not enough vapor?

[frnkj74]

Greetings to all, my name is Frank & I'm brand new to this vaping trend & I just received my new e-cig yesterday monday aug. 23rd from e smoker online.com. It's the e smoker 510 travel kit in blue & black, it kinda looks like marble design. And I've done a ton of research on e-cigs prior to buying one, reason being I didn't want to buy a lemon, know what I mean, anyway the 510 is the one that I decided on because of the vapor production & throat hit. But after charging the batteries & filling the cart, it dosen't produce that much vapor has shown in video reviews that I've seen on you tube. Am I not inhaling correctly? Or am I not using the correct e juice? Do I need to use e juice with VG or a mix of PG & VG to deliver a good throat hit & still produce a good amount of vapor? Can I add VG to the e juice that came with my starter kit, I'm not really sure, any help would be greatly appreciated here. Also is this particular model the same as the joye, tecc, & titan 510, or is it a knock off just because of it's design? Also if I'm able to add VG to my e juice will I still have the same strength of 16 mg, it's a 15 ml bottle. One more question, about how many drops of e juice do I need to put in the cart for it to be full? I appologize for having asked so many questions but I want to learn has much as I can. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me answer these questions, have a super day

 

[Automaton]

Hey frnkj74, welcome to ECF!

Well, I took a look at the site, and they are advertised as Joye 510's, so it *should* be the real deal.

I found it took me a day or two to really learn how to get the most out of my e-cig. Are you doing long, slow, somewhat light drags? Don't drag hard - you'll actually get less vapor that way.

If you have pre-filled carts, it may just be that juice. You will want to get your own juices to refill with.

PG gives you more throat hit, and VG gives you more vapor. For me, throat hit is more important. I go with a 90% PG, 10% VG mix. But I do get a less vapor than if I used more VG. So, it really is a trade-off.

If you buy plain VG to add to your juices, it will decrease the nicotine content. For example, if you had a juice that was 100% PG, and 18mg, and you want to make it 50% VG, you would dilute it by half. You would wind up with 9mg juice at 50/50 PG/VG.

You would also have less flavor.

The best way to do it is to practice your inhaling technique, and play around with what juice works best for you.

Some good vendors are:
FreedomSmokeUSA
Tasty Vapor
VaporBomb

...And there are lots more too. But all of those sites are very popular and customizable for strength and PG/VG content.

As far as refilling carts, just keep dripping into them until the filler looks "glassy." If there's a dome of liquid on top, it's too much. Blot it on a tissue to remove the excess.

 

[D4rk50ul]

Keep in mind atomizers are shipped with primer fluid inside, and take a couple days to break in. I'd give it a day or two and see what its like before you start getting excited about it. Also as said above, quality of juice has a lot to do with vapor production.

 

[Avid]

Greetings to all, my name is Frank & I'm brand new to this vaping trend & I just received my new e-cig yesterday monday aug. 23rd from e smoker online.com. It's the e smoker 510 travel kit in blue & black, it kinda looks like marble design. And I've done a ton of research on e-cigs prior to buying one, reason being I didn't want to buy a lemon, know what I mean, anyway the 510 is the one that I decided on because of the vapor production & throat hit. But after charging the batteries & filling the cart, it dosen't produce that much vapor has shown in video reviews that I've seen on you tube. Am I not inhaling correctly?

I don't know how you're inhaling, but you don't draw on a PV the same way you would an analog. When you vape, it's more of a long, slow draw into the mouth and then inhale... and the longer you hold it in, the less vapor you produce on exhale (or so it seems for me).

Or am I not using the correct e juice? Do I need to use e juice with VG or a mix of PG & VG to deliver a good throat hit & still produce a good amount of vapor?

You should be able to produce a good vapor with either PG or VG, though VG produces a bit more vapor and PG more TH. You don't *have* to use a mix of both, though some recommend it (best of both worlds sort of thing lol)

Can I add VG to the e juice that came with my starter kit, I'm not really sure, any help would be greatly appreciated here.

You can, but if you use straight VG with 0 nic, you would dilute the flavor somewhat (depending on how much you use) and lower the nic level.

Also if I'm able to add VG to my e juice will I still have the same strength of 16 mg, it's a 15 ml bottle.

Not unless you use 16 mg. VG.

One more question, about how many drops of e juice do I need to put in the cart for it to be full? I appologize for having asked so many questions but I want to learn has much as I can. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me answer these questions, have a super day

I don't have a 510 so I can't help you with that one, though I'm sure someone will be along soon who can

 

[CaptJay]

MistressN and the others have you covered answers-wise so I'll jsut say welcome

 

[keyzygirl]

It does take a day or 2 to get rolling.Keep trying.I find that a mix of 80pg 20vg 24mg juice gives both vapor,TH and enough nic to work.I just found a site called Vapor Renu and they let you choose how you want your juice made.They have double flavor and a choice of TH.Looks interesting.

Just dont give up!It takes time.

 

[BlueMoods]

the volume of vapor really doesn't matter if it gives the taste, th and nic you want/need. If it feels and acts right to you, then don't worry if you never see any vapor you exhale. I mean of course you will see some but, that doesn't matter when it's right in every other way to you.

 

[THE]

My 510 needed a little breaking in and works amazingly well

My father had a 510 from a local shop that just never was any good at making vapor, at all

Most people have great luck with 510s
You'll know which one you got soon...

Also, mix your own juice .... it's amazing .. you can have as much vapor as you want, then

I couldn't even see the movie I was watching last night for all of the vapor

 

[Pav]

Are you doing long, slow, somewhat light drags? Don't drag hard - you'll actually get less vapor that way.

I don't know how you're inhaling, but you don't draw on a PV the same way you would an analog. When you vape, it's more of a long, slow draw into the mouth and then inhale... and the longer you hold it in, the less vapor you produce on exhale (or so it seems for me).

These. This was the hardest thing for me to get used to or even understand when beginning vaping. Liks the song says, relax.

 

[maclean]

I'm betting that the juice supplied with the 510 is the culprit. I had the same experience and thought it was the 510, until I ordered juice from another supplier and tried it. Huge difference!

I think most e-cig suppliers tend to use juice which gives less vapor/more hit. Some people like that. Others don't.

mac

 

[flbutterfly1]

I have this same kit in the same colors and it is not a Joye. The site even says that Joye cartridges do not fit the atty. I love mine more than my Joye510 makes more vapor than my 510. I think it is the Dekang PG juice that came with it add some Glycein to it, invest in some Pg/Vg mixed juice and you will have all the vapor you can stand. I actually use the esmoker over my 510 the battery life is way better the flavor is better and overall I love it. just need some good juice

 

[johnny bobcat]

the volume of vapor really doesn't matter if it gives the taste, th and nic you want/need. If it feels and acts right to you, then don't worry if you never see any vapor you exhale. I mean of course you will see some but, that doesn't matter when it's right in every other way to you.

that's not true for everyone. for me, vaping satisfaction comes mostly from seeing a giant cloud of vapor come out of my mouth. This is obviously enhanced by perfect th and flavor, but you can't know how it will be in the op's case. Although i'm guessing vapor production does matter to OP because the post is all about not having enough vapor.

 

[IndieVisible]

that's not true for everyone. for me, vaping satisfaction comes mostly from seeing a giant cloud of vapor come out of my mouth. This is obviously enhanced by perfect th and flavor, but you can't know how it will be in the op's case. Although i'm guessing vapor production does matter to OP because the post is all about not having enough vapor.

Agreed, the vapor cloud and throat hit are big parts along with taste of course.

Not all cartomizors are equal, some are better! But I find on poor carts, if I inhale slower and longer I get more vapor out of them.

 

[DC2]

the volume of vapor really doesn't matter if it gives the taste, th and nic you want/need. If it feels and acts right to you, then don't worry if you never see any vapor you exhale. I mean of course you will see some but, that doesn't matter when it's right in every other way to you.

You're lucky you feel this way.
There are an awful lot of us that NEED lots of vapor.

I would still be smoking cigarettes if I wasn't seeing lots of vapor.

 

[Nothing Norml]

Honestly best vapor for me comes at higher volts or lr attys. Getting juice with vg base or adding vg to a propelene nicotine mix will result in more vapor. also at 3.7v take long slow deep drags, dont smoke it like an analog or you wont be very satisfied. its vaping not smoking, always keep in mind it is diferent but the positives outweigh any negativescheers!

Happy Vaping!

Nothing Norml

 

[maclean]

You're lucky you feel this way.
There are an awful lot of us that NEED lots of vapor.

I would still be smoking cigarettes if I wasn't seeing lots of vapor

Heh. The last analog I smoked surprised me because there seemed to be hardly any vapor - compared to my eGo anyway. After I'd smoked it, I had a good vape to compensate. LOL.

mac

 

[petem]

the volume of vapor really doesn't matter if it gives the taste, th and nic you want/need. If it feels and acts right to you, then don't worry if you never see any vapor you exhale. I mean of course you will see some but, that doesn't matter when it's right in every other way to you.

For some it is a big part of the picture for lots of volume to be produced. Everyone is different in what they want/need.

 

[JC Okie]

I'd much rather have clouds of vapor....over either TH or taste. Maybe that's silly....superficial...whatever. Ha. I've actually vaped pure VG (no taste; no nic) just to get my clouds. Ha.

 

[Lisa2112]

I have a 510 and I can usually get 10 drops on the cart. I had read that the filler should look slushy but not sopping wet so that's what I went with and so far it seems to have worked out well. I haven't ended up with the juice in my mouth as I have heard from some.

In regards to the inhale it's completely different than smoking an analogue. Hold it up to your mouth and hit the button to activate the battery but count to 2. Then place your lips around the end as though you are going to take a hit but do it slowly. Don't inhale at this point, pull the vapor into your mouth. Release the batteyr button and take the ecig away from your lips and then inhale. Then exhale. There you have it. There is a learning curve. For instance, I have just recharged the battery and refilled the cartridge and I forget this. I take a hit and inhale and it's like I just took 3 drags off of an analogue. It takes some time to figure out when to refill the cart etc. You'll get the hang of it!

I also want to add that the other thing that takes some getting used to is the delayed satisfaction. Unlike an analogue where you take a hit, inhale, and get the immediate affect with an ecig you will take a few hits and about 1.5 to 2 mins later you'll realize that your craving begins to subside.

I hope this helps but you can also get different experiences from different people. Your going to compile all of this info and try different things until you find what works for you.

Welcome aboard!

 

[DC2]

In regards to the inhale it's completely different than smoking an analogue. Hold it up to your mouth and hit the button to activate the battery but count to 2. Then place your lips around the end as though you are going to take a hit but do it slowly. Don't inhale at this point, pull the vapor into your mouth. Release the batteyr button and take the ecig away from your lips and then inhale.

Just to be clear, this is one way to do it, but not necessary.
I always direct inhale into my lungs.