Noob needs help with juice selection. Please read my mess.

[Thepinfamily]

Ugh! The choices coupled with the lack of experience is enough to make any noob run for the analogs. Im not a quitter though.....no wait, I am a quitter. Just not an e-cig quitter. I need help and for once in my life you dont need to be a shrink to help me. Im about to order my second juice order. The first order didnt go so well so I went and bought another pack of blu cartos. I would like to give you all the requirements for my next order and hear your suggestions. This is what im working with,
1) needs to be 100% VG. Does not need to be PG free so a little PG in the flavoring should be fine. My first order gave me a major headache and im not sure why. The blu cartos do not give me a headache. Im not sure I have a problem with PG but untill I find an everyday vape I want to be safe. Hope this makes sense, it does in my head.
2) I want something I can vape the day I get it. Something pre-steeped. I dont want to keep buying blu cartos.
3) I want a blueberry flavor and a RY4. I havent tried either but I love blueberry and I want a medium tobacco flavor with some sweetness to it. Vanilla, honey or a berry flavor mixed in. RY4 sounds like it fits the bill and its very popular for a reason im sure.
4) I think I want the blueberry to be about 12-14mg so I can vape it a lot and the RY4 to be about 16-18mg.
5)I want quality with no real concern with cost.
6) I would like to try 5-6mil bottles first to see if I like it.
I think thats it. I know thats to much to ask right. Im having trouble finding a vendor that fits the bill. Im looking at mtbaker, HHV,Nicquid, but I dont know who has presteeped stuff. If these were your juice requirements who would you buy from? Links would be much appreciated. Thanks for helping a noob out. Soon I will be a helper instead of the helped, but not without your help. So, your helping the helped become the helper. See how important you are

 

[CarbonThief]

I can only speak to HHV from that list, and if you order sampler size they are presteeped and ready to vape. Larger bottles, well don't necessarily REQUIRE steeping, but most seem to prefer it. Gandalf, I mean Legend, I love straight away, but it does get better after a few weeks as well. Serendipity, which is a longer extract on the same consituents as Gandalf, I did not much care for right away, but one week steeping and it became my favorite.

I haven't tried it from them, but you may want to try Black and Blue, from the website:
"What is Black & Blue? Simple, Adam accidently refilled his Crackberry carto tank with Smurfette and voila!! Black & Blue was born. Of course Heather fine tuned the ratio of fresh blueberry and tart blackberry to create the ultimate berry lovers dream vape. This flavor is part of our Purity line. All flavor ingredients in our Purity line are propylene glycol (PG) free which is why we can offer this particular vape in your favorite PG/VG ratio including 100% organic VG if desired."

For what is likely a more tobacco flavored but perhaps similar fruit profile, MyVapeJuice has a My Hero Black and Blue which is a naturally extracted tobacco with the same fruits as above. They also offer RY4, plus a new RY4 coming soon which is also a NET. I haven't tried this vendor yet, but an order is on the way. I have, however, heard good things from others.

As to your headaches, what nic % were you vaping, and were you vaping less, as much, or more than you were smoking? Many vape more, especially initially, if not always. You can get headaches from too much nicotine, as well as too little, unfortunately. Of course it could also be the PG, or other flavor ingredients.

Good luck!

 

[joelle]

I've been pretty happy with what I ordered from Mt baker, but they did need a little time to mature. Johnson Creek seemed pretty strong right away, loved their Autumn Crisp but not impressed with Marcado, letting that one sit a lot longer! Just got an order from the vapor room and the waffles, both RY4s were terrific from the very beginning. If i had to pick one right now The Vapor Room wins hands down! They don't offer 100% VG but they do offer a 75/25 blend which might work for you.

Good Luck! I'm still searching for my all day vape, think I'm getting close though. Waiting for an order to come in from Alice in Vapeland, heard such good things about them that I'm really excited about getting some of theirs, hope they are worth the wait!

 

[Thepinfamily]

I can only speak to HHV from that list, and if you order sampler size they are presteeped and ready to vape. Larger bottles, well don't necessarily REQUIRE steeping, but most seem to prefer it. Gandalf, I mean Legend, I love straight away, but it does get better after a few weeks as well. Serendipity, which is a longer extract on the same consituents as Gandalf, I did not much care for right away, but one week steeping and it became my favorite.

I haven't tried it from them, but you may want to try Black and Blue, from the website:
"What is Black & Blue? Simple, Adam accidently refilled his Crackberry carto tank with Smurfette and voila!! Black & Blue was born. Of course Heather fine tuned the ratio of fresh blueberry and tart blackberry to create the ultimate berry lovers dream vape. This flavor is part of our Purity line. All flavor ingredients in our Purity line are propylene glycol (PG) free which is why we can offer this particular vape in your favorite PG/VG ratio including 100% organic VG if desired."

For what is likely a more tobacco flavored but perhaps similar fruit profile, MyVapeJuice has a My Hero Black and Blue which is a naturally extracted tobacco with the same fruits as above. They also offer RY4, plus a new RY4 coming soon which is also a NET. I haven't tried this vendor yet, but an order is on the way. I have, however, heard good things from others.

As to your headaches, what nic % were you vaping, and were you vaping less, as much, or more than you were smoking? Many vape more, especially initially, if not always. You can get headaches from too much nicotine, as well as too little, unfortunately. Of course it could also be the PG, or other flavor ingredients.

Good luck!

The reason I thought it was the PG giving me headaches is the timing. I had been vaping for about a month with Blu and no problems. Then I got my eGo kit in the mail with the 18mg prefilled cartridges, no problems. I could tell they were stronger than the Blu but I would just put them down faster. Then I got my 18mg samples that smelled like perfume. I took about two puffs each off of 6 different samples throughout the day trying to find one that was vapable. The headache started after the 2nd or 3rd sample. I dont really know what it was but im going to make my next order 100% VG till I get through this learning curve then I will play with different mixes.

 

[CarbonThief]

The reason I thought it was the PG giving me headaches is the timing. I had been vaping for about a month with Blu and no problems. Then I got my eGo kit in the mail with the 18mg prefilled cartridges, no problems. I could tell they were stronger than the Blu but I would just put them down faster. Then I got my 18mg samples that smelled like perfume. I took about two puffs each off of 6 different samples throughout the day trying to find one that was vapable. The headache started after the 2nd or 3rd sample. I dont really know what it was but im going to make my next order 100% VG till I get through this learning curve then I will play with different mixes.

Could be, could also be whatever was giving them the perfume aroma. Hard to tell, but hope you figure it out.

 

[Thepinfamily]

Does juice from better quality vendors have that perfume smell/taste?

 

[CarbonThief]

Many do, if it's an extracted tobacco for instance, depends on the method used, and some vendors even use different extraction methods (some with alcohol, some without) for different juices they carry. Hard to predict. Some non NET and non tobacco flavors in general might have alcohol in the flavorings as well. Or other solvents or whatever that could also be the culprit. I would try different nic strength and lower or zero PG first as imo, these are the more likely culprits, or at least easiest to rule out/nail down.

 

[Up1tree]

Your description says you want Alien Visions... Mmm gorilla juice

 

[gthompson]

Your description says you want Alien Visions... Mmm gorilla juice

His OP said he wants blueberry and an RY4. Gorilla Juice is neither.

 

[Vash]

I would check out Alien Visions ,They have 100% vg and 90vg/10pg blends and great tasting juices Or look into making your own juice.DIY can seem tricky at first but its well worth the effort.At this point I only vape my own juice and I am loving it

 

[Up1tree]

His OP said he wants blueberry and an RY4. Gorilla Juice is neither.

Ummm Ave makes very berry blueberry and their boba's imo is better than most people's RY4. Now I still stand my favorite from them is gorilla juice. It is also one of the rare instances I will vape a full on VG.

 

[gthompson]

I've not had AVE's Blueberry, but I'm sure it's good. AVE makes good juice. The man asked about an RY4, and Boba's isn't even close to an RY4.

 

[TGCR]

Velvet Cloud Vapor - the best E-Liquid on the planet has a blueberry so does Heathers Heavenly Vapes, Top Quality Custom E-Liquids

heather also has an ry4 called heavenly tobacco

ECBlend E-Liquids - Something Better also has a blueberry and ry4

all good juice providers -- ecblends and velvetcloud will deliver quickly

 

[speedydave]

Just got an order from the vapor room and the waffles, both RY4s were terrific from the very beginning. If i had to pick one right now The Vapor Room wins hands down! They don't offer 100% VG but they do offer a 75/25 blend which might work for you.

The Vapor Room does have a 100% VG option for $1 more per bottle, but I don't know if it is a "true" PG-free liquid or not (flavorings and nicotine come in different bases). If you do go ahead and order from TVR and you're looking for a blueberry flavor, check out Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble. Not a pure blueberry flavor, but the blueberry is definitely prominent and quite tasty.

Can't speak on the tobacco flavors much as I've only tried a few, but my desire in a tobacco sounds similar to yours. I just placed an order with HHV which included seven of their tobacco-based juices, so I'll let you know what I think!

 

[Baditude]

he wants blueberry and an RY4.

Natural & Organic E-liquids - Dripeez Natural Blueberry E-liquid Dripeez

Organically Flavored E-liquid | Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes

Tobacco Flavored Juices | Vaperite E-Juices | Vaperite.com

All three vendors customize the juice to your request of pg/vg. Natural and organic flavors. Sorry, you can vape these on delivery, but they really shine after a week's steeping. Pretty common requirement with Vg and natural/organic flavoring.

 

[Estaban]

Ugh! The choices coupled with the lack of experience is enough to make any noob run for the analogs. Im not a quitter though.....no wait, I am a quitter. Just not an e-cig quitter. I need help and for once in my life you dont need to be a shrink to help me. Im about to order my second juice order. The first order didnt go so well so I went and bought another pack of blu cartos. I would like to give you all the requirements for my next order and hear your suggestions. This is what im working with,
1) needs to be 100% VG. Does not need to be PG free so a little PG in the flavoring should be fine. My first order gave me a major headache and im not sure why. The blu cartos do not give me a headache. Im not sure I have a problem with PG but untill I find an everyday vape I want to be safe. Hope this makes sense, it does in my head.
2) I want something I can vape the day I get it. Something pre-steeped. I dont want to keep buying blu cartos.
3) I want a blueberry flavor and a RY4. I havent tried either but I love blueberry and I want a medium tobacco flavor with some sweetness to it. Vanilla, honey or a berry flavor mixed in. RY4 sounds like it fits the bill and its very popular for a reason im sure.
4) I think I want the blueberry to be about 12-14mg so I can vape it a lot and the RY4 to be about 16-18mg.
5)I want quality with no real concern with cost.
6) I would like to try 5-6mil bottles first to see if I like it.
I think thats it. I know thats to much to ask right. Im having trouble finding a vendor that fits the bill. Im looking at mtbaker, HHV,Nicquid, but I dont know who has presteeped stuff. If these were your juice requirements who would you buy from? Links would be much appreciated. Thanks for helping a noob out. Soon I will be a helper instead of the helped, but not without your help. So, your helping the helped become the helper. See how important you are

Heathers heavenly army and huntsman are good Tabacco flavors...heavenly army is sweeter...huntsman is slightly sweet after steeping and stronger ...both have a nice real Tabacco flavor....I would try the sampler.....huntsman,legends,heavenly army,pirates booty...I would bet money 2 of the 4 you will love....the other 2..you will like....they are all that good..

 

[Up1tree]

Meh still standing behind Ave is worth a try.

 

[gthompson]

Meh still standing behind Ave is worth a try.

Do you work for AVE or something? You suggested Very Berry, it was a good suggestion. Boba's and GJ are also very good juice, I like them myself, but neither are a flavor he was asking about. Just because something is your favorite doesn't make it the best for all occasions and all people.

 

[whitepony]

actually i agree with up1tree AVE makes a decent blueberry and this ry4 you speak of is nothing close to what the orginal ry4 was before dekang changed it...you know back when ry4 was good...while bobas isn't close to the original ry4 even its a sweet vape like ry4. one that is close would be more like ikenvapes. I still stand behind gorilla juice is by far the best sweet tobacco juice tho

 

[gthompson]

So you don't like RY4s therefore he shouldn't either.