Njoy King? Looks very cool

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WinstonSmith

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Also, there's no rule sayng njoy has to match analog prices. Typically, companies try to maximize revenue - if consumers are willing and able to pay a premium for an electronic that accurately simulates an analog, then unfortunately for us, that's the way it will probably be.
I believe if you are going to advertise your product as "Costs Less Than Regular Cigarettes" and equivalent to 2-packs then those two statements ought to be true or at least in the ballpark. So until they stop advertising it as such, then they do need to come down on the price so that it matches their claims. If they want to sell their product as "costs 8x more than regular cigarettes" and the equivalent of 1/4 a pack, then they have every right to do so if they are open about it and do not pepper their adverts and product information with blatantly false claims of how long it lasts and real world cost equivalents. Regardless of whether or not Blu and everyone else do it, no reasonable person that has used their product would consider their claims to be even remotely true. They didn't have to make any claims of cost or cigarette equivalence. They could make no claims at all and people could use their own judgment, at least then they wouldn't be lying. There are no rules on pricing...deception is another thing.
 

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I believe if you are going to advertise your product as "Costs Less Than Regular Cigarettes" and equivalent to 2-packs then those two statements ought to be true or at least in the ballpark. So until they stop advertising it as such, then they do need to come down on the price so that it matches their claims. If they want to sell their product as "costs 8x more than regular cigarettes" and the equivalent of 1/4 a pack, then they have every right to do so if they are open about it and do not pepper their adverts and product information with blatantly false claims of how long it lasts and real world cost equivalents. Regardless of whether or not Blu and everyone else do it, no reasonable person that has used their product would consider their claims to be even remotely true. They didn't have to make any claims of cost or cigarette equivalence. They could make no claims at all and people could use their own judgment, at least then they wouldn't be lying. There are no rules on pricing...deception is another thing.

Toyally agree with you. But, njoy's claim is even further off than those who advertise a cartomizer being equal to a pack of cigs. What NJOY is saying is like joyetech saying for the eroll, "one full charge is the equivalent of 2 packs of cigs"; Or, like Blu saying about their smallest ecig "one full charge is the equivalent of 2 packs of cigs". The NJOY king is about the same size as these ecigs, around 90 mah. Now, if either of these companies said that about their ecig, what would be the response on ECF?
I can tell you, because I have done this, after the battery goes on the NJOY King, let it sit overnight. You will be able to get another 2 puffs from it. So, when the battery goes, the cartomizer is not empty.
 
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If they want to sell their product as "costs 8x more than regular cigarettes" and the equivalent of 1/4 a pack

Haha, that gave me a good laugh, it'd be hilarious if they actually did that. I totally agree with "They didn't have to make any claims of cost or cigarette equivalence." - that is where I fault them as well.
 

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I don't quite get this one, but when I called and asked a rep. why my King died so quickly, she told me that it should never be near a cellphone! I asked how far it should be kept from them and she said at least a foot.

What in the heck would this have to do with battery life? :confused:
Ya that smells like some BS to me. But heck who knows.
 

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Okay-I did get my replacement battery from Njoy. How long did the battery last. I used it for work last night. I opened it at 3pm. I went outside for 2 puffs. Later I went outside for 3 small breaks. I could only take 2=3 minute breaks due to my patients being demanding last night. 10-15 puffs per each session. I did use it on my return home. Less than 14 minutes. No chain vaping occurred since I have my other PV as always. I went to use it this morning. I did get 2 puffs and the blinking light of doom occurred.

Final thoughts: I could never afford to use this as a replacement. If they could develop a longer lasting battery it would be nice.
I don't like the short lived life on this disposable. I have had disposables last 2 days for me in the past.

On a positive note: The menthol bold taste is excellent. This was much better than my first Njoy I paid for. I even could taste a ashy taste.

I suppose I will try again in only emergency. I do hope they can develop a long lasting batt for this. I am going to take it apart to see how much fluid is left in the cartomizer.
 

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If they make it any bigger or heavier, I won't want it.
I'll just use my eRoll instead.

If they make it a lot cheaper, I could see it being my only exclusive vaping device.

NJoy needs to understand that they can grab the future of vaping.
But their pricing is absurd at this point.

I agree. My brother is a smoker that only really vapes at work. I gave him the free one I got in the mail, after I had hit it a few times. He really loved it. He said he thought he could use it to actually completely quit smoking.
Then I told him how much they were....end of that conversation.:facepalm:

They are nice little pv's, but WAY overpriced.
 

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I don't quite get this one, but when I called and asked a rep. why my King died so quickly, she told me that it should never be near a cellphone! I asked how far it should be kept from them and she said at least a foot.

What in the heck would this have to do with battery life? :confused:

WHAT? Are you saying their wonderful customer service did not volunteer to send you a replacement?
 

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If they make it any bigger or heavier, I won't want it.

What's the general consensus here on a disposable that's the same length but a slightly larger diameter, with say 50% to 75% better battery life....do you think you could live with the slightly larger diameter?
 

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What's the general consensus here on a disposable that's the same length but a slightly larger diameter, with say 50% to 75% better battery life....do you think you could live with the slightly larger diameter?

I would be fine with such terms...

I am puffing an Njoy now (a menthol gold only because QT was out of the bold) because I fried my cartomizer earlier. I'm not a huge fan of tobacco flavors, but this is okay. I like that I can puff it as I type (and that it isn't broken... lol)

If they were cheap, I would buy tons of them... but meh... I'll be back on my vamo as soon as I get more carts.
 

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If they make it any bigger or heavier, I won't want it.
I'll just use my eRoll instead.

On the other hand, if they make it a lot cheaper, I could see it becoming my exclusive vaping device.

NJoy needs to understand that they can grab the future of vaping.
But their pricing is absurd at this point.

100% spot on! Why cant Njoy see this!

Make the Kings like $1-2 each and they will corner the vaping market!
 

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What's the general consensus here on a disposable that's the same length but a slightly larger diameter, with say 50% to 75% better battery life....do you think you could live with the slightly larger diameter?

I agree w/ what 'DC' said earlier, it's the price that's the complaint, keep the batt how it is, lower the price.
 

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I agree w/ what 'DC' said earlier, it's the price that's the complaint, keep the batt how it is, lower the price.

I feel fairly certain that NJOY isn't going to get to the price everyone here is wanting anytime soon - I think it's entirely possible they literally can't, and even if they can, my bet is that they'll choose to stay at a higher price point. I think retail locations are their preferred channel so there's two levels of profit taking happening, and unless they decide to heavily undercut their retailers via discounted website sales, I think we'll be stuck in this general price neighborhood for quite some time. Maybe they'll drop it to 3 for $15, but that's still a long way off what people are hoping for.

(This is all speculation on my part of course.)
 

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Did anyone see this article about the NJoy King?


Unregulated, Addictive, And Enticing: E-Cigarettes Suck In Smokers But Risks Remain

"We use a very well-regarded tobacco flavorist from North Carolina, so it has a terrific aroma and flavor to it," NJOY's Chief Marketing Executive, Andrew Beaver tells us. "Our proprietary technology is extraordinary. Everything about our product—from how hard you have to draw on it, to how it tastes, to how it feels in your hand, to how you inhale, exhale, is meant to replicate the experience of smoking without all the things you don't like."
 
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