NICE - Recommendations (British Medical Association)

[daiwelly]

I have just found this link to NICE (BMA) and makes very interesting reading http://publications.nice.org.uk/tobacco-harm-reduction-approaches-to-smoking-ph45:p

 

[Orb Skewer]

I have just found this link to NICE (BMA) and makes very interesting reading http://publications.nice.org.uk/tobacco-harm-reduction-approaches-to-smoking-ph45:p

"[2] At the time of publication (June 2013), only nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) products were licensed by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). A decision from the MHRA on the regulation of other nicotine-containing products (for example, electronic cigarettes and topical gels) was pending. The MHRA has since issued a decision that all nicotine-containing products should be regulated once the European Commission's revised tobacco Products Directive comes into effect in the UK (this is expected to be in 2016). In the meantime, the UK government will encourage applications for medicines licences for nicotine-containing products and will make best use of the flexibilities within the existing framework to enable licensed products to be available. For further details, see the MHRA website.

[3] At the time of publication (June 2013), NRT products were the only licensed nicotine-containing products. The MHRA has since issued a decision that all nicotine-containing products should be regulated once the European Commission's revised tobacco Products Directive comes into effect in the UK (this is expected to be in 2016). In the meantime, the UK government will encourage applications for medicines licences for nicotine-containing products and will make best use of the flexibilities within the existing framework to enable licensed products to be available. For further details, see the MHRA website.

[4] Unlicensed products that are currently being marketed, such as electronic cigarettes, and products new to the market will need a medicines licence once the European Commission's revised tobacco Products Directive comes into effect in the UK (this is expected to be in 2016). In the meantime, the UK government will encourage applications for medicines licences for nicotine-containing products and will make best use of the flexibilities within the existing framework to enable licensed products to be available. For further details, see the MHRA website."

Written with an air of either confidence or arrogance,,,or both

 

[AgentAnia]

I get a "server error" when trying to follow daiwelly's link, but judging by the text you quote, Orb, I'd say: written with an air of desperate hope that if they say it enough, it will become true...

 

[pamdis]

I get a server error too. The message is technical but funny in context.

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A potentially dangerous Request.Path value was detected from the client ).

 

[Orb Skewer]

Tobacco: harm-reduction approaches to smoking Introduction: scope and... PH45

 

[pamdis]

the development of biomarkers that can distinguish between nicotine use and smoking

I like this recommendation the best. When they find the answer to this, then I can argue with my insurance company about the higher rate because my blood tests says I smoke when I actually don't.

 

[rothenbj]

I like this recommendation the best. When they find the answer to this, then I can argue with my insurance company about the higher rate because my blood tests says I smoke when I actually don't.

CO testing will do just that, however, I think the insurance companies like the testing as it's done now. More premiums, less claims.

 

[rolygate]

NICE has no connection with the BMA.

NICE is the national clinical guidance organisation that provides advice to the NHS (the national health service). In terms of an official, national health organisation they are remarkably open-minded and modern in approach (meaning they are only about ten years behind the times).

The BMA is a doctor's union well-known for loony opinions, hypocrisy, publishing blatant lies then having to retract them, and spokespersons exposed for lying in radio interviews. As an example they are one of the loony toons who would like to see alcohol prohibition by cost (except for those who have alternative supply channels from the ordinary person); they promote whisky distillery tours and wine club membership among their own members. They suspend any of their members who criticise the lies and hypocrisy. They are well-known for blatant propaganda against e-cigarettes, and are probably the least-respected 'medical' association in the UK (cf the RCP for example). They act in all respects as pharma pimps and propagandists so it wouldn't be a surprise to learn they receive funding from pharma.

They are the UK equivalent of the WHO and equally conflicted. Their spokesperson is the UK's equivalent of WHO's Bertollini - a person who could not distinguish public health from a banana.