I received my 150MG 1,000ml nic/vg last week and I poured half into a clear bottle for dispensing.. I noticed the color was pinkish very much so. I diluted with straight vg to 24mg just to taste and its stout. I vaped it straight and it burns throat and gives my esophagus a heartburn sensation. The smell is very chemical. Needless to say I wasn't nic'ing out for hours after the experiments but what I am curious about is if this is the normal description of good nic/vg?
Nicotine/VG dillute color, smell, viscosity, taste?
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Nope!
They should be clear as water or a very slight yellowish tinge to it. There was a batch that was around this past summer from an extremely reliable source that had a pink tinge to it. It was tested safe and it was caused by the extraction method where it left residual extraction chemicals in the liquid.
They should be clear as water or a very slight yellowish tinge to it. There was a batch that was around this past summer from an extremely reliable source that had a pink tinge to it. It was tested safe and it was caused by the extraction method where it left residual extraction chemicals in the liquid.
Dude, let's be honest here. Cigs kill selectively, and after a long exposure. It's a statistical thing, and that's why it's a gamble that many people take. But there are many compounds that will always do damage, and very quickly. So I wouldn't argue the old "cigarettes are worse" when faced with something dangerous. I am drip-vaping a 30 mg/ml 60% PG 40% VG unflavored mix right now, and while there's a bit of throat irritation (I guess they call it TH), the only taste I detect is the (dubious but faint) flavor of heated chinese metal and wick workmanship. Now, I have no certainty my supplier sent me the spec'ed 100 mg/ml PG solution, so it could be weaker, but I rather think not. If your nicotine solution has a distinct irritating quality, or taste, I would send it back, it's just not worth it. It's bad enough that we have no idea about the typical flavorings, and cases like the butter flavorings are proof of how the unexpected can kill, so if you are starting with a base that has a chemical taste, you are way out on a limb you don't need to be on. That's my view.
Well I think why mine was like that now is cause it was so concentrated with nicotine. It was 150mg from the supplier and I had to cut it down to 24mg but I think it needed to be mixed wayyyy better then what I did before I started cutting it in smaller amounts
I don't think it's a good idea to use high potency VG because thick, undiluted VG mixes poorly with other ingredients... it's possible to have "hot spots" of pure nicotine in it. Don't want to encounter that.
Dude, good luck. If we don't hear from you after this we'll all be sending positive thoughts.
Dude, good luck. If we don't hear from you after this we'll all be sending positive thoughts.
LOL yeah I had it sent off when I received it to a toxicologist to be tested and get a COA on it. I think what I sent him was not fully mixed good enough.
My question is why in the world would you want to handle 150mg nic in the first place?! Does anyone bother to read the stickies and warnings in the DIY forums?
Bovi, it's not that strange, if you handle 50 mg/ml stuff; it's just more concentrated, cheaper to ship, handy to store, you know, more concentrated ;-)
And more dangerous if you spill it on you!!! Here in the DIY forum we don't recommend new DIYers using that high of a nicotine level and try to discourage it. May I suggest that you and everyone else giving advise in this forum please read the stickies at the top of the threads first, especially this one?
Who's giving advice? You need to put me in my place because she asked a question, a rhetorical one, and I dared utter some replies? If her question was not rhetorical, then i suppose we should see what his reply is, but I imagine his reason was shipping costs. But, Dawg, what's with the frequent moralizing, confrontational and condemning tone on this forum?
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Just my 2 cents. I don't see anything wrong with handling 150mg nicotine. I take it that we are all adults here and that the OP had decided he could
handle the concentration. I do agree with the post that suggested getting a PG solution, I don't know why they offer the larger quantities in VG.
I feel fine handling 100mg nic, its also easier and cheaper for me, but I wont change the oil in the car myself, to me its more of a danger.
handle the concentration. I do agree with the post that suggested getting a PG solution, I don't know why they offer the larger quantities in VG.
I feel fine handling 100mg nic, its also easier and cheaper for me, but I wont change the oil in the car myself, to me its more of a danger.
Yes my question was rhetorical. I should have been more polite and just linked the safety stickie as GoodDog did. Lately I have seen a lot of posts that sound as if some do not understand the dangers of handling nicotine. I hope that anyone handling high mg nic understands what a stray drop can do to a child or a pet. I just want folks to be safe and responsible.
Yo, Rex, fellow scoff-law user of unapproved drug delivery devices, fellow nicotine addict, be careful with your 15% nicotine solution, 'cause it's dangerous to those who don't have a tolerance, and animals, and some people here worry about you and your kids and pets. So don't spill any, hurry and dilute it with some glycols and artificial flavors and pina colada mix and stuff and heat it in plastic foam to where it cooks and vaporises, and be responsible --inhale it, ok? Oh, and read all the "stickies".
Come on, folks, let's lighten up a bit, no?
Oh, and read all the "stickies".Come on, folks, let's lighten up a bit, no?
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PLEASE becareful with that stuff. 50mg of nic can kill a small child. Yes, I said kill. Keep kids and critters away while you're mixing it. When handling it, wear gloves, and a smock if you have one. Clean up all messes and drips. Just be safe is what everyone is trying to tell you. Nicotine should be clear or slightly yellow. Since yours is pink, I would contact your supplier and ask if you can return it. I know a vendor that had the same problem, MFS, assured everyone it was safe but he would also accept a return if you disagreed with it.
Again, please becareful. We don't want to have to read an obituary left on ECF from a loved one. Okay?
Again, please becareful. We don't want to have to read an obituary left on ECF from a loved one. Okay?
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Yo, Rex, fellow scoff-law user of unapproved drug delivery devices, fellow nicotine addict, be careful with your 15% nicotine solution, 'cause it's dangerous to those who don't have a tolerance, and animals, and some people here worry about you and your kids and pets. So don't spill any, hurry and dilute it with some glycols and artificial flavors and pina colada mix and stuff and heat it in plastic foam to where it cooks and vaporises, and be responsible --inhale it, ok?
Come on, folks, let's lighten up a bit, no?
I'm not sure why you seem to follow me around and mock my posts about safety but it's getting old. I apologized for not being very polite to the OP, no need for you to continue stirring it up.
High concentrations of nicotine in VG will turn it pinkish, it's a natural reaction.
As for this back and forth, higher concentrations are inherently more dangerous and the extra shipping is usually not much. A liter of 150mg/ml would contain 150,000mg of nicotine, and even if you go through 5ml of 36mg a day it will last you well over 2 years (longer than the expiration of PG and VG).
No need to be snide when deadly toxins are in the mix.
As for this back and forth, higher concentrations are inherently more dangerous and the extra shipping is usually not much. A liter of 150mg/ml would contain 150,000mg of nicotine, and even if you go through 5ml of 36mg a day it will last you well over 2 years (longer than the expiration of PG and VG).
No need to be snide when deadly toxins are in the mix.
Following you around? To mock you? You can't be serious! If anyone is following, it's not me - I was here first, ironically concerned Rex's solution might not be safe!
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