Noob, looking to buy build first Ecig

[interestingfellow]

What a wonderful forum.... THANK YOU!
That being said:

Information overload!

I've been lurking here for about a month. I'm very interested in getting off my analogs, I smoke 2ish packs/day of newports, and it's killin me.... literally.

So, I've read a bit of this, a bit of that, and little more of that. The "welcome to the wonderful world of vaping" was quite informative, and I would recommend it to anyone interested in knowing more about vaping....
That being said, I don't think there is an ecig, already in production, that I would like best. More specifically, I think i can build a better E-cig, for myself, set to my needs.
I don't like the idea of it looking like some sort of medical device or ..... I can't believe that no one has made a black and mild looking ecig. Lots of room for a decent batter, while mainting the tabacco product look.
I was thinking the lipo cell and ecig stuff, jambed into a stainless tube, and in my case, a nice wood tip (?).
I plan on mixing my own juice, as I'll need to use vg. I've tried blu, puresmokeonline, and a few others. I'm down to switching to vapor, just not pg, as it tears up my gums. I haven't tried vg yet, I'm hoping my mouth will do well with it.
My problem is this: which atomizer and which battery? I understand there are 3.7 and 6v batts, as well as automatic and manual. Does it matter which atty is used, or can most atty's stand 6v? Where do you get them? I was looking at all the suppliers in the the suppliers forum, but they all look like they sell the whole unit(s) (probably the parts,too). But how do I know who to go with? I would like to use a manual batt, as I'll be holing it in the crook of my index, resting accross my ring finger, so pressing the button would be natural (although auto is still an option). also, if I get the right lipo cell or whichever battery (yes I understand the differences in batteries, current/voltage supply, etc) do I have to build my own protection circuit (plans on here somewhere)? Can you get the batt with that built in already (or, is it common to have the protection already built into the cell)?

Also, I don't know why we don't have ash trays, or rather "charge trays". It just seems a bit of a hassle to have to split the unit to charge it, and seems soo much more natural to just plug it in to a charger the same way you would stomp out an analogue.

I like the idea of the look and feel of something that lies between the prodigy v3.1 and the diy laser pointer.

Pardon my noobnish..... I look forward to hearing any feedback anyone might have for me!

EDIT: also, being the thrifty bass tard that i am, would something like this be good to use
TIA!

 

[Infernia]

Welcom to the forums and I applaud your ambition. I too had a bunch of ideas about what I wanted in the beginning and just as a warning; I think you will find there is an evolution to your taste in the type of device as well as an evolution in your taste for certain flavors of juices whether they be tobacco flavored or food/desert flavored.
I like your idea of a pseudo - ashtray that acts as a charger. Great idea in fact since the rest of it could act as a storage for parts and if a nice heavy base is used it won't tip and we could possibly charge more than one device at a time if the circuitry was right. Something to keep by the bedside to have as soon as you wake up and to put in the charger as you go to sleep...
When you say your gums get torn up do you mean bleeding gums? Mine did that for about a week after I completely quit the analogs. Now it has eased up. I had no idea it was related to PG.
There are a lot of companies that sell parts and DIY parts. I am pretty sure madvapes is one of them. There are others that older/more experienced members can point you to.
Congrats

 

[ScottinSoCal]

My problem is this: which atomizer and which battery? I understand there are 3.7 and 6v batts, as well as automatic and manual. Does it matter which atty is used, or can most atty's stand 6v?

I don't want to sound condescending when I ask this, but it has to be asked - how much do you know about electricity (in general), resistance, voltage to current relationship, etc.? If you're going to reinvent the wheel, you'll need to know at least something about it. As well as soldering, metalworking and circuit isolation.

And if you want something very reliable and long-lasting, you'll also want to be familiar with battery technology and the chemical and physical limitations of batteries. The ashtray idea, for example, sounds great at first. You're done, the e-cig goes into the charger and it's ready for the next session. But that's the worst possible way to charge and discharge a battery. You won't get nearly the life out of one that way as you would with a more typical charge/discharge method.

 

[Stosh]

Welcome to ECF, and the wacky world of vaping.

Your questions and thoughts are great, push the enevlope, unfortunatly
the New Member forum might not get the views for you to get answers.

There is a Modders section in ECF where your questions would be better
understood and answered. The bad news is you need 5 posts to have permission
to post there (keeps the spammers at bay, and works very well).

Just say hello to some fellow "noobs to ECF" and wait 1 hr for the site to update
and you're golden.

Hope to be vaping one of your state of the art PVs one day, as I'm a "new and better"
consumer, not a builder.

 

[CraigHB]

I applaud your intent to jump right into modding. I'm right there with you. I have yet to find a device that suits me perfectly. The Pro-Vari is about the closest thing I've seen, but it's not quite exactly what I want. Building my own perfect device right now, but I'm also an electrical engineer so it's right up my alley. Hopefully, you'll have no problem designing whatever it is you want to build. Success or failure, it's a lot of fun.

 

[serenekaos]

Welcome to the forums!

I personally think making your own juice would be of more benefit then designing your own PV when there is such a wide selection of PV's already available and juices are such a more personal 'taste'.

 

[dormouse]

Wow you are beyond me! Once you get 5 posts and then wait about an hour, you'll be able to ask questions in the Mod builders section of the forum.

 

[interestingfellow]

well thank you all for the replies!
rather than force my overworked brain and tired body go back and answer everyone specifically:

my knowledge of everything is less than some, but more than most....

i understand the relationship of power, resistance, voltage, etc.... I have experience in all sorts of power related fields such as: radio controlled cars (gotta know your shizzle so you don't blow stuff up), fixing cell phones and laptops on a component level (little to no experience with hot air rework, though I have done smt very carefully with an iron), after market car stereos/subs, home remodeling, swapping engines (Yay Chevy), as well as diagnosing and fixing mysterious electrical problems, mechanical engineering (didn't finish, but I'm of that mindset), design and implementation of all of my own structures (sheds, garages, houses, additions, etc), and I worked in Newport News Shipbuilding - E82/Reactor Services (now Northrup Grummond) doing nuke engineering (co-op through ODU), as well as a myriad of low level jobs like running movie projectors, fixing the a/v equipment in said theaters, cell phones sales (as well as hacking/modding), MCP (i hate microsoft and prefer ubuntu ), as well as having a sweet, overly modded toughbook cf-29 that I added GPS, WWan, BT, and a few other things.
I'm basically the guy all my friends go to when something breaks, or they want to make two or more things work together that aren't supposed to. (I'm sure a fair amount of my abilities are far less about existing knowledge/skill, and more about not being afraid to "just do it")

I cook, clean, sew (make my kids costume every year), and generally know a little bit about everything.

That being said, I don't know it all, and sometimes only enough to get in trouble....

I do have access to a machine shop, although I can probably fabricate all the parts from SS stock from a local supplier. i would be less duanted if there were 1 supplier that sold a little bit of everything, so I could compare and contrast what was available. But it's hard to do so, when you are comparing 1 item from one supplier, wiith another similar, but different, item from another supplier.


LIPO batteries aren't supposed to have a memory, but it's stil not good to charge them constantly (I don't care what the critics say). The ashtray thing was for when it goes dead, not constant. i don't know about an actual ash tray looking charger, but i plan on usinga "reciever tube" to just drop my monstrosity into, and having it chare from the "lit" end.....

 

[Stosh]

With a resume like that and a machine shop, you really need to talk to the modders forum!!
They have suppliers, part recommendations, "already tried that didn't worked" etc....
You seem like a natural!

 

[CraigHB]

Sounds to me like you won't have too much trouble building a charging holder. What you can do is use a PV with a USB port (like an eGo passthru). Not much electronics involved with a charging holder, just a USB receptacle. USB wall chargers are inexpensive and readily available.

If you want to make your own PV to drop into a charging holder, that's going to be more involved since you would need to incorporate a cell charger. Though, you could probably just cannabalize something like a Nano charger. Just wire up the cell contacts to a plug of some kind then build a receptacle into your homemade PV.

 

[mlinky]

Wow, good luck...I'll be looking for your first sales thread in a year or so.

 

[interestingfellow]

Well, let this be my 3rd post then... two more to go till I can get to the modders....

So, I can manage the case, tip, and most of the charger. What I need to figure out then is

which battery(s)
which atty
protection/charge circuit

and maybe a flashy light thingy on the end (not important except for charge indicator?)