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LeftCatcher

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hybrid RBA with side magnetic thumb button, and designed to use a self modulating quick disconnect power supply that utilizes super-capacitors instead of batteries. self modulates to any coil for 3.7 volts @ 6.1 watts. you could put all the electronics in the power supply, that way people could could buy others if you make variations later.
but with capacitors the charge time is cut to seconds, then you would need chargers car/home.
be sure to use transformers, cause induction is beautiful. just make sure to implement adequate RF shielding for things like radios, wifi, cellphones, etc...


i almost forgot, machine in a hole, or a loop for a lanyard, i hate loosing stuff. ;P


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the PSU would need 2 charging leads protected by diodes, and 2 discharge leads leading to a board, the board should have a chip to detect the ohms of the coil and adjust pulse width modulation as needed, it would have to be smoothed out by another smaller capacitor.
the charging leads could be recessed ing the casing, and the discharge leads could be on the side, i would implement a magnet in the tip for ejection, both from the unit, as well as the charger, as when the capacitor is full it should automatically break the connection with the charger, for safety reasons and longevity.
the whole thing should be water tight, again for safety, and maybe an auto shut down when detecting a chaotic variable resistance (i.e. water.)
the diodes on the charging leads should protect against discharge.
when testing for safety, think of it submerged in someones pocket waist deep in the most conductive liquid you can think of... safety first.
don't make it out of metal, think more pelican case style plastic, except the liquid chambers, stainless steal, durable glass, durable ceramics...

let me know if you want more. ;)
 
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Auntie Mame

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From a personal perspective, I would love to see something small and elegant for when you're in a professional setting or in a setting that's a bit formal. Before I retired, I did a lot of traveling to conferences and to attend meetings in places that are very unlike my real life. For women, the wardrobe is easy, great suits, lovely dresses, good shoes, great handbags. But, great elegant business card wallets are hard to come by-they seem to be geared more for men. I think most gear, in that setting, is more appropriate for men. Most of our gear has a 'contraption' look to it, or cute, or covered with designs. My Kamry x9 would probably work in that setting but there are few others that i think wouldn't be considered odd. And perhaps it would help make the vaping image seem less different if more good quality understated gear were available.
 

SinQuaNon

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hybrid RBA with side magnetic thumb button, and designed to use a self modulating quick disconnect power supply that utilizes super-capacitors instead of batteries. self modulates to any coil for 3.7 volts @ 6.1 watts. you could put all the electronics in the power supply, that way people could could buy others if you make variations later.
but with capacitors the charge time is cut to seconds, then you would need chargers car/home.
be sure to use transformers, cause induction is beautiful. just make sure to implement adequate RF shielding for things like radios, wifi, cellphones, etc...


i almost forgot, machine in a hole, or a loop for a lanyard, i hate loosing stuff. ;P


extended:
the PSU would need 2 charging leads protected by diodes, and 2 discharge leads leading to a board, the board should have a chip to detect the ohms of the coil and adjust pulse width modulation as needed, it would have to be smoothed out by another smaller capacitor.
the charging leads could be recessed ing the casing, and the discharge leads could be on the side, i would implement a magnet in the tip for ejection, both from the unit, as well as the charger, as when the capacitor is full it should automatically break the connection with the charger, for safety reasons and longevity.
the whole thing should be water tight, again for safety, and maybe an auto shut down when detecting a chaotic variable resistance (i.e. water.)
the diodes on the charging leads should protect against discharge.
when testing for safety, think of it submerged in someones pocket waist deep in the most conductive liquid you can think of... safety first.
don't make it out of metal, think more pelican case style plastic, except the liquid chambers, stainless steal, durable glass, durable ceramics...

let me know if you want more. ;)

wow, mmy head is about to explode you have gone far over my head :)
ill get back to you on that after i do some research
thanks for the info!!
 

twgbonehead

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Left-Catcher,

SuperCaps just don't hold anything like the power a battery does. a 1F cap, charged to 5V can only provide 5 amp-seconds of charge before it is fully dead.

SinQuaNon,

I'd like to see a more consistent vaping system. Perhaps one which pre-atomizes a small spray of e-liquid which then passes through a coil to be heated and vaporized. Possibly the spray could travel through a thin-walled quartz tube with the coil wrapped around the outside so that juice never touches kanthal. Temperature control (VT?), instead of VV/VW. Instant flavor-changes (wickless).

And (at least for me) juice that actually tastes just like food (rather than just food aromas).
 

SinQuaNon

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Left-Catcher,

SuperCaps just don't hold anything like the power a battery does. a 1F cap, charged to 5V can only provide 5 amp-seconds of charge before it is fully dead.

SinQuaNon,

I'd like to see a more consistent vaping system. Perhaps one which pre-atomizes a small spray of e-liquid which then passes through a coil to be heated and vaporized. Possibly the spray could travel through a thin-walled quartz tube with the coil wrapped around the outside so that juice never touches kanthal. Temperature control (VT?), instead of VV/VW. Instant flavor-changes (wickless).

And (at least for me) juice that actually tastes just like food (rather than just food aromas).
thanks that is some great advice,
I personally wnat to see something where theliquid is handled too much
 

dice57

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K, in an atomizer, I want a "juice injected" atomizer. Fraking tired of worrying about wicking properties, wick density through or around, come on, heck even in the 60's we only used wicked lighting when at the lake and no AC. I want fuel injected juice control, and I am not talking about a squeeze bottle that's inside the box mod. lmao. Air cooled tanks would be kewl, and of course high amp regulated would be nice, like a 40 amp regulated would be kewl, that would stretch my building skills.
 

LeftCatcher

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Left-Catcher,

SuperCaps just don't hold anything like the power a battery does. a 1F cap, charged to 5V can only provide 5 amp-seconds of charge before it is fully dead.

they do make small 1300 F ultra caps that can sustain longer time frames, and if the discharge is pulse width modulated to 3.7V it can increase the time even more. it's done all the time, just think MORE POWER.
 
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garfiode

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think it would be great to be able to have multiple liquids in the one device, not sure how to do that though :)

With dripping on Rayon fibers, I've found that you can just drip your new flavor over the old one, and it quickly changes over, giving a few interesting hits where the juices have mixed together in the fiber.

Variable temp devices are the next step though, not totally sure how to do it yet, though I have a few ideas in mind.
 
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