Ni200 tips

[Ringomountbatten]

Hi, I have been round the houses a bit the last couple of years, VW to lots of mechs and back to box mods, this has culminated with me picking up a Vapor shark rDNa 40 today. Wire arrives tomorrow, now I've heard tell that it's a pain and needs a little work to get that sucker workable ? Any methods welcomed. Thanks in advance.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

I should be getting my VS40 today and I got both NI200 and Titanium wire on Friday. I decided to see how these wires work compared to the kanthal I usually use. Both are different when coiling than kanthal but I don't think either is any "harder". NI200 is much softer and much less springy. It's like if kanthal were made of clay. And titanium is similar to NI200 but much stiffer...harder to bend but take shaping well. Neither is as hard to get going the direction you want as kanthal. But you can't be as ham-fisted and brutish with either as you can with kanthal. I like it as it seems to add some delicacy and precision to building. I'll post back when I match my coils up with my VS hopefully tomorrow.

 

[Ringomountbatten]

I should be getting my VS40 today and I got both NI200 and Titanium wire on Friday. I decided to see how these wires work compared to the kanthal I usually use. Both are different when coiling than kanthal but I don't think either is any "harder". NI200 is much softer and much less springy. It's like if kanthal were made of clay. And titanium is similar to NI200 but much stiffer...harder to bend but take shaping well. Neither is as hard to get going the direction you want as kanthal. But you can't be as ham-fisted and brutish with either as you can with kanthal. I like it as it seems to add some delicacy and precision to building. I'll post back when I match my coils up with my VS hopefully tomorrow.

Thats interesting, I thought it was going to be a real pain. Looking forward to trying it out. I would be interested to hear how you get on, and your thoughts on flavour of the titanium. Bad news on being Ham fisted, that's my forte !
thanks.

 

[TheGreatApe]

I have been on the fence about getting a DNA40 device. The temp control sounds amazing but I have heard bad things about the ni200. Please post up the results! Thanks

 

[antitux]

I have a lot of friends who are using a DNA40 device, and they absolutely love it. As for working with ni200, they say it's a bit easier than using kanthal. I can tell you that vaping off of one of them is an absolute joy. One of my friends sets his to right at 400-410 (which is right under the temperature that cotton burns), and says he's never had a burnt hit on his russian.

 

[congaman]

Been using a Vaporshark rdna 40 and a kanger mini subtank. 28 ga nickle build. 10 wraps (+-), can't remember the exact wraps now, It's been a week and I'm an old man. Came out at .09 ohm wrapped on a 1/8 drill bit. Wicked with kgd cotton. Running it 420 at 23 watts. 50/50 3mg juice. It's a pretty dog gone great vape! NO dry hits and lots of flavor, good vapor production.Took about half a day for it to break in nicely for me, i consider myself to vape moderately but that's all subjective, right? The nickel wire is a bit more fiddly (need to be easy with it, it's softer than kanthal) but it's not bad at all. Make sure your connections are good and tight other wise you will get fluctuations in your readings and your chip will kinda freak not knowing what to do. Please remember to do your homework before beginning and use caution, as always. Side note, i have many different tanks and drippers so i put a little mark on the ones i've built with nickel as too not get them mixed up. You DON"T want to be firing a nickle build on a device that can not support it!!! Hope this helps a little.

 

[TheGreatApe]

I think you answered this already, but just curious about coils. Do you have better luck with spaced coils? I have seen both spaced and compressed coils and was wondering if there was a difference in the vape

 

[antitux]

You have to space your coils on NI200 builds, from what I've heard.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I've heard they have to be spaced too. But that's not true. Both methods work well in my dna40s

 

[TheGreatApe]

Good to know. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on a DNA40....Heard nothing but solid things about it

 

[Asbestos4004]

The new rDNA vaporshark with the big screen is rock solid. Hard to beat for $189

 

[dubbelmoose]

I was worried about nickel as well, but it actually turned out to not that big of a deal. It's actually easier to tweak your coil and get it looking the way you want, just have to be more gentle than when you're pushing kanthal around. The only tricky part I've run into is changing wicks, it can be hard to get the cotton out without completely destroying the coil but it's possible.

 

[BoomerFZ1]

WOW!!! So I just got mine in the mail and started with my Magnum that I coiled with 28awg NI200. I turned off temp control to make sure my coil was firing nicely and it strait JUMPED to life...center out as pretty as can be. Wicked it up with cellucotton, put some juice on there and the vape is amazing! A very clean vape is the only way I can describe it. Then I plugged in my Lemo Drop with titanium 28awg, filled it with Mother's Milk and again, just a very clean, crisp vape. I want to play around with the wattage and see how that affects everything but so far, I'm impressed. I don't think there's a way to tell whether your using NI200 or Titanium when your vaping but I"m going to keep playing and see what's what. I'm also eager to try Ko Gen Do on here as well...see if there's any noticeable difference. I highly recommend this setup. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play. .

 

[drunkenbatman]

InvisibleHandy will probably find this thread soon, you'll know when all the birds go quiet and exclamation points appear. Don't make sudden movements and you should be fine.

In addition to the threads mentioned above, there's info in these too:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5607-titanium-grade-1-here-stay-me-least.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...t-other-wire-use-dna40-other-than-nickel.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...84-so-drunkenbatman-will-return-my-cat-2.html

 

[congaman]

My coils usually come out spaced no matter what i do or use! lol I agree with Asbestos4004, you can do both, spacing does seem easier at times.

 

[Ringomountbatten]

I've spent a small fortune on some lovely mods over the past 2 years, and I'm loving the quality of the vaporshark, and this is coming from someone who thought VV/VW was a lazy mans vape.

 

[Ringomountbatten]

Really looking forward to that NI arriving now.

 

[invisiblehand13]

So just like DB said I have found this thread!!!! Lol, on a serious note though...there is NO comparison between Ti grade 1 and ni200, they have completely different resistance and composition...ni200 is VERY soft and almost unmanageable, you can't run it out of temp mode or else it is bad for you with the by-products and oxides it releases, re-wicking is horribly complicated and ni200 as almost NO resistance (it takes alot of wraps to get what you want and forces you to use thinner and hard to work with gauges) whereas with Titanium it is a VERY different story, it has higher resistance and can use thicker gauges without ANY problems whatsoever, it is a breeze to re-wick, it keeps it shape VERY well (ni200 does NOT), you can use it out of temp mode with no problems (and has better flavor IMO), and with the titanium you just get better overall results as the thicker gauges connect to the posts in RDA's much better than crappy tiny ni200

 

[Ringomountbatten]

Obviously there's a difference between grade 1 & 2 Ti, but what's the impact on us ? I ask as I can only find grade 2 in the EU. If anyone has a supplier uk based let us know.

 

[Ringomountbatten]

Don't worry, invisible hand has answered all in a previous post.