Nicotine causing caughing

[watson_5]

For a couple of months I have been vaping less and less,and smoking more and more, because
it has been causing uncontrollable coughing. Interestingly, the smoking is not causing any
coughing.
To make the story short, I read Danny's blog on nicotine, and how to track down problems.
After finding that pure vg, and pure pg, were not causing the coughing, I tried vaping the nicotine diluted.
I first diluted with pg, and then vg, to the strength I like, 24 mg. Sure enough the coughing came back with
the first hit. I then tried an unopened batch from December, and everything is fine. No coughing, flavor is
great, etc.
At this point I have to think it is the vendors nicotine that is causing it. That's not good, cause I just wasted
about 30 ml's of my favorite recipe. And now I don't trust 240 ml's of nicotine I diluted.
Anyone have any ideas??
Tilo

 

[RocketPuppy]

Whoa. I have never encountered this problem until this past week. I opened a new WL 60mg to mix (with all the precautions) and have had coughing fits for an hour after. Not sure what's up and just pm'd one of my go to people with this question.

Not sure if it's the nic or ...idk

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Whoa. I have never encountered this problem until this past week. I opened a new WL 60mg to mix (with all the precautions) and have had coughing fits for an hour after. Not sure what's up and just pm'd one of my go to people with this question.

Not sure if it's the nic or ...idk

When you open the bottle of juice you made with the 60mg Nic do you get coughing fits or is it just from the higher strength 60mg Nic?

Cheers,
Steve

 

[RocketPuppy]

After re-reading the op's post again, I realized mine had nothing to do with the original question. Sorry op.

Original question: could it be the pg? Many people can't tolerate it. What about trying pure vg juice?

 

[roadie]

For a couple of months I have been vaping less and less,and smoking more and more, because
it has been causing uncontrollable coughing. Interestingly, the smoking is not causing any
coughing.
To make the story short, I read Danny's blog on nicotine, and how to track down problems.
After finding that pure vg, and pure pg, were not causing the coughing, I tried vaping the nicotine diluted.
I first diluted with pg, and then vg, to the strength I like, 24 mg. Sure enough the coughing came back with
the first hit. I then tried an unopened batch from December, and everything is fine. No coughing, flavor is
great, etc.
At this point I have to think it is the vendors nicotine that is causing it. That's not good, cause I just wasted
about 30 ml's of my favorite recipe. And now I don't trust 240 ml's of nicotine I diluted.
Anyone have any ideas??
Tilo

I had uncontrollable coughing from a tickle in my throat but it went away after a week or two. Just a transition for me..... Maybe for you too? I was at about 18mg.

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[Nermal]

The nicotine is more strongly adsorbed in the lungs by smoking than vaping. One of the little things it does is paralyze the cilia in the lungs, causing all kinds of pollutants to remain in them. Switch to vaping, which is only slightly adsorbed by the lungs, and those cilia begin to recover. Same thing happens when you quit smoking cold turkey. I suspect this is happening with you and that you should drop the cigarettes again and continue vaping till your lungs are finally cleaned up as well as can be done.

This is what I suspect, and it seems to account for all your known events.

 

[watson_5]

Thank You everyone.
To clear things up, I never vaped the 60 mg. Originally the juice was 100 mg diluted down
and then mixed into a recipe. The 60 mg was the last order from the vendor, diluted down
and then mixed into my favorite recipe.
I've been vaping about a year, and the coughing has only been going on the last couple of
months.
Nemal has a great point. No matter the coughing, I realize I need to stay away from
the stinkies. That can only make things worse.
I'm just really surprise that it started quickly, and ended just as fast.

 

[Nermal]

Uh oh. I didn't realize you had been vaping that long. If you quit smoking a year ago, the associated coughing should have ended within a few months. We might have a different problem, but yes, do stop smoking again, and go from there.

 

[dannyv45]

For a couple of months I have been vaping less and less,and smoking more and more, because
it has been causing uncontrollable coughing. Interestingly, the smoking is not causing any
coughing.
To make the story short, I read Danny's blog on nicotine, and how to track down problems.
After finding that pure vg, and pure pg, were not causing the coughing, I tried vaping the nicotine diluted.
I first diluted with pg, and then vg, to the strength I like, 24 mg. Sure enough the coughing came back with
the first hit. I then tried an unopened batch from December, and everything is fine. No coughing, flavor is
great, etc.
At this point I have to think it is the vendors nicotine that is causing it. That's not good, cause I just wasted
about 30 ml's of my favorite recipe. And now I don't trust 240 ml's of nicotine I diluted.
Anyone have any ideas??
Tilo

You are correct it is the nicotine. Bet you got it from Myfreedom. I just recently resolved the exact same coughing problem as you (Kinda like a pin caught in your throat) by increasing my VG to 65vg/35PG then add 4-6% saline solution. Cough completely went away. My NIC was myfreedom.

you can get saline at any pharmacy. ask for a .09 saline solution.

You can also add it to what you've already made and it should still help a lot.

 

[watson_5]

Great to see you here Danny. It was your blog that helped me narrow it down.
Actually it was RTS nicotine. The nicotine causing it was ordered in November.
The December Nicotine isn't causing it; but I also diluted my vg with saline,
so now all of my vg has saline. I have another bottle of nicotine that isn't
the December batch. I'll mix some up with the new vg, as I'm not sure if
the harsh batch had the saline in it. In any event, I think it is time to
maybe order from Nude Nic. Thanks for the heads up on Myfreedom.
I think one of my first batches was from them. I found their nic to be
"peppery" and haven't ordered from them since.
Tilo

 

[RocketPuppy]

Mine was from WL. Saw no mention of problems with them. Hear anything different?

 

[watson_5]

No, just about everything I've heard about WL has been great.

 

[MissAmerican]

I had a bottle of nic once that was supposed to be 60mg but suspected it might have been mislabeled and was a much higher mg or was just a bad batch because when first opened it it burned my eyes and nose like a strong pepper would. I still made a juice with it and had a coughing fit. Try lowering your nicotine, you might be surprised at how low you can go with it and still get a good throat hit. Or even just lower it until you can get a different nicotine to use instead.

 

[watson_5]

Thanks MissAmerican. I just received my order of Bromothymol Blue from WL.
That would be another great thing to look at. I'll try both testing the nic level
and simply cutting a recipe in half.
Thanks for the ideas

 

[LoveVanilla]

And please do share test results. thnks

 

[aliceisinwonderland]

Howdy Folks! I am transitioning to fulltime vaping. Coming off of virginia slims with organic mint oil on the paper of the entire cig. Zero coughing. When vaping I get a tickle in my throat right around the bronchial tubes. I am vaping carts (the old fashioned kind with the cotton inside). Am also vaping tanks bottom coil glass new brew. I have tried switching everything up. I put some unused filter material in the drip tip and the coughing ans tickle stopped! Only problem is the harder draw ends up wicking e-juice into the mouthpeice (drip tip).What do y'all think? Good luck!

 

[Crunktanium]

What do y'all think? Good luck!

Not what I think but what I know it's the alcohol based flavoring that is causing this. I can't handle these flavors without long steeps or heavy mixing myself. Everyone I know that vapes has no problems and even some smokers who never vaped. So if your getting that tickle in the throat not to be mistaken with throat hit which we get from cigarettes. Try PG based flavors and if you must use Alcohol based ones give them a week or two at the very least to work their magic. Some people will air the juice with caps off but that just dilutes the flavor with evaporation of the Alcohol.

 

[dead not sleeping]

Mine was from WL. Saw no mention of problems with them. Hear anything different?

WL mixes their nicotine to order, so its fresh when you get it.

dns

 

[watson_5]

I have only recently received my bromo blue, and when I tested the nic it almost immediately changed color.
I am waiting on acid from WL to double check my nic level. I make sure to mix well before storing; but now
I am beginning to wonder. Days of shaking the nic, and waiting on the acid, and I'll try again.
Thanks for all the thoughts everyone.

 

[watson_5]

Wingsfan, I haven't vaped anything 60 mg/ml. All of it has been diluted down to 24 mg.
Now what really confuses me. I am waiting patiently on my order from WL. In the
meantime, I have tested both bottles using vinegar, and what I think is .12 sulfuric acid
from the auto store. Both bottles, using either acid, change immediately yellow. Less than
1/2 ml for changing the color indicates ridiculously low nicotine????
This is really boggling the mind.
Terry