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Ohm Gnome

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Would u trust eye drops, that are not sealed?
As much as I would unsealed. The FDA has guidelines they use but a lot of bad things are allowed within those guidelines. For example a small percentage of bugs, rat droppings and worse are allowed in many products but has to be a very very small percentage. They allow for small human error. Also man survived for centuries without all the "safety " we have now. I'm not knocking your opinion in any way. Personally I just don't worry about stuff like that as much as some people do. That doesn't make me or you right or wrong
 

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Guess it is just me, but I want sealed only. And MFG date, and lable that is posted with born on date and nic, and vg/pg amount. Just me!!!
Nothing wrong with that. I'm curious if you used to smoke? So many people smoked cigarettes without all this worry knowing they kill yet so many people want all the information on juice. That's just odd to me. Some say well the FDA approved cigarettes which kills so that doesn't resonate with me. To be clear I'm not trying to attack your reasoning I'm just curious about it
 

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Yep longer than u are old
Nothing wrong with that. I'm curious if you used to smoke? So many people smoked cigarettes without all this worry knowing they kill yet so many people want all the information on juice. That's just odd to me. Some say well the FDA approved cigarettes which kills so that doesn't resonate with me. To be clear I'm not trying to attack your reasoning I'm just curious about it
 

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Yep longer than u are old
I smoked for 21 years myself. I've recently been slipping and smoking some again after going a month without smoking. It's hard for me to smoke sometimes yet I still do it. That's crazy. I'm fine as long as I don't buy them but it's hard going to town and not buying them. Really frustrating
 

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I smoked for 21 years myself. I've recently been slipping and smoking some again after going a month without smoking. It's hard for me to smoke sometimes yet I still do it. That's crazy. I'm fine as long as I don't buy them but it's hard going to town and not buying them. Really frustrating
vap for 7 years now, and no cigs. Since lost my father. Will never start again. Smoked for 32 years, 3 packs of reds a day!
 

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Guess it is just me, but I want sealed only. And MFG date, and lable that is posted with born on date and nic, and vg/pg amount. Just me!!!
Some eLiquid companies used (or used to use) the date they fill a bottle for sale as the born on date. IMO, the date of manufacture IS the born on date. I want to know when it was made not packaged.
 

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sometimes I seal my DIY juice with shrink bands and a hair dryer I bought just for that purpose ... basically what I am saying is, the juice vendors are sealing the bottles the exact same way I am in my kitchen.

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That's an excellent point! I was reading this and starting to have second thoughts. I DIY but there is one vendor I still buy from, their bottles are unsealed. I was honestly having second thoughts until I saw this and clicked on the link. Really, what difference does it make?
 

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As much as I would unsealed. The FDA has guidelines they use but a lot of bad things are allowed within those guidelines. For example a small percentage of bugs, rat droppings and worse are allowed in many products but has to be a very very small percentage. They allow for small human error. Also man survived for centuries without all the "safety " we have now. I'm not knocking your opinion in any way. Personally I just don't worry about stuff like that as much as some people do. That doesn't make me or you right or wrong

I don't necessarily need sealed from the manufacturer, what concerns me is all the random B&M stores selling them. I don't trust them to not open the bottles to test, or potentially put something toxic in there. There's a lot of deranged people out there!

Nothing wrong with that. I'm curious if you used to smoke? So many people smoked cigarettes without all this worry knowing they kill yet so many people want all the information on juice. That's just odd to me. Some say well the FDA approved cigarettes which kills so that doesn't resonate with me. To be clear I'm not trying to attack your reasoning I'm just curious about it

The "you did so and so in the past, so what's the problem now" is beyond terrible reasoning. Like, 8th grader mental processing. The point of vaping is to move away from all the garbage and into a domain where everything is put on the table. We want 100% of the information.
 
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Trying to insult my intelligence only displays your own debating skills. However I think it's cute you trust product labeling. When GNC products had to be pulled because they contained anabolic steroids where was that on your labels. When over the counter Tylenol was found to have hydrocodone in it where was the good in your labels or nice shiny factory seals. I could list that stuff all day. I said it before and apparently have to say it again. Unless you grow, extract and manufacture every aspect of something then you just don't know about it. Sure you could trust the label, seal, FDA, etc or you could flip a coin and it probably wouldn't make much difference
 
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Trying to insult my intelligence only displays your own debating skills. However I think it's cute you trust product labeling. When GNC products had to be pulled because they contained anabolic steroids where was that on your labels. When over the counter Tylenol was found to have hydrocodone in it where was the good in your labels or nice shiny factory seals. I could list that stuff all day. I said it before and apparently have to say it again. Unless you grow, extract and manufacture every aspect of something then you just don't know about it. Sure you could trust the label, seal, FDA, etc or you could flip a coin and it probably wouldn't make much difference
Gettin ready for the train wreck,although I am with you on this.
 
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