. 18350 of you want a smaller profile. 18650 of you want to get the most time between charge. The real challenge will be finding what you like on top of it. Most vapor and flavor? That will be dripping attys imho.

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Variable voltage or wattage will give you the stonger hit. The right tank/delivery system will also be a huge factor in getting flavor, hit and vapor clouds.

My first set-up was an Ego variable voltage and it still rocks. Next step up to an APV would be an MVP or Vamo (bang for the buck here).

Really, a good tank system is where it really is at. I love the Kanger T3's. When the wick is clean and the voltage is right - it is everything I need and then some. I also enjoy the Protank and some simple cartomizers. Don't make it hard on yourself.

I don't know you sending situation so I am assuming frugality: a basic variable voltage battery is key with a reliable tank system will be a great upgrade and simple.
 

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i'm relatively new to this. just got a vamo v3 a couple days ago as my first setup. As far as I can tell you about flavor, some juices need more power to get the full flavor. I have a fruit ejuice thats's great at 7.5 watts and another juice thats great at 11w. The amount of smoke also varies with power. The ratio of pg to vg might also have something to do with it, as vg is much more viscous fluid and might need more umph. A friend had suggested I start out with a VV, as I didn't want to spend a bunch of cash on several models and it would be the most versatile.

The vamo has both variable wattage and voltage, i'm thinking wattage and voltage are just different scales for the same thing.

as to the avg. power thing, I think it might relate to rms mode and another I can't name off the bat. rms mode is what i think the mvp runs at.

hopefully this helps
 
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More voltage helps loads I recently grabbed some usb passthroughs and at 5 volts these thing can burn up a low res coil quick so keep it juicy. But the heat of vape is what I craved so for me it is a win win lots more vapor and warmer vapor are the great things and my batteries get a rest and I only use them on the go since I am on either of the two passthroughs most of the evening.
 

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First question is, how do you get a stronger taste of vapor? Like I said, I have an eGo (no markings on it, knock-off?) 900mAh battery. I don't know what the Wattage/Voltage is, or what the coil is rated at. I'm using a liquid from the B&M shop I got the kit from. I have ordered a sampler pack of others to try. It seems no matter how hard I puff, or how much vapor I try to pull in, there's not much flavor. Logic tells me, *grunts* MORE POWER!!!! Will a stronger unit provide more taste, or is it simply the liquid that dictates the taste?

While the eGo is good for now at home, I'm looking at getting a VV/VW unit. I'm heading back to college full time to get my bachelors degree, and I can tell now, that the 900mAh batter won't last me long enough. Is there a difference to the quality or dependability of a var. voltage unit versus a var. wattage unit?

I was browsing the few VV units today, and the salesman said the iTaste MVP was the best to get. They said to stay away from the Zmax and any others that they carried. They're reasoning was the current produced on the MVP was constant, but the others was an average of a fluctuating current. Say, if you input 4.0V on the MVP, that's what it runs. If you input 4.0V on the Zmax, the current looks more like a waveform, and the 4.0 is the average of the high and low peaks. Is there any truth to this?

Most of the Chinese manufactured VV/VW mods use a cheaper boost circuit processor to acheive higher voltage than say a Provari, which uses a military-grade processor. If viewed on an osciloscope, the Provari's waveform would be a straight line, where the other mods use a pulse wave modulation that provides a pulsing waveform...the rattlesnake noise some people can hear. Not everyone can detect a difference in vaping experience, but many can.

I'm not sure which type of processor the iTaste MVP uses, but I do believe I read that it uses one much like the Provari's. I won an MVP in a raffle last week and picked it up today. I charged it up, and I'm using it as I type. It is a very nice vape with just the i-clear clearomizers it came with.

I like the MVP's form factor; I'm beginning to prefer the box mod style more and more over the tube style APVs. Very comfortable to hold in the hand, nice size, pocketable, rock solid build, and its a nice looking mod. And then there's that extremely long lasting 2600 mah battery. Going 2 - 3 days on one charge sounds amazing. The only question is how long will this battery last, as it is not replaceable.
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You are a recent non-smoker, and new vapor. You very well could have Vapor's Tongue, common among newbies. After years of smoking, you've damaged your taste buds. Flavors may taste off, or be muted. This will pass as your taste buds heal. But in the meantime, understand what it is and that things will only get better with time. Try exhaling some of the vapor through your nose, as your sense of smell assists your tongue in distinguishing flavors.
 
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Hi, all

I got my first eGo kit three days ago, and am loving not smoking. Well, I'm down to about 5 a day, but I'm not buying any more.

Awesome, way to go!

First question is, how do you get a stronger taste of vapor? Like I said, I have an eGo (no markings on it, knock-off?) 900mAh battery. I don't know what the Wattage/Voltage is, or what the coil is rated at. I'm using a liquid from the B&M shop I got the kit from. I have ordered a sampler pack of others to try. It seems no matter how hard I puff, or how much vapor I try to pull in, there's not much flavor. Logic tells me, *grunts* MORE POWER!!!! Will a stronger unit provide more taste, or is it simply the liquid that dictates the taste?

The juice matters, the delivery system matters (battery and tank/carto/clear/atty). I am speaking as someone who does not drip yet, but they say dripping brings the best taste across the board with most juices. You will need an atomizer for that/atty. There are many threads here about those.

You may be experiencing and will continue to experience for sometime something called vaper's tongue. Your tongue/taste buds are affected by the tar in the cigarettes as well as the juice, especially if you are chain-vaping, which mutesflavors of both food and your vape juice. Once you get off cigarettes (analogs) you will find you can discern taste better with improved flavor. Most new vapers experience this.

While the eGo is good for now at home, I'm looking at getting a VV/VW unit. I'm heading back to college full time to get my bachelors degree, and I can tell now, that the 900mAh batter won't last me long enough. Is there a difference to the quality or dependability of a var. voltage unit versus a var. wattage unit?

Look at Vamo's or iTaste, if you want a beginner-level VV/VW device. Those seem to be the most popular.

I was browsing the few VV units today, and the salesman said the iTaste MVP was the best to get. They said to stay away from the Zmax and any others that they carried. They're reasoning was the current produced on the MVP was constant, but the others was an average of a fluctuating current. Say, if you input 4.0V on the MVP, that's what it runs. If you input 4.0V on the Zmax, the current looks more like a waveform, and the 4.0 is the average of the high and low peaks. Is there any truth to this?

I have no clue...I'll leave the experts to answer that one.

Enough q's for now. I have to go start convincing the little lady to let me spend more money soon. :laugh:

Try reminding her of the money you save not smoking and how much better you will smell :p
 

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The only downside is how long will this battery last, as it is not replaceable.

THIS and only this was why I went with a Vamo over the MVP, as at the time it was sorta new tech, and no one knew (or knows, for that matter) how long the battery will last in it. Considering I can buy an 18650 for $12, and get nearly the same vape time out of it...

(plus, there's also the bonus of when I decide that I need the holy grail of a provari (thinking for my 6mo maybe? *eyes the missus*), I'll be able to use those batteries in the provari.)
 

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THIS and only this was why I went with a Vamo over the MVP, as at the time it was sorta new tech, and no one knew (or knows, for that matter) how long the battery will last in it. Considering I can buy an 18650 for $12, and get nearly the same vape time out of it...

(plus, there's also the bonus of when I decide that I need the holy grail of a provari (thinking for my 6mo maybe? *eyes the missus*), I'll be able to use those batteries in the provari.)

Probably going to ruffle some feathers making this statement, but the MVP's battery may very well outlast the Vamo from some of the complaints I've read about its durability, consistancy, and reliability.

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To address the taste of vapor concern. Dripping your flavor will give you better taste of the liquid then using a cartomizer. If you like the idea of using a tank so that you don't have to drip after every 10 hits or so, I would suggest using something like the kayfun. It's a bit pricey, but you won't get as good of flavor anywhere else. Also, try to find some juice companies that produce strong liquids. Again, another pricey option is 5 pawns. Their flavors are really good. I would suggest 'The Gambit'. If you're not looking to spend quite as much on your liquids, go with united vapors. They seem to flavor boost all of their liquids and they are affordable. Try 'The Revolver' if you like sweet fruit flavors, or 'Lady Liberty' if you like savory. Good Luck to ya, let us know how it goes.


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Probably going to ruffle some feathers making this statement, but the MVP's battery may very well outlast the Vamo from the complaints I've read about its durability, consistancy, and reliability.

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My sentiments exactly. Just read a "new post" not 3 mins ago about another Vamo user needing help fixing something. Its a short period of time but my MVP is still a two and a half day vape. I got mine the second week I quit smoking. I dont remember when I quit while typing this, butlook at the bottom of my post and you can see how long its been. Its not my only mod or mech, but its a quality one.

Also, to address a previous post. In what world do you get two days with an 18650 ?
 

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My sentiments exactly. Just read a "new post" not 3 mins ago about another Vamo user needing help fixing something. Its a short period of time but my MVP is still a two and a half day vape. I got mine the second week I quit smoking. I dont remember when I quit while typing this, butlook at the bottom of my post and you can see how long its been. Its not my only mod or mech, but its a quality one.

Also, to address a previous post. In what world do you get two days with an 18650 ?

My 18650 will last even longer than that. If I don't use it. :D

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Also, to address a previous post. In what world do you get two days with an 18650 ?

Actually, I do with my Vapage VMod-XL, a mechanical bottom feed mod. I'm using the same AW IMR 2000 mAh 18650 batteries in it that I use in my extended Provari. These batteries last me one day in the Provari. In the VMod they last nearly a full two days.
 

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As to the Vamo, I've not as yet *knock on wood* had any issues, and I've had mine for about three months so far... (got it one month into vaping), I am of course saying that in no way will it not fall apart on me, I just think that maybe I was one of the lucky ones that got a Vamo that actually went through "decent" QC... from what I've heard there's something like 3-4 companies in china that are producing them, so, yeah, its certainly a roll of the dice.

I usually get about 2 day on the 18650 myself on the Vamo (its a 2250 MaH), sometimes a bit less, all depends on how crazy of a vape-fest I go on too though, and what delivery devices I'm running too. Its likely a matter of some folks will get more, some will get less.

Will I pick up an MVP? Most likely. Will it be before my Vamo rattlesnakes its way to an early grave? I dunno. To paraphase a certain cat's signature.... "play with it till its dead..."

I do like the ability to charge my cell phone if I need to off the MVP, and I like the box mod form factor of it as well. It also seems to be perhaps a bit more pocket friendly than one of the "tube-mod" styles. It has a lot of pluses going for it.

In the long run though, it all comes down to what keep you off the stinkies and happy.. and anything that helps keep me off the stinkies, makes me happy! :)

(Also, luckily, I don't have feathers.)
 

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I can't believe no one suggested this! You may not be able to change your voltage or wattage on your ego battery, but you can use low resistance cartos/clearos! Get some that have around 1.8 Ohms. You will get a warmer throat hit and you can get more power. Many people use mechanical mods that have similar voltage to the eGo battery you are using. They use resistance to get more power.

I do like my Zmax, Vamo, and MVP, but they are not necessary to get a decent vale. You can at least get a better vape while you are convincing your significant other to spend the money on an APV.
 
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