NObacco Juices USA?
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I LOVE the Peacemaker Peppermint, it's a fav and worth it!! Plus, just get it on sale....then it's not so badly priced lol. V4L runs sales constantly....
Also LOVE Java Mint....
Also LOVE Java Mint....
Yes, take a look at those USA review threads. They should shine some light on the situation for you. Personally, I love Peacemaker, #7, and Stogie. They've become a part of my regular rotation.
As far as them being worth the price, I'd say yes. They are high quality juices and are made here, if you care about that as plarkinjr said. But another advantage is the Chinese New Year factor. I'm sure you're aware since you've been around for a while, but supplies become scarce right around this time of year when China shuts down, so it's good to have some experience with the USA juices since they should continue to be available during the upcoming drought.
As far as them being worth the price, I'd say yes. They are high quality juices and are made here, if you care about that as plarkinjr said. But another advantage is the Chinese New Year factor. I'm sure you're aware since you've been around for a while, but supplies become scarce right around this time of year when China shuts down, so it's good to have some experience with the USA juices since they should continue to be available during the upcoming drought.
I'd say it's worth buying a sampler of Peacemaker, check it out, then hit up then next big sale if you like it.
Chocopie, it's really worth the price. The USA juices have become my main vape. The peppermint gives out so much vapor, too, even in a coolcart. I'm vaping it right now actually.
To the OP: In short, yes. I have been a V4L customer since December of 2009. The main problem V4L has had with their products has primarily been quality control and consistency related (hardware and juice), and previously, all their products were manufactured in China. The owner and CEO, Steve Milin, has spent the last 6 months in China working very hard to improve the hardware manufacturing issues, and they have now established an e-liquid production facility in the US to address juice problems. It costs more to manufacture the products in the US, and subsequently, they are priced higher (but still very competitive with other vendors, especially considering the routinely available sales discount codes).
In summary, paying the slightly higher cost for V4L USA juices provides the following benefits:
1. The vapor IS better - they have optimized their recipes here based on customer demand and feedback.
2. The flavors are tailored specifically to the demands of their customers, which they can implement directly, without having to coordinate and communicate with foreign subcontractors.
3. They are completely in control of manufacturing production and quality assurance.
4. I expect the consistency of the e-liquid products to be held to a much higher tolerance and overall customer satisfaction.
5. I assume there will be more uniform availability of the flavors and nic strengths, since V4L is not constrained by import delays and Chinese production schedules (think Chinese new year shutdowns from Jan-March every year).
Although there are a number of juice products from China I like very much, there has been a variety of subtle changes and batch / production inconsistencies over the last two years which makes it very frustrating for us picky vapers.
Regarding flavors, read the numerous reviews that morandir has bumped up to the front page - I don't think you can go wrong with ANY of them!
Good luck, and keep us posted on your opinions.
In summary, paying the slightly higher cost for V4L USA juices provides the following benefits:
1. The vapor IS better - they have optimized their recipes here based on customer demand and feedback.
2. The flavors are tailored specifically to the demands of their customers, which they can implement directly, without having to coordinate and communicate with foreign subcontractors.
3. They are completely in control of manufacturing production and quality assurance.
4. I expect the consistency of the e-liquid products to be held to a much higher tolerance and overall customer satisfaction.
5. I assume there will be more uniform availability of the flavors and nic strengths, since V4L is not constrained by import delays and Chinese production schedules (think Chinese new year shutdowns from Jan-March every year).
Although there are a number of juice products from China I like very much, there has been a variety of subtle changes and batch / production inconsistencies over the last two years which makes it very frustrating for us picky vapers.
Regarding flavors, read the numerous reviews that morandir has bumped up to the front page - I don't think you can go wrong with ANY of them!
Good luck, and keep us posted on your opinions.
Peacemaker is great...most vapor of any V4L juices. I loaded up some Outlaw Apple with a dash of Wow Peppermint on Saturday and still can't put it down.
i tried a friends berry bandit and i can actually say, even though im not a fruit juice guy, it was good. I'm curious to try the apple outlaw. Peacemaker + some peppermint flavoring = my go to vape.
So far I've tried the N0.7, Bandit Berry, Beach Bum and Gunslinger. Beach bum and bandit berry are my favourite with beach bum coming out on top, Gunslinger was a bit much for me and haven't vaped much of it, kind of like vaping dandylions, but that's only my interpretation. Looking forward to trying some others soon but not sure which? I'm still a big Waffle fan and glad to say since the USA brand came out they haven't run dry. 
So far I've tried the N0.7, Bandit Berry, Beach Bum and Gunslinger. Beach bum and bandit berry are my favourite with beach bum coming out on top, Gunslinger was a bit much for me and haven't vaped much of it, kind of like vaping dandylions, but that's only my interpretation. Looking forward to trying some others soon but not sure which? I'm still a big Waffle fan and glad to say since the USA brand came out they haven't run dry.
No 7, what's that like?
No.7 is hard to pin down for me, but its my No.1
Seems to be honest tobacco with only the slightest hints of choc and/or bourbon (if you have the right drinks going on at the time to stimulate or reflect those flavors).
It is probably the plainest of the beachbum, and gunslinger I've tried... but that is good. If Gunslinger is like a shot of Scotch, and Beachbum is like a coconut milkshake, No.7 is like an good ole southern sweet-tea with lemon. Can do it all day long and never tire of it.
(P.S. I'm not implying that those three flavors taste like that, just connecting them for comparison purposes. to finish it out I'd say "Stogie" is like a plain old coca cola, also doable all day, but with a bit more punch, and straight up pure and true to its nature)
Seems to be honest tobacco with only the slightest hints of choc and/or bourbon (if you have the right drinks going on at the time to stimulate or reflect those flavors).
It is probably the plainest of the beachbum, and gunslinger I've tried... but that is good. If Gunslinger is like a shot of Scotch, and Beachbum is like a coconut milkshake, No.7 is like an good ole southern sweet-tea with lemon. Can do it all day long and never tire of it.
(P.S. I'm not implying that those three flavors taste like that, just connecting them for comparison purposes. to finish it out I'd say "Stogie" is like a plain old coca cola, also doable all day, but with a bit more punch, and straight up pure and true to its nature)
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Ive done aces an 8 and gunslinger outlaw apple and today just tryed no7
1 Ace an 8s ok wow that was strong i couldnt belive how much like pipe tobacco it tasted
2 gunslinger just like a cigar to strong for me too
3 outlaw apple im not a juice guy either but man its yummy
4 no 7 so far pretty mild nice taste and huge vapor just like the rest Ive tried im mixin outlaw and it now for a nice change
1 Ace an 8s ok wow that was strong i couldnt belive how much like pipe tobacco it tasted
2 gunslinger just like a cigar to strong for me too
3 outlaw apple im not a juice guy either but man its yummy
4 no 7 so far pretty mild nice taste and huge vapor just like the rest Ive tried im mixin outlaw and it now for a nice change
bunch of us have usa juices on the swap thread here ,they are great ,but not all flavors are for everyone make a deal !
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