Nothing I tried fixes gurgly Vision Vivi Novas base no matter what

[sandybeach]

Anyone else have that problem, where nothing fixes a gurgling Vision Vivi Nova base stem? Some of them are still gurgly no matter how many times I blow them. I've blown and blown until I am red in the face. No comments, guys, I know what you're thinking Even after they have dried for days, they still are gurgly.

My usual method of cleaning is to soak them a few minutes in water. I shake them off. I blow through them and everything sounds good.

With some of the bases, after I blow through them it still sounds gurgly two weeks later. I have tried a hairdryer and burnt the heck out of my fingers I tried baking them in the oven for twenty minutes. Still gurgly.

 

[JohnnyBGoode]

You know they are intended to suck, not blow, right ?

 

[whanso1]

Top coil?
Only had gurgling persistently if overfilled (above bottom of head). or if I left it upside down for a few hours it would gurgle, but was easy to clear out.

Bottom coil?
Head not tight or missing/faulty o-ring (could be any of the o-rings. Leak at top of tank means no vacuum to keep juice from over wicking. Leak at bottom just leads to juicy mess). Or juice too thin (or hot).

Also any time the head is 'done' or almost 'done' leaking may occur.

I always would throw a vivi nova away (or put away in drawer for emergency use) when I could no longer read the markings on tank... Just a superstition of mine.

 

[Rondo9]

Get the oniyo vapetank clearomizer with ceramic dual coil atomizer . You dont have to worry about these issues again

 

[Zealous]

When I used them and experienced this it happened for a few reasons.

1. liquid down the center hole during filling. This didn't happen that often but when it did this would happen. In this case I emptied the tank & blew through it upside down as you have been doing to remove the liquid.
2. When too much liquid was wicking to the coils. When this would happen the excess liquid would drip down into the center tube.
3. Grommets on the atty head worn or misaligned with the head. You can look at the bottom of the head & notice how the grommets look. If they look rough or aren't fit in there right there won't be a proper seal & eliquid will be able to seep down the center hole. If this is the case just throw the head away & try a new one.

If blowing from the bottom of the base does not clear out the liquid, you can also blow through the shaft piece that's attached to the base & blow whatever is in there out through the bottom. In most cases, blowing through the bottom will remove any liquid that's in the shaft. However if the liquid has gotten in the center pin hole (if you look down the tank shaft there is a pin sticking out. toward the bottom of that pin there is an air hole on the side) it will only come out through the bottom.

 

[sandybeach]

When it is filled with juice, it is gurgly.
Usually what works is to clean the top with a kleenex and then blow through it. Like you said, Zealous.
This time it doesn't work.
So I remove the head, rubber gasket, and tube.
I rinse everything out.
I leave everything taken apart.
I blow the base out to dry it.
It is still gurgly.
I dry the base for several days.
And the darn thing is still gurgly.

I really like these I have been using them a long time. Only a few of them are gurgly.

Whanso1, I don't throw the tubes out when the numbers wear out, maybe I should do that too They are single coil, not bottom double coil.

This is a real puzzle, I have no clue why they still gurgle when they are dried out

 

[klynnn]

I rebuild all my novas with 3mm silica and rarely ever have gurgling. I also dry burn my coils each time I clean the tanks. Make sure you don't fill it past the silicon cup with the wicks. I have been using the same ones almost 2 years you can't beat them once you learn how to rebuild. A PBusardo Tutorial - Vivi Nova Cleaning & Rebuilding - YouTube

 

[Stosh]

I've been using the Vision Vivi for about 2 years also, using this for rebuilding....Rebuilding a Vivi Nova | VAPE News Magazine

I've had some of my tanks gurgle when the center post isn't aligned in the exact center of the tank. Seems like it doesn't seal properly if its even a little off. Also some of my rebuilt heads will gurgle no matter what, until I pull the coil and build with a new wick...not sure what is causing that.

 

[Zealous]

So I remove the head, rubber gasket, and tube.

When you say this ^^^, what rubber gasket & tube are you referring to? The pieces that are generally removed, as far as the tank itself goes, would be the top cap (metal cap), tank piece, & atty head (this has a rubber cap piece on it). Are you removing something besides these things?

Honestly, if you've cleaned it out & it's still gurgly it sounds like there's liquid in the center pin piece. Does any liquid come out the bottom when you blow through the shaft?

 

[klynnn]

The last bunch of heads I bought had real flimsy wicks I think that's part of the problem. I have plenty of heads now so won't buy anymore.

 

[sandybeach]

When you say this ^^^, what rubber gasket & tube are you referring to? The pieces that are generally removed, as far as the tank itself goes, would be the top cap (metal cap), tank piece, & atty head (this has a rubber cap piece on it). Are you removing something besides these things?

Honestly, if you've cleaned it out & it's still gurgly it sounds like there's liquid in the center pin piece. Does any liquid come out the bottom when you blow through the shaft?

That's what I am thinking, there is still liquid in the center pin piece. The weird thing is they can sit and dry for weeks, and still sound gurgly. I tried baking a couple of them for twenty minutes, setting the oven on 350 to see what would happen. They still sounded gurgly when I took them out.

No liquid comes out when I blow through it. Even if I hold the air holes closed to get more suction. I meant the rubber cap piece on top of the head. All I meant was I take the whole thing apart when I clean it.

Maybe I should just toss them, I have about twenty more

 

[sandybeach]

I've been using the Vision Vivi for about 2 years also, using this for rebuilding....Rebuilding a Vivi Nova | VAPE News Magazine

I've had some of my tanks gurgle when the center post isn't aligned in the exact center of the tank. Seems like it doesn't seal properly if its even a little off. Also some of my rebuilt heads will gurgle no matter what, until I pull the coil and build with a new wick...not sure what is causing that.

I have had that happen too. It's really annoying when the center post isn't aligned. I've heard some people bang them with a hammer. I just don't use them. I found that sometimes when they are not aligned, changing the gasket or the top helps, but not always.

 

[sandybeach]

I used to dry burn, now I am too lazy. I am too lazy to rebuild, too. I just figure it would take me forever to learn how to make the resistance I like. I found somewhere that had the heads for .95. Now they only have the 1.8s. So I found another place yesterday that has the heads for .95. I bought 50, so I should be set for awhile

Speaking of heads, I tried the 4.0 and the 3.2. They didn't seem any different than the 2.8 to me. Have any of you guys tried them?

 

[sandybeach]

The last bunch of heads I bought had real flimsy wicks I think that's part of the problem. I have plenty of heads now so won't buy anymore.

Where did you buy them? So I know not to!

 

[sandybeach]

I've been using the Vision Vivi for about 2 years also, using this for rebuilding....Rebuilding a Vivi Nova | VAPE News Magazine

I've had some of my tanks gurgle when the center post isn't aligned in the exact center of the tank. Seems like it doesn't seal properly if its even a little off. Also some of my rebuilt heads will gurgle no matter what, until I pull the coil and build with a new wick...not sure what is causing that.

That tutorial makes it look really easy. What kind of wicking do you use? And which thickness/type of Kanthal wire?

Most of the tutorials I read made my eyes cross with all the details. I even joined a Facebook wicking forum. Way too many opinions and details. I like pbusardo's videos but they are too long.

 

[klynnn]

I think the last ones I got were a sale item but can't remember where. They had stiff little wicks and I had to rebuild because of gurgling and burnt taste. If you watch the tutorial on rebuilding it makes it super easy. I use 32 or 30 gauge kanthal and 3mm silica but you can use cotton if needed. I like to dry burn my heads so the silica works for me and they last about a month.. Get a small pair of needle nose pliers they come in handy. Wrap the wire around a needle with a piece of wet silica on it 4/5 times where the loops don't touch each other. It isn't the fanciest build but it works great once you get the hang of it. There are fancier builds but start simply and check your resistance before using.

 

[InTheShade]

When you unscrew the head from the center post, look down into it. You can push on that metal piece and pop it out completely. Be careful, it has some O rings on it to stop e-liquid getting down into the 510 connector.

From there you should be able to make sure there is no e-liquid or water anywhere. When you reassemble, just make sure you push it back into place leaving a small bit sticking out at the bottom so it makes contact with your battery.

EDIT - I just got one of my old Vivis and doing this is much harder than I remember. There is a grommit in there not an O ring and it's a royal pain to sit back onto the shaft... so do this at your own risk.

 

[skoony]

i am sure having had them apart so many times your assembling them correctly.
i have found with any top coiled type tank,(wicks bring juice up to the atty) if you only fill it about 3/4 of its capacity
the thicker juice in the exposed wick tends to restrain to much juice from getting into the atty.

also with the warmer weather your juice will thin out when outdoors in the sun.

make sure the cap that goes over the atty doesn't leave to much space above the wick.
you might need to take a strip of wick or strung out cotton(also known as a flavor wick) and place it above the top wick.
you only need a little. may be 1/10 the diameter of the wick or less.
regards
mike

 

[Stosh]

That tutorial makes it look really easy. What kind of wicking do you use? And which thickness/type of Kanthal wire?

Most of the tutorials I read made my eyes cross with all the details. I even joined a Facebook wicking forum. Way too many opinions and details. I like pbusardo's videos but they are too long.

I've been using ecowool, that way I can at least try dry burning if it's really gunked, more often than not I end up rebuilding. I use 30ga wire around a round wooden toothpick, 6-7 wraps gives me a 1.6Ω-1.8Ω coil fairly consistently. The toothpick stays in until I have the contacts secured by the gasket and pin, then I thread the ecowool through. I use a small piece of teflon plumbers tape (Home Depot about $1 for a lifetime supply) wrapped around the end of the ecowool to make it easy to thread into the coil, fluff up the ends and it's good to go.

The first couple trys may drive you to an adult beverage, but after the first few it becomes a snap....

 

[sandybeach]

I've been using ecowool, that way I can at least try dry burning if it's really gunked, more often than not I end up rebuilding. I use 30ga wire around a round wooden toothpick, 6-7 wraps gives me a 1.6Ω-1.8Ω coil fairly consistently. The toothpick stays in until I have the contacts secured by the gasket and pin, then I thread the ecowool through. I use a small piece of teflon plumbers tape (Home Depot about $1 for a lifetime supply) wrapped around the end of the ecowool to make it easy to thread into the coil, fluff up the ends and it's good to go.

The first couple trys may drive you to an adult beverage, but after the first few it becomes a snap....

I love your signature
"I'm puffin' on a pipe bomb and carrying a detonator in my pocket, so just what was it you wanted to hassle me about ??"

Maybe one of these years I will try rebuilding. I just bought 50 heads so I am set for awhile