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But that would defeat the OP's whole purpose, since the OP wants the nicotine to counter symptoms of anxiety and OCD.
I also read manuals and terms of service.
So do I!
Welcome to ECF. We are here to answer questions, give information and connect with others that share our passion for ecigs. Sometimes the info is hard to find, thousands of threads in here, so go ahead and ask. Some people forget what it was like when new to the whole forum thing.....
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There's a lot of reading in this place and if you're like me......you will be sitting in that chair for a Long time.
Wow, I am not such a careful reader. I am a never-smoked, mouth inhale only, non-nic vaper. Primarily I vape for weight loss (have lost another 3 pounds, total of 13 lbs lost now!), and if I had read that policy, I would not feel welcome at all 
That said, I did not read it (but kudos to you for being a careful reader!) and the actual *members* here have made me feel quite welcome! I accept the fact that vaping is in it's early days of evaluating safety. I have also done everything I can think of to vape with the least risk (no nic and no lung hits), but at the end of the day, I am still a grown up that can make decisions about legal activities however I wish, other people can think what they want about that, just as I can think what I want about the activities they choose to do.
I feel that trying to instruct other people about who should and should not vape is a slippery slope, the most obvious being the concept of defining the "true purpose" of vaping. One could easily throw opinions out at smokers as to "how" they should or should not be using the activity....is it an alternative to smoking or something to help people stop inhaling foreign stuff completely? What about people who vape *and* smoke long term....is that ok or not? Deeper into that concept is nicotine usage....is the goal to decrease nicotine to none, or keep vaping the amount you find satisfying?
Ask ten vapers, and you may get ten different answers as to what role vaping has played in their lives, and how they find vaping best serves them. Those of us adults who use vaping for weight issues, depression, and/or anxiety do not want limits slapped on us any more than a smoker does when we choose to start this activity. Vaping is certianly a harm reduction activity all the way around. Vaping better than smoking? As far as we know. How about better than powerful prescription antidepressant/anti anxiety meds? Could be, for the individual. Better than the consequences of being overweight? Quite possibly.
It would be nice if the other benefits of vaping could be acknowledged and even promoted, however, at this stage in the game it would muddy the waters for the public perception of this activity in all likelyhood. For now, it would just be nice for us non-smoker vapers could be quietly supported, and I truly feel that suuport from the majority of ECF members, even if the official policy may not extend in our direction just yet.
That said, I did not read it (but kudos to you for being a careful reader!) and the actual *members* here have made me feel quite welcome! I accept the fact that vaping is in it's early days of evaluating safety. I have also done everything I can think of to vape with the least risk (no nic and no lung hits), but at the end of the day, I am still a grown up that can make decisions about legal activities however I wish, other people can think what they want about that, just as I can think what I want about the activities they choose to do.
I feel that trying to instruct other people about who should and should not vape is a slippery slope, the most obvious being the concept of defining the "true purpose" of vaping. One could easily throw opinions out at smokers as to "how" they should or should not be using the activity....is it an alternative to smoking or something to help people stop inhaling foreign stuff completely? What about people who vape *and* smoke long term....is that ok or not? Deeper into that concept is nicotine usage....is the goal to decrease nicotine to none, or keep vaping the amount you find satisfying?
Ask ten vapers, and you may get ten different answers as to what role vaping has played in their lives, and how they find vaping best serves them. Those of us adults who use vaping for weight issues, depression, and/or anxiety do not want limits slapped on us any more than a smoker does when we choose to start this activity. Vaping is certianly a harm reduction activity all the way around. Vaping better than smoking? As far as we know. How about better than powerful prescription antidepressant/anti anxiety meds? Could be, for the individual. Better than the consequences of being overweight? Quite possibly.
It would be nice if the other benefits of vaping could be acknowledged and even promoted, however, at this stage in the game it would muddy the waters for the public perception of this activity in all likelyhood. For now, it would just be nice for us non-smoker vapers could be quietly supported, and I truly feel that suuport from the majority of ECF members, even if the official policy may not extend in our direction just yet.
No flavor juice would be my recommendation. More and more, it's becoming clear that nicotene is largely demonized because of it's association with smoking. I have watched closely the few studies that emerge from the few-and-far-betweened objective sources about how nicotene is actually a treatment option for several serious illnesses asd disorders - a lot of which I have in my family.
The major questions we have about the safety of e-juice revolves around the inhilation of flavorings, not nicotene, VG or PG.
If you want the safest vape with nicotene available, it would seem that non-flavored nic juice is your way forward. Sorry to party poop.
The major questions we have about the safety of e-juice revolves around the inhilation of flavorings, not nicotene, VG or PG.
If you want the safest vape with nicotene available, it would seem that non-flavored nic juice is your way forward. Sorry to party poop.
lexic, welcome to the forum. There are many reasons to vape and if you want to improve your vape and learn, you've come to the right place.
Sure you are welcome. Although I'm not new, I lurked for a few days to read up. Then I just jumped in the deep end of the pool. I don't really read the rules (which I do NOT suggest)....as most of the mods will tell you. But, you'll find lots of helpful info here and ask questions. You may get a few snippy responses as some people think their device is the only one on earth. You just have to skip over those and find what's useful for you. Good luck, and welcome.
Good luck, and welcome.
Oh, and I never smoked. I vape for an entirely different reason. I actually never even read that when I joined...which isn't shocking for me.
Wow, I am not such a careful reader. I am a never-smoked, mouth inhale only, non-nic vaper. Primarily I vape for weight loss (have lost another 3 pounds, total of 13 lbs lost now!), and if I had read that policy, I would not feel welcome at all
Congrats on the weight loss! I'm hoping vaping helps me in that area too. Side benefit.
That is one reason I didn't want to try nicotine lozenges or gum, I didn't want it to trigger me to eat.I feel much more comfortable here now. I'm glad I posted my concern. Some forums tend to be exclusive but it seems pretty inclusive here the more I look around and "meet" people.
Welcome lexic, and happy vaping! You will find some people here who are horrified that non/ex-smokers might choose to vape/use nic. I know its rude to say, but those people are hypocrites, plain and simple. It sounds like you have thought this out, and have good reason. I hope it all works out for you, and you enjoy your vaping.
Yup, and the difference with me is I could give a (bleep) what anyone thinks. A few know the reason, but not most and I don't like judge mental people. So, I just ignore those that have something negative to say.
Not that anyone bothers to listen to me, but to refer to e-cigs as "smoking cessation" or "nicotine replacement" is to open the door to legislators to regulate or ban (since there is "no long-term studies") this altogether.
IMHO, the focus should be retrained on proper manners and courtesy, rather than "it's my right". By this I mean, when the manager of the restaurant comes over and asks that you do not do that there, do not blow vape in their face and say "It's not smoke, Stupid!".
I have personally seen advocates appear at a legislators meeting, dressed in odd attire and vaping in the building, demanding that they not legislate vaping. The result? That particular area has some of the most restrictive legislation of anywhere.
I am just saying, a little courtesy goes a long way.
IMHO, the focus should be retrained on proper manners and courtesy, rather than "it's my right". By this I mean, when the manager of the restaurant comes over and asks that you do not do that there, do not blow vape in their face and say "It's not smoke, Stupid!".
I have personally seen advocates appear at a legislators meeting, dressed in odd attire and vaping in the building, demanding that they not legislate vaping. The result? That particular area has some of the most restrictive legislation of anywhere.
I am just saying, a little courtesy goes a long way.
I graduated from the school of "don't push your beliefs on everyone else". We live in a society where people believe the only acceptable way of life is how they choose to live. These people want to take away our rights to make decisions as adults and enforce their beliefs through the creation of ridiculous laws. It makes me nuts, because these people want no accountability or responsibility for their own inability to make sound choices, they like having "Daddy" in the form of big government.
Most folks that are that concerned with what other people are doing are highly insecure and need a way to feel better about themselves. They are fighting their own demons that perhaps aren't as obvious.
To the OP, if you think starting vaping will help you with your symptoms then blaze on. I personally choose to ignore the pious and self-righteous. Their opinion of me is none of my business......
Most folks that are that concerned with what other people are doing are highly insecure and need a way to feel better about themselves. They are fighting their own demons that perhaps aren't as obvious.
To the OP, if you think starting vaping will help you with your symptoms then blaze on. I personally choose to ignore the pious and self-righteous. Their opinion of me is none of my business......
You could order some 6 mg cartridges for the Blu. In my experience, the 16mg cartidges are strong. I was a former smoker too, started on Blu... and I found 16mg unpleasant (queasiness and so on), and the flavor was ho hum (tobacco flavors are difficult to get right with e-cigs, they tend to taste a bit more like chewing tobacco than a burning cigarette, which makes sense). As that was all that was available near me at the time, I turned to analogs out of frustration (I don't drive and there are far more convenience stores with rolling papers and cheap packs of 305's) , but I'm starting to get back into seriously vaping and smoking analogs less. Getting a good setup is important, and you've got to be willing to experiment and even blow a bit of money to find something that appeals to you.
I don't want to be alarmist, but I believe vaping could contribute to relapsing in an ex-smoker. I think for me though, it might have been inevitable because I wanted to try out e-cigs because of my feeling I'd go out and buy a pack of cigs otherwise. Cigarette cravings just don't go away because you stop smoking for a few years. So, I don't think ex-smokers interested in vaping is surprising.
Nicotine might help with the anxiety, but the effect is not exactly the same as tobacco. It's close, but it tends to be a little more stimulating on its own.
In my experience decaf green tea is very good for anxiety, as it contains L-Theanine. Staying away from caffeine is also important. {MODERATED}
(I don't drive and there are far more convenience stores with rolling papers and cheap packs of 305's) , but I'm starting to get back into seriously vaping and smoking analogs less. Getting a good setup is important, and you've got to be willing to experiment and even blow a bit of money to find something that appeals to you.I don't want to be alarmist, but I believe vaping could contribute to relapsing in an ex-smoker. I think for me though, it might have been inevitable because I wanted to try out e-cigs because of my feeling I'd go out and buy a pack of cigs otherwise. Cigarette cravings just don't go away because you stop smoking for a few years. So, I don't think ex-smokers interested in vaping is surprising.
Nicotine might help with the anxiety, but the effect is not exactly the same as tobacco. It's close, but it tends to be a little more stimulating on its own.
In my experience decaf green tea is very good for anxiety, as it contains L-Theanine. Staying away from caffeine is also important. {MODERATED}
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You could order some 6 mg cartridges for the Blu. In my experience, the 16mg cartidges are strong. I was a former smoker too, started on Blu... and I found 16mg unpleasant (queasiness and so on), and the flavor was ho hum (tobacco flavors are difficult to get right with e-cigs, they tend to taste a bit more like chewing tobacco than a burning cigarette, which makes sense). As that was all that was available near me at the time, I turned to analogs out of frustration
I am going to get something other than the Blu. It was just what was available. I plan on getting a lower mg liquid once I decide if I am going to continue. I am not interested in tobacco flavor either. I have no desire to recreate smoking. I just want to deliver nicotine. I might look into flavorless liquids, but who knows.. maybe I'll enjoy vaping and want all the fun flavors after all.
I don't have cigarette cravings. I'm not using it like a cigarette either. I mean, I'm not puffing on it for periods of time. I'm spacing it out trying to get a dose of nicotine. I don't have a residual hand-to-mouth need. I've been quit for 10 years so I'm looking at vaping as a totally different thing.
Noted. It's worth a try for me.
I'm a tea (and coffee) person. I don't want to give up my caffeine. I have no interest in {OTHER STUFF} or anything of the sort.
Thanks.
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I think you'll enjoy vaping... at first I thought I'd hate non-tobacco flavors but I'm growing fond of a lightly flavored Iced Tea juice I got at a local shop, I can see the appeal now.
Nicotine will alter the taste of any juice, as well. Even flavorless e-liquid has some flavor and quite a bit of throat hit or sensation in the vapor, so unflavored e-liquid isn't as bland as it sounds.
Nicotine will alter the taste of any juice, as well. Even flavorless e-liquid has some flavor and quite a bit of throat hit or sensation in the vapor, so unflavored e-liquid isn't as bland as it sounds.
Hi lexic, welcome to the ECF. I have a lot of interest in any topic that deals with the benefits of nicotine. Here's one example of why that is. I have a brother who is schizophrenic and has dealt with so many different levels of hell. The best "medication" so far has been nicotine.
This particular schizophrenia is genetic and results in there being missing receptor chemicals and such. I wont go into detail. But the nicotine actually simulates these missing links and actually helps him stay "sane". Point is, there are numerous studies showing the medical benefits of nicotine whether it be physical, or mental.
And it would appear that you have realized this as well and I applaud you for taking this type of step in enhancing the quality of your life.
This particular schizophrenia is genetic and results in there being missing receptor chemicals and such. I wont go into detail. But the nicotine actually simulates these missing links and actually helps him stay "sane". Point is, there are numerous studies showing the medical benefits of nicotine whether it be physical, or mental.
And it would appear that you have realized this as well and I applaud you for taking this type of step in enhancing the quality of your life.
I have read some studies that say nicotine might help keep Altzheimer's at bay. One of the things that really annoys me about all these folks who go on and on about how we don't know enough about vaping and thus we need to crack down on its use seem not to ever read any of the info out there that shows that nicotine may be helpful vs harmful. Here is an interesting article...
HowStuffWorks "How can nicotine be good for me?"
HowStuffWorks "How can nicotine be good for me?"
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I graduated from the school of "don't push your beliefs on everyone else". We live in a society where people believe the only acceptable way of life is how they choose to live. These people want to take away our rights to make decisions as adults and enforce their beliefs through the creation of ridiculous laws. It makes me nuts, because these people want no accountability or responsibility for their own inability to make sound choices, they like having "Daddy" in the form of big government.
Most folks that are that concerned with what other people are doing are highly insecure and need a way to feel better about themselves. They are fighting their own demons that perhaps aren't as obvious.
To the OP, if you think starting vaping will help you with your symptoms then blaze on. I personally choose to ignore the pious and self-righteous. Their opinion of me is none of my business......
I don't vape in public. Only at home and in my office.
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