Nicotine in E-Cigs

[AnthonyB]

I recently read in an article that cited a study, that the nicotine delivery in a 16 mg liquid is negligible and that inhaling on an e-cig is like inhaling on an unlit cigarette. Is this true? When vaping an e-cig soon after you stopped smoking cigarettes were you getting a nicotine fix or would you have to vape in large quantities to get any kind of a nicotine hit?

Anthony

 

[markfm]

You definitely get some nicotine. I did switch to a 24 cartridge to get a more equivalent effect, relative to Marlboro reds.
I don't vape in large quantities at a given time, but overall more frequently (fewer puffs per time compared to smoking a full cigarette). Probably due to the lack of MAOI in vaper -- the "hit" doesn't last as long.

 

[THE]

It's exactly the opposite
I get twice the nicotine vaping that I could possibly get out of a burning cigarette
So much so that I sometimes feel that "nicotine rush" brand new cigarette smokers get

 

[DerikC]

I'm new to this, but I have not once gotten that rush from an e cig. In fact I've felt guilty about using 36ml juice lately. I'm still trying to quit cigs completely, I've tried to go without a cigarette at all twice and only gotten to two days. Today is my first time reaching day three. Whatever I do I can't get the ecig to be as satisfying as the real deal. How

 

[cliff5550]

Wife and I completely dropped cigarettes on the very first day we got our first ecigs. Started out at 24mg strength and haven't changed. I had smoked for 45 years and was at 2-3 packs a day when I began vaping. If I wasn't getting nicotine this would have never worked.
We are among the lucky ones who have never craved a cigarette since we began vaping, and it's now been over one year. Some are like us, some do both ecigs and cigarettes, and, it seems, vaping doesn't do it for a few people.
It's worth the effort.

 

[voltaire]

I recently read in an article that cited a study, that the nicotine delivery in a 16 mg liquid is negligible and that inhaling on an e-cig is like inhaling on an unlit cigarette. Is this true? When vaping an e-cig soon after you stopped smoking cigarettes were you getting a nicotine fix or would you have to vape in large quantities to get any kind of a nicotine hit?

Anthony

The short answer is NO, it's definitely not true. (unless you're using crappy and ill-prepared ecig hardware, have no clue what you're doing since you've never vaped before and have no motivation to learn how, and just want to get out of the lab and away from the researchers so you can go smoke some cigarettes)

The VERY long answer is in this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/69409-cnn-com-today.html
...where the author and head scientist (Dr. Thomas Eissenberg) of the very study you refer to participates in the discussion. Towards the end, we convince him to try a better performing ecig himself and test his urine for nicotine metabolites (cotinine) and he admits that he did in fact get considerable nicotine from vaping, even though it was his first time vaping and he probably didn't even know how to use the ecig and inhale properly.

Here's an excerpt of his relevant post: (To save you the time of reading that whole long thread)

I would also like to report some results from some personal experimentation. At the suggestion of some of you, I purchased a KR808D-1 with various strength cartridges (Cowboy flavor). I used it last night (18 mg cartomizer) and tested my urine with Nicalert strips this morning. Result? 5/6. Clearly, this result is consistent with recent nicotine exposure. The confusing thing is this: I used the device while hooked up to a heart rate monitor which an observer was watching and I was not. My heart rate showed negligible changes during my many puffs on the device (it was one with a manual switch, which I was pressing; I was using the USB pass through; yes I got vapor, and yes I inhaled – quite the throat hit, I can assure you). Obviously I am not going to write a paper about this single experience, and there is much to be learned, but I certainly agree with the many of you who suggested that these devices may very well behave differently than the ones that I tested.
Tom E.

Direct link to his full post

 

[voltaire]

I'm new to this, but I have not once gotten that rush from an e cig. In fact I've felt guilty about using 36ml juice lately. I'm still trying to quit cigs completely, I've tried to go without a cigarette at all twice and only gotten to two days. Today is my first time reaching day three. Whatever I do I can't get the ecig to be as satisfying as the real deal. How

There are other substances in tobacco besides nicotine that have MAOI (anti-depressant) effects that you are probably missing. If you find yourself unable to quit smoking from vaping alone, you should definitely try some snus, snuff, or dissolvable tobacco to supplement the vaping. You can find a wealth of information and recommendations in the Smokeless Tobacco forum:
Smokeless tobacco - E-Cigarette Forum

 

[AnthonyB]

Wife and I completely dropped cigarettes on the very first day we got our first ecigs. Started out at 24mg strength and haven't changed. I had smoked for 45 years and was at 2-3 packs a day when I began vaping. If I wasn't getting nicotine this would have never worked.
We are among the lucky ones who have never craved a cigarette since we began vaping, and it's now been over one year. Some are like us, some do both ecigs and cigarettes, and, it seems, vaping doesn't do it for a few people.
It's worth the effort.

Glad to hear it Cliff. I was going to start low with 11 mg cartridges but once I had done a bit of research decided that I would try a range of strengths with the average being 24 mgs. I believe my best chance for quitting cigarettes is to get a little too much nicotine from an e-cig than not enough. Depending on how I go, I might drop the strength on my next batch of liquids and carts.

It is interesting how varied the responses are to this question because in other posts I've read some people said they were not sure they were getting any nicotine at all and others, like yourself, speak of quitting cigs immediately after commencing vaping and how the nicotine they are getting is sufficient to abate cravings.

Anthony

 

[AnthonyB]

The short answer is NO, it's definitely not true. (unless you're using crappy and ill-prepared ecig hardware, have no clue what you're doing since you've never vaped before and have no motivation to learn how, and just want to get out of the lab and away from the researchers so you can go smoke some cigarettes)

The VERY long answer is in this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/69409-cnn-com-today.html
...where the author and head scientist (Dr. Thomas Eissenberg) of the very study you refer to participates in the discussion. Towards the end, we convince him to try a better performing ecig himself and test his urine for nicotine metabolites (cotinine) and he admits that he did in fact get considerable nicotine from vaping, even though it was his first time vaping and he probably didn't even know how to use the ecig and inhale properly.

Here's an excerpt of his relevant post: (To save you the time of reading that whole long thread)

Direct link to his full post

Thanks Voltaire,

I have recently put in my purchase for a Kr808 with Vapor4life and the carts I ordered range between 8 and 24 mgs. I also ordered the Cowboy and Wowboy carts. Can't wait for it to arrive!

Anthony

 

[THE]

The way I know for sure that I get nicotine from these is ... I wake up .. In withdrawl .. GRR .. I vape, and I am not longer .. GRR .. that's proof positive, believe you me.