Not enough throat hit with 510
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If wv2win will re-read the small portion of my post she did include she will note there is no mention of any particular battery. Also in my post she will note my displeasure with the Blu battery and also note that I use a manual 510 and a 510 pass thru. I stated "a reasonably operating" atomizer. It is true a higher voltage battery will last longer but no matter what the voltage is you will not get as good a throat hit from a 11 milligram mixture as you will from a 24 or higher milligram mixture. Also you will not get a good result if your wick material is not delivering the mixture to the atomizer well. you can dip or drip any decent working atomizer and get a good result (albeit for only a short time) if you have the proper mixture that is right for you.
I am using Blu carts only because I originally bought so many. They have a very small resevoir thus smaller wicks and juice capacity so must be filled more often, but when filled I will match the amount of vapor with any e-cig you pick. Certainly not for as long a period for the reasons I just stated. Now if you want longevity in use get a manual passthru. I also have an adapter for my 510 pass thru that allows me to use cartomizers. I will match the time....vapor....throat hit with that set up with any but the large resevoir PVs (cuch as the srewdriver and various mods).
You have made it sound like I was a devotee' of the Blu e-cig which if you read my post closely you will see I am not. However one thing that they do have in their favor is a good working, long lasting atomizer. The rest of the components I will agree. leave a lot to be desired. I will also agree that an automatic battery can cot compare with a manual. I however still maintain that the final quality of the vaping experience is more a product of a good wicking system and aproper mixture................jim
I am using Blu carts only because I originally bought so many. They have a very small resevoir thus smaller wicks and juice capacity so must be filled more often, but when filled I will match the amount of vapor with any e-cig you pick. Certainly not for as long a period for the reasons I just stated. Now if you want longevity in use get a manual passthru. I also have an adapter for my 510 pass thru that allows me to use cartomizers. I will match the time....vapor....throat hit with that set up with any but the large resevoir PVs (cuch as the srewdriver and various mods).
You have made it sound like I was a devotee' of the Blu e-cig which if you read my post closely you will see I am not. However one thing that they do have in their favor is a good working, long lasting atomizer. The rest of the components I will agree. leave a lot to be desired. I will also agree that an automatic battery can cot compare with a manual. I however still maintain that the final quality of the vaping experience is more a product of a good wicking system and aproper mixture................jim
Uhh wow there's a lot of info here. Before you try buying anything else, just drip one drop of everclear, high-proof-vodka, or pure grain alcohol per cartridge (so about one drop per 10-20 drops).
I think that's the right ratio, someone please correct me if it's not.
I think that's the right ratio, someone please correct me if it's not.
We are probably closer in our thinking than originally I thought. You are putting a priority on the atomizer's ability to do it's job well. I will agree with that and in my post, I was making it a "given" that the atomizer would be in top condition. A poor working atomizer will make any PV perform poorly. My main point, given a good atomizer, is that "warmer" vapor which contributes to TH and "consistency" can only be achieved with higher voltages.
You seemed to have missed a very important aspect of TH and warmth, ohms of the atty.
Hy guys (my first post here 
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Anyway, I experience the same simptoms as described in the first post. I did not had those issues with a 510 borrowed from a firend for testing, that worked and still works perfectly.
I only get a satisfying TH if I keep the batt button pressed for a few seconds while I draw air from it very very slowly and of course if I have a lot of liquid. I manage to survive with this but still I know it can work better.
I think that in the first post when there was a mention about no TH it really mean no TH, like breathing air and very rarely a small TH (that is very frustrating).
I did not tried any mods, I know this 510 can do a lot better, I do not think the batt power is the issue nor the atty since it gives me a good TH if I keep the button pressed for 4-5 secs and draw from it very very slowly.
Don't really know what to do, I will probably try to mess with the carts a little, maby that's the problem.
)Anyway, I experience the same simptoms as described in the first post. I did not had those issues with a 510 borrowed from a firend for testing, that worked and still works perfectly.
I only get a satisfying TH if I keep the batt button pressed for a few seconds while I draw air from it very very slowly and of course if I have a lot of liquid. I manage to survive with this but still I know it can work better.
I think that in the first post when there was a mention about no TH it really mean no TH, like breathing air and very rarely a small TH (that is very frustrating).
I did not tried any mods, I know this 510 can do a lot better, I do not think the batt power is the issue nor the atty since it gives me a good TH if I keep the button pressed for 4-5 secs and draw from it very very slowly.
Don't really know what to do, I will probably try to mess with the carts a little, maby that's the problem.
Different attys do produce warmer or cooler vapor and ohmns and resistence are part of that. It becomes less of an issue, IMO, with a larger battery. An 801 on a stock battery delivers little to no TH to me. On a 5 or 6 volt PV, it performs significantly better.
I used a passthru (chinese stuff broke, waiting for new one )that worked somehow similar like with the batt. Guess will have to try with a higher voltage too, afterall I only have 2 weeks of vaping and still do tests.
)that worked somehow similar like with the batt. Guess will have to try with a higher voltage too, afterall I only have 2 weeks of vaping and still do tests.
From you description it seems that the nic level and PV are fine for him when he drips, but not so satisfying when he uses carts. It sounds like his atty isn't getting enough juice when he's using carts.
To me this is the real downside to 510s, they are great, as long as you are not starving them. You have several choices to try and address this since dripping doesn't sound feasible while he is working.
Look at some of the cart mods and see if that helps. Each has their pros and cons and usually comes down to ease of filling vs performance. The ZFM (zero filler mod) works great, it uses all of the liquid in the cart and last much longer than mods that require filler. However, they are not easy to get right, it may work well on one atty and not so well on another. This is due to inconsistency from atty to atty (bridge height, alignment, etc). Also refilling them isn't as convenient as a filler type mod. Blue foam, polyfill, and other fillers work great but tend to loose their wicking ability after some use. They are easier to fill and top off, but will not last as long as the zfm.
Another choice would be to look into cartomizers. They are now available for the 510, or you can use a 901/808 adapter and use KR808 cartomizers. You can get them prefilled or emplty and fill them with your own juice. And since they are the atomizer and filler in one piece, you are able to switch flavors without any residue or residual flavor like regular 510 atties.
I use 510 cartos while on my commute or when dripping isn't doable, but I primarily drip when possible. The cartomizers do last much longer than carts, the 510 cartos can hold 20-30 drops of liquid.
To me this is the real downside to 510s, they are great, as long as you are not starving them. You have several choices to try and address this since dripping doesn't sound feasible while he is working.
Look at some of the cart mods and see if that helps. Each has their pros and cons and usually comes down to ease of filling vs performance. The ZFM (zero filler mod) works great, it uses all of the liquid in the cart and last much longer than mods that require filler. However, they are not easy to get right, it may work well on one atty and not so well on another. This is due to inconsistency from atty to atty (bridge height, alignment, etc). Also refilling them isn't as convenient as a filler type mod. Blue foam, polyfill, and other fillers work great but tend to loose their wicking ability after some use. They are easier to fill and top off, but will not last as long as the zfm.
Another choice would be to look into cartomizers. They are now available for the 510, or you can use a 901/808 adapter and use KR808 cartomizers. You can get them prefilled or emplty and fill them with your own juice. And since they are the atomizer and filler in one piece, you are able to switch flavors without any residue or residual flavor like regular 510 atties.
I use 510 cartos while on my commute or when dripping isn't doable, but I primarily drip when possible. The cartomizers do last much longer than carts, the 510 cartos can hold 20-30 drops of liquid.
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