No battery mod? Possible?

[jiff]

Well, I got to thinking just now about those flashlights that you shake to power an LED, and got to thinking would that same concept be able to be used for an e-cig mod? I believe they use a magnet that when shaken and passing up and down passed a copper coil produces the electricity to power the LED.. Anyway I'm sure someone here will know what I'm talking about...

Anyone else think this may work as a viable mod that uses no battery at all?

It could be "The Shake and vape".

 

[sjohnson]

Those flashlights actually use a small rechargeable battery. Shaking the flashlight does produce some current, used to charge that battery. However, I'm sorry to have to state that the amount of electricity generated is so small that you'd have to shake a loooooong time before you could use it to vape. Powering an efficient, single LED is one thing. Powering an inefficient, power-hungry atomizer is another.

 

[Sci]

It's like the ones you crank. You may get the voltage, but not the current.
I've some solar panels will charge a battery, but not enough current to power an atty. I've also got some that supposedly put out 2A each, but only like .7v. I've hooked an atty to both kinds with no joy... I suppose if you hooked enough of any of this up in parallel, you could produce the current, but the container might be a little large.

On second thought, I wonder how many cranks/shakes it would take to fully charge one of the batteries we use?

 

[Connman]

Well that`s exactly what I`ve been messing with some is those crank Flashlights. I`ve heard over and over it won`t work but I want to know why? But then I`m off topic with this question as it has a battery involved.
I know a no battery mod.

Magnifying glass powered to save the ants.

 

[jiff]

Aw, I guess this is a no-go then... A shame... Woulda been nifty.

 

[zelda]

When the original e-cig was developed they looked at using what's inside a Glade wisp air freshener - forget right now what its called. Back when I joined here some members discussed trying to make a vaporiser out of it. No one ever tried it but I've always wondered if it was possible.

 

[Sci]

Well that`s exactly what I`ve been messing with some is those crank Flashlights. I`ve heard over and over it won`t work but I want to know why? But then I`m off topic with this question as it has a battery involved.
I know a no battery mod.

Magnifying glass powered to save the ants.

Have you metered one to see what it puts out?

Jiff: Never say no...

 

[Sci]

When the original e-cig was developed they looked at using what's inside a Glade wisp air freshener - forget right now what its called. Back when I joined here some members discussed trying to make a vaporiser out of it. No one ever tried it but I've always wondered if it was possible.

It's an atomizer isn't it? Kind of like the ones used with perfume? It produces a mist instead of vapor, no heat. Now if the pump could be used... No, I've got enough stuff to tear apart first.

 

[Quick1]

Well that`s exactly what I`ve been messing with some is those crank Flashlights. I`ve heard over and over it won`t work but I want to know why?

because you would turn into Mr. Olympia before you cranked enough to charge one of our batteries for a decent vape session..

 

[Connman]

Have you metered one to see what it puts out?

Jiff: Never say no...

This energizer one with 3 LED`s has a 3.7 volt 80mAh battery in it. The wires after the board going directly to the LED`s are reading 3 volts or near there. I was just thinking that if I drop a better battery once
Madvapes gets those 350mAh back in stock and run direct off that to a switch then atty/battery connector. Just how much would I have to crank to keep the battery up to snuff.

Well I`m thick headed and will find this out the hard way. Plus when you live in Hurricane territory and might need a good no electric back up this may work. Crank puff, crank puff.

 

[Sci]

This energizer one with 3 LED`s has a 3.7 volt 80mAh battery in it. The wires after the board going directly to the LED`s are reading 3 volts or near there. I was just thinking that if I drop a better battery once
Madvapes gets those 350mAh back in stock and run direct off that to a switch then atty/battery connector. Just how much would I have to crank to keep the battery up to snuff.

Well I`m thick headed and will find this out the hard way. Plus when you live in Hurricane territory and might need a good no electric back up this may work. Crank puff, crank puff.

Lol. I know about the 'canes. We get a bunch here. If all else fails, maybe it could be hooked to an exercise bike or a mini windmill.

Have you checked the current output when you're cranking it?

 

[zelda]

It's an atomizer isn't it? Kind of like the ones used with perfume? It produces a mist instead of vapor, no heat. Now if the pump could be used... No, I've got enough stuff to tear apart first.

Someday when I have time I'm going to mess around with it. It does produce a mist out of liquid maybe it could produce vapor.

 

[Sci]

Someday when I have time I'm going to mess around with it. It does produce a mist out of liquid maybe it could produce vapor.

It's forcing the liquid out of a small hole. If it had some way to heat the liquid. Kind of like a fog machine. I can see potential with this. An auto pump juice box.

Connman: I pulled apart one of the cranks I have(small one). It looks like a size N battery in there. I get 3v @ the LEDs when I'm cranking. If I just crank it a few times & meter it, it's around 2.8v.

 

[jiff]

Heh, I like the crank idea..... Excercise while getting nic fix... Just make sure there is two cranks for both hand use or one arm is going to be a lot buffer than the other and people will be wondering just what yer crankin all the time.

 

[Raenon]

Super capacitors charge more efficiently, and discharge more completely than chemical batteries, do they not?

Would it be possible then to take a crank operated generator and hook it up to a super capacitor (or multiple in some configuration) and get vape-love that way?
Even if it was only capable of short bursts at a time, I can see some serious backup utility there, especially if you coupled it with a LR atomizer.

Oh, and I'm no modder, so excuse me if you can think of a reason why this is not feasible. I've always been a little light on my understanding of electrical parts and theory.

 

[jiff]

That's not a bad idea, if what you're saying is right.

Even if for some reason running it straight to a capacitor didn't work, why not just have a small battery in between the two... Charging the little tiny 80mAh battery, which drains into the capacitor as a larger power reserve...

This is all guess work, since I don't know anything about electronics like this either. Just think it is a cool idea.

 

[5cardstud]

You could mount it to a bicycle like those bicycle headlight generators that run on the tire.

 

[Sci]

You could mount it to a bicycle like those bicycle headlight generators that run on the tire.

Yeah, & since we're vaping & not smoking, we could last long enough to charge it!

 

[jiff]

No problem getting worn out... Drive the car to the top of the hill, unload the bike, coast down and charge battery, take a drag. Repeat!

 

[Sci]

No problem getting worn out... Drive the car to the top of the hill, unload the bike, coast down and charge battery, take a drag. Repeat!

LOL, that's bad, Jiff, that's real bad... I just wonder what kind of current these are putting to the battery & how fast they would charge a larger battery. Also, when you think about it. I get about a couple of hrs out of a 510 battery. It's what, 180mAh? An 80mAh battery should last about 45 minutes. A good emergency vape.