Noob Questions

[joal0503]

First off, this place is a goldmine of awesomeness...much love for those involved with this community. I've done a lot of research and finally made the switch a couple weeks ago, but I still have a few questions...

Currently, the setup

VAMO
V-Core 2.0 2-6 ohms
Some stock "clearomizer" - i think thats the right terminology? It came with the VAMO, CE-4?
1 bottle VG E-juice
1 PG e-liquid

My main concerns are avoiding damage to my setup...so ill try to explain the best that I can.

My understanding is that voltage/wattage is dependent upon the OHM rating of the device you use with your mod. I am currently using variable wattage, and have it set at 4.0 watts for usage with my 2.6 ohm tank.

I will need to adjust the settings when I switch over to the lower OHM rated CE-4, right? I plan on just tasting it out in combination with the vape power chart.

Another question I have, is it important to avoid certain types of liquid with certain types of tanks/clearomizer/etc? Are there optimal combinations with the type of atomizer and type of liquid? Or is it more or less just a preference? The CE-4 also has wicks...WICKS what the hell are they for!? Should I not use PG liquid with wicks? Should I not use VG WITHOUT wicks? Or Will PG or VG liquids work just fine in both of my atomizers?

I plan on using PG liquid with my CE-4, and stick with the VG liquids inside of this tank thing with wicks....is that a safe gameplan?

ANY advice, tips, precautions about my setup are welcome!
THANKS IN ADVANCE YO!

 

[The Ocelot]

First off, this place is a goldmine of awesomeness...much love for those involved with this community. I've done a lot of research and finally made the switch a couple weeks ago, but I still have a few questions...

Currently, the setup

VAMO
V-Core 2.0 2-6 ohms
Some stock "clearomizer" - i think thats the right terminology? It came with the VAMO, CE-4?
1 bottle VG E-Juice
1 PG E-Liquid

My main concerns are avoiding damage to my setup...so ill try to explain the best that I can.

My understanding is that voltage/wattage is dependent upon the OHM rating of the device you use with your mod. I am currently using variable wattage, and have it set at 4.0 watts for usage with my 2.6 ohm tank.

I will need to adjust the settings when I switch over to the lower OHM rated CE-4, right? I plan on just tasting it out in combination with the vape power chart...

Hi -

With a variable wattage device, like the Vamo, you pick a power level you like, for example 6w, and The Vamo will adjust the voltage based on the resistance of the device you screw onto it, so you will have 6w.

When set at 6w, you can screw a 2.0Ω device a 3.0Ω device, it doesn't matter, the Vamo will produce 6w. That being said, you might not like all of your juices at 6w, at which point you will adjust the power level up or down to your liking. Charts and math give you a reference point, but vaping is about what tastes good to you.

 

[joal0503]

Hi -

With a variable wattage device, like the Vamo, you pick a power level you like, for example 6w, and The Vamo will adjust the voltage based on the resistance of the device you screw onto it, so you will have 6w.

When set at 6w, you can screw a 2.0Ω device a 3.0Ω device, it doesn't matter, the Vamo will produce 6w. That being said, you might not like all of your juices at 6w, at which point you will adjust the power level up or down to your liking. Charts and math give you a reference point, but vaping is about what tastes good to you.

Thank you much, yea I think Im finally getting comfortable knowing what settings should be in place when I am vaping (sweet spot ohhyea) Do you have any information on the type of liquid vs type of atomizer? A friend has told me that I should avoid using PG liquids with wicks, and that I should avoid using VG on ones without wicks. Is that solid advice or just nonsense?

 

[The Ocelot]

Another question I have, is it important to avoid certain types of liquid with certain types of tanks/clearomizer/etc? Are there optimal combinations with the type of atomizer and type of liquid? Or is it more or less just a preference?

Many of the inexpensive device we use, like CE4s, Vivi Novas and EVODs are made of polycarbonate plastic or a polycarb blend. Several flavorings degrade polycarb causing discoloration, etching and cracking. For juice resistance devices you need to use polypropylene, glass, metal or ceramic.

You might find this blog helpful (Although I think you have to have a certain number of posts to reads the blogs)

EEEKKK! What happened to my tank?

 

[bazmonkey]

You seem to have voltage/wattage/resistance understood. When you switch to a lower-resistance CE4, you'll want to lower the voltage in order to achieve the same wattage. But you don't need to calculate it, going by taste like you said is fine. The chart is a guideline. I use the charts just to keep in mind what the upper limit I should be using is. E.g., I make 1.6-ish ohm coils for myself, and I don't pay attention to the voltage I use it at, except that I don't push it past 4.0V. 2.0-2.6 ohm devices are ok in just about the whole range of voltages, so unless you get below 2.0 ohms there isn't a whole lot of danger of burning out your clearos.

100% VG juice is thick, and that's where you get people saying certain kinds of juices don't work well in certain devices; it won't wick as easily. Some devices that use small holes to dispense the juice (vivi nanos, for example) will either not dispense thick liquid, or flood with thinner liquid. 100% PG juice should work fine... but I don't know of many people who use straight PG. Usually I see at least 20% or so VG. If you're using VG liquid now, you shouldn't have any issues with PG liquid.

 

[bradwinters]

You shouldn't have to adjust the wattage on your vamo when you switch from the tank to the clearomizer. 4watts is 4watts no matter what kind of tank/rba/clearomizer/cartomizer you may be using. What will happen is that your Vamo will automatically adjust the voltage for you to achieve the wattage you have it set for. As far as your PG/VG question.... It all really comes down to personal preference and wicking. Trial and error will tell you the "right" and "wrong" way. The PG liquid may wick better in the CE4 than the VG. Or that may not be what happens for you. Either juice should be fine in either of your atomizers. About the only thing you have to worry about is liquids that could crack polycarbonate tanks, like citrus and cinnamon. Other than that, vape your face off.

 

[The Ocelot]

Thank you much, yea I think Im finally getting comfortable knowing what settings should be in place when I am vaping (sweet spot ohhyea) Do you have any information on the type of liquid vs type of atomizer? A friend has told me that I should avoid using PG liquids with wicks, and that I should avoid using VG on ones without wicks. Is that solid advice or just nonsense?

The kind of devices you will probably be using at this point all using some kind of wicking system. The liquid is held in a tank, and the "wicks" wick the liquid to the heating element where it is vaporized. A CE4 is a top coil device, so the string wicks are more easily seen. The liquid moves up the wicks to the heating element on top. A bottom coil device, like an EVOD or Protank also has wicks, but they are down in the bottom and hard to see since they are tiny.

I'm not sure what your friend is talking about.

E-liquid is usually made of a mixture of pg, vg and flavorings. Pg gives you more flavor and throat hit, vg makes more vapor. Some people have sensitivities (usually to pg) and choose other ratios, which can vary from 100% pg to 100% vg.

Vg is thicker than pg and at 100% vg, or sometimes even a high ratio, vg can get gunky and not work well in some devices.

 

[joal0503]

Many of the inexpensive device we use, like CE4s, Vivi Novas and EVODs are made of polycarbonate plastic or a polycarb blend. Several flavorings degrade polycarb causing discoloration, etching and cracking. For juice resistance devices you need to use polypropylene, glass, metal or ceramic.

You might find this blog helpful (Although I think you have to have a certain number of posts to reads the blogs)

EEEKKK! What happened to my tank?

THANKS! Ill have to get workin on mah poosst count!

You seem to have voltage/wattage/resistance understood. When you switch to a lower-resistance CE4, you'll want to lower the voltage in order to achieve the same wattage. But you don't need to calculate it, going by taste like you said is fine. The chart is a guideline. I use the charts just to keep in mind what the upper limit I should be using is. E.g., I make 1.6-ish ohm coils for myself, and I don't pay attention to the voltage I use it at, except that I don't push it past 4.0V. 2.0-2.6 ohm devices are ok in just about the whole range of voltages, so unless you get below 2.0 ohms there isn't a whole lot of danger of burning out your clearos.

100% VG juice is thick, and that's where you get people saying certain kinds of juices don't work well in certain devices; it won't wick as easily. Some devices that use small holes to dispense the juice (vivi nanos, for example) will either not dispense thick liquid, or flood with thinner liquid. 100% PG juice should work fine... but I don't know of many people who use straight PG. Usually I see at least 20% or so VG. If you're using VG liquid now, you shouldn't have any issues with PG liquid.

THANK YOU !!!!!!

You shouldn't have to adjust the wattage on your vamo when you switch from the tank to the clearomizer. 4watts is 4watts no matter what kind of tank/rba/clearomizer/cartomizer you may be using. What will happen is that your Vamo will automatically adjust the voltage for you to achieve the wattage you have it set for.


This actually confuses me. I get what you are saying, switching the atomizers will still leave my VAMO settings at 4.0 watts...but I would still need to adjust the watts based off of the resistance/ OHM rating of my atomizer won't I?

As far as your PG/VG question.... It all really comes down to personal preference and wicking. Trial and error will tell you the "right" and "wrong" way. The PG liquid may wick better in the CE4 than the VG. Or that may not be what happens for you. Either juice should be fine in either of your atomizers. About the only thing you have to worry about is liquids that could crack polycarbonate tanks, like citrus and cinnamon. Other than that, vape your face off.

VAPING MY FACE OFF HAS COMMENCED!!!!!!!

The kind of devices you will probably be using at this point all using some kind of wicking system. The liquid is held in a tank, and the "wicks" wick the liquid to the heating element where it is vaporized. A CE4 is a top coil device, so the string wicks are more easily seen. The liquid moves up the wicks to the heating element on top. A bottom coil device, like an EVOD or Protank also has wicks, but they are down in the bottom and hard to see since they are tiny.

I'm not sure what your friend is talking about.

E-liquid is usually made of a mixture of pg, vg and flavorings. Pg gives you more flavor and throat hit, vg makes more vapor. Some people have sensitivities (usually to pg) and choose other ratios, which can vary from 100% pg to 100% vg.

Vg is thicker than pg and at 100% vg, or sometimes even a high ratio, vg can get gunky and not work well in some devices.

I wasn't very sure of what he was trying to say either...Thanks for clearin up the air with your vapor knowledge!

 

[GPSTrucker]

I don't even bother with wattage on my Vamo, I just adjust the voltage for taste. Either or, it produces the same result. as long as it taste good it's all good.

 

[DaxFX]

Very important !
You need to change your new vamo into NO2 mode or (RMS) the vame came pre-setup into (average) mode wich will give a much higer volt than what is set to.. Just pres one of the small butons untill you see NO2 in the display.

Just in case you havnt do it yet

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[joal0503]

I don't even bother with wattage on my Vamo, I just adjust the voltage for taste. Either or, it produces the same result. as long as it taste good it's all good.

Yea, thus far (obviously the # is different between the two) it seems as if there really isnt a noticeable difference in the flavor or quality of the vapor. I currently sit around 3.5-4.0 watts or 3.4 - 3.9 volts. Both are working well!

Very important !
You need to change your new vamo into NO2 mode or (RMS) the vame came pre-setup into (average) mode wich will give a much higer volt than what is set to.. Just pres one of the small butons untill you see NO2 in the display.

Just in case you havnt do it yet

Sent from my iVap using Tapatalk HD

YES! I did this right away and actually noticed a lot better quality right off the bat.

 

[mobcittty]

Great info!

I got my vamo on the way.

 

[sonicdsl]

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[Katya]

Thank you much, yea I think Im finally getting comfortable knowing what settings should be in place when I am vaping (sweet spot ohhyea) Do you have any information on the type of liquid vs type of atomizer? A friend has told me that I should avoid using PG liquids with wicks, and that I should avoid using VG on ones without wicks. Is that solid advice or just nonsense?

Joal, every juice delivery device is equipped with a wick--wicks carry ejuice to the atomizing coils. So, yes, your friend is misinformed.

 

[joal0503]

New Noob Question...Before I had 2 18350 batteries and my OHM rating on this CE4 clearomizer was 1.6, now i just put in a single 18650 battery and its sitting at 3.0 ohms. is this normal, and more importantly WHY does this happen?

 

[DaxFX]

New Noob Question...Before I had 2 18350 batteries and my OHM rating on this CE4 clearomizer was 1.6, now i just put in a single 18650 battery and its sitting at 3.0 ohms. is this normal, and more importantly WHY does this happen?

Clean yor pinconector, screw and unscrew a bit like 1/8 turn to grind the contact of atty and device


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[Katya]

New Noob Question...Before I had 2 18350 batteries and my OHM rating on this CE4 clearomizer was 1.6, now i just put in a single 18650 battery and its sitting at 3.0 ohms. is this normal, and more importantly WHY does this happen?

How long have you been using this clearo? Is the coil dirty? The resistance can change--up or down--on a dirty or damaged coil.

 

[doubleM]

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