It's better then smoking... I think we can all agree upon that. Without support how is she going to quit logs?
Not Allowed to Vape in the House
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It's better then smoking... I think we can all agree upon that. Without support how is she going to quit logs?
Dan, I know we should create a PA meet... It seems like a lot of us are on the forums
I agree with what others said, yes it's their house and more importantly you aren't going to change their preconceptions of what vaping is. The truth is you need to stand on your own two feet and move out because while living there, you are subjugated under their terms and conditions. If you are vaping in their house, that is downright disrespectful, so please don't do it.
I am an adult and have been independent for some time now, although I always let my parents weigh in, I make my own choices because I have the freedom to do so. However, if I were forced to live with my parents (for some god forsaken reason) then I'd abide by their wishes and not vape in their house, not because they are too ignorant to know better, but because I respect them.
I am an adult and have been independent for some time now, although I always let my parents weigh in, I make my own choices because I have the freedom to do so. However, if I were forced to live with my parents (for some god forsaken reason) then I'd abide by their wishes and not vape in their house, not because they are too ignorant to know better, but because I respect them.
Sort of. After four months of heavy vaping, my home office has a slight lingering smell of mint to it. The scent isn't at all unpleasant, and people walking in have asked what air freshener I use as they'd like to get some!
It's sure a lot nicer than the wrinkled noses and slight flinch people used to give when I smoked.
But it does linger, and it may get into fabrics depending on what flavors you vape. Mint and sweet flavors seem to be the most penetrating.
Support yes. But to allow someone to tread upon my wishes in my house? Definitely not. And where do you read that they don't support her. I won't hijack, so I won't post to this thread anymore.
In my 40's and have never smoked inside my home because analogs stink everything up. I do vape inside but many times I sit on the patio listening to the chimes and water fountain vaping to my hearts content. It's relaxing to be outside in that environment and is very peaceful. I really enjoy doing that. I do live in Arizona so evenings are a real treat (-june & July). Try to use the time outside do decompress.
Best wishes....
Best wishes....
Agreed, I would like someone to respect my house wishes as well, not disrespect them.
Here is what I would appreciate if you were living under my roof. Get your research together and prepare your side of the argument. Ask for your parents to sit down with you together and present your case. If you can sway their opinion then you win, if you can't then you lose. If you win, you get to vape inside. If you lose, you have to live with the rules.
That is what I feel to be the most civil way to approach the situation.
I would be much more open to listening to someone's opinion if they were to sit down and talk it over with me rather than doing something I don't like behind my back. You will be surprised how far honesty can get you.
And I do not think it a bad thing that someone lives with their parents at 23 years old. I got married once and it did not work out. My only option at the time was to move in with my parents at 27. I lived there long enough to get my act together and move out. At the time I smoked cigs. They allowed me to smoke outside and I lived with the rules. There is nothing wrong with parents helping their grown children. As a matter of fact, there is everything right by them doing so.
That is what I feel to be the most civil way to approach the situation.
I would be much more open to listening to someone's opinion if they were to sit down and talk it over with me rather than doing something I don't like behind my back. You will be surprised how far honesty can get you.
And I do not think it a bad thing that someone lives with their parents at 23 years old. I got married once and it did not work out. My only option at the time was to move in with my parents at 27. I lived there long enough to get my act together and move out. At the time I smoked cigs. They allowed me to smoke outside and I lived with the rules. There is nothing wrong with parents helping their grown children. As a matter of fact, there is everything right by them doing so.
Someone should absolutely create a PA meet!
And there are some rude people that have posted in this thread.
At the end of the day it just doesn't matter if they're being logical, sympathetic, encouraging, open-minded... you can choose to fight the noble fight but chances are you're not going to win. And, honestly, why should you? You're all adults and do what you like within the confines of your own home, but as soon as you're in someone else's domain, you follow those rules, laws, etc. You couldn't possibly expect that as an international traveler that you're not obliged to follow the laws of another nation right? And, if it were your home and you specified to those staying within your home that no alcohol would be tolerated inside (heaven forbid), yet one person decided he'd drink light beer, and used the excuse that he should be able to because it's "healthier" than whiskey that you'd tolerate it. Seriously, if I want you to wrap your feet in aluminum foil and eat a blueberry muffin before entering my house, that's the way it goes... it's your choice to enter or leave.
Someone should absolutely create a PA meet!
And there are some rude people that have posted in this thread.
Lol we really should create an event! I would love to meet some fellow Pa vapors on the forum! That would be great! Your not too far away from west chester or Philly... Right? We should post something on the Pa group
Lol we really should create an event! I would love to meet some fellow Pa vapors on the forum! That would be great! Your not too far away from west chester or Philly... Right? We should post something on the Pa group
Nice I was starting to think I was the only one in WC who vapes but i'm down for a meet I know there is a club based in Philly, I tried to start a thread for chester/delaware county vapers to meet around us but noone responded. Philly will work but in the end it's realistcally a 2 hour trip time both ways when you factor in traffic and parking. So something around the chester delaware county area I think would be sweet if we could get enough people
Lol we really should create an event! I would love to meet some fellow Pa vapors on the forum! That would be great! Your not too far away from west chester or Philly... Right? We should post something on the Pa group
I'm brand new to PA and don't know a single person haha, but yeah I think i'm less than 2 hours away. Totally worth the drive to meet some fellow vapors =] Also hoping to go to New York Vapefest in March and possibly carpool with some people from PA. http://www.vapefest.com Buttt, totally hijacking this thread. PM me if you make a thread about this or something of the sort!
Due to the fantastic economy here in upstate NY, and an overwhelming need to get my priorities straight, my family and I have also had to move back in with my parents. Just for the record, we pay our fair share. When I first moved in, they went so far as to de-scent all of my furniture. They truly HATED my analog habit, and the smell on my stuff was so powerful that I was accused of smoking indoors on many occasions. I couldn't throw my butts in the trash, couldn't smoke in the cars, and had to go out certain doors even. I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones, as I haven't heard one word so far as to where I can and cannot vape. I guess they are just so very relieved to be rid of the smell, that the pleasantly scented vapor doesn't bother anyone. I second the idea that you should gather all your evidence that works in your favor, get it organized in such a way that it will be easiest for them to grasp, and pleasantly request a nice sit-down. Possibly over tea. Don't try for a full on win, instead go for something like permission to vape only in your own room with the door closed, or the bathroom or something. Keep a good attitude the whole time, and be reasonable. With any luck you may come to some kind of agreement. Just remember. If they say no, don't get all P'd-off about it. Thank them for their time, and drop it. You may just find that they change their minds all on their own. Good luck and happy vaping! 
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vapor-meets-chester-delaware-county-area.html
Here is the old thread I started.
LOL, I had to laugh a couple times reading this thread. Have a sense of humor folks...
+1 on respect what they ask. +10 on educating them about vaping. PG is being used in hospital ventilation systems as an airborne antiseptic and VG is already most likely in some of the foods they. The rest that comes out is water vapor.
At the end of the day, I'd hope they are supportive of your steps towards proactively finding a healthier alternative to smokes. I'm guessing you weren't allowed to smoke in the house either, so stay patient and try and bring them around to your thinking. Maybe a compromise is to only vape in your room. If they don't come around you're no worse off than when you had to go outside to smoke.
Good luck
+1 on respect what they ask. +10 on educating them about vaping. PG is being used in hospital ventilation systems as an airborne antiseptic and VG is already most likely in some of the foods they. The rest that comes out is water vapor.
At the end of the day, I'd hope they are supportive of your steps towards proactively finding a healthier alternative to smokes. I'm guessing you weren't allowed to smoke in the house either, so stay patient and try and bring them around to your thinking. Maybe a compromise is to only vape in your room. If they don't come around you're no worse off than when you had to go outside to smoke.
Good luck
Agreed. My GF lives with me and still smokes. She tried to tell me I had to vape outside because of the "smell". I calmly explained that I was quitting smoking and with the sacrifice comes some rewards. One of those rewards is not freezing my keyster off sucking fumes... Also, it IS my house. Also, I have no issue telling people to lay off smoking in my car. I tell my friends before we even get it he car. That way if it is an issue, they can find another ride
. So, to be on both sides of the argument , do what it takes to quit, but respect is a two-way street. Being a parent, I can say that if my kids needed ANYTHING to keep them safer and healthier, I'd be as supportive as possible. If vaping inside is truly important to your goal of quitting, explain it to your parents in those terms and maybe a compromise (probably a lot like what your doing now to get by) could be reached. Best of Luck!
You need to ask them if they smell smoke, and explain to them its not smoke its a vapor. Tell them the pg is the same thing you would find in one of the most popular cough syrups Nyquil. And its also in many many other things we ingest. The flavorings are food grade and are found in any food in your kitchen. If you are using VG that is in hand cream, and also in things we eat all the time. PG is found also injectable solutions used by drs. And also as a vehicle in breathers to open up the lungs. Education needs to be done to those that dont understand. They see what they think is smoke and assume that is what it is. Its no different than a fog machine. Nic has been found by dr to be no worse than caffeine. You are not getting the hundreds of chemicals into your lungs anymore and they should be proud of you for taking the steps to get off the analogs. There rules are to be respected but they shouldnt be rules out of ignorance.
The very old study that was done by the FDA is so out of date and really doesnt fall true to using american made products. The FDA used juice made in China to get its findings. There are so many untruths going around, the tobacco industry and the drug industry stand to loose alot.
The very old study that was done by the FDA is so out of date and really doesnt fall true to using american made products. The FDA used juice made in China to get its findings. There are so many untruths going around, the tobacco industry and the drug industry stand to loose alot.
Way deeper issue than vaping. To them you will always be their child and helping you out by giving you a place to live just reinforces that. You Mother cares about your health as well as her own and her husband's. Your Dad loves his wife and wants her to feel safe and peaceful in her own home. That said, loving you as one does their child does not make you entitled to behave in their home in a way they wouldn't allow anyone else to. As for "convincing" them... why? Where's your respect for them and their boundaries?
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