Oh dear.. would like to spend about half this. Oh well.

[Geiseric]

So, I guess after spending about $350 between my fiance and I getting set up with batteries we liked and feeling out what we like for atties and cartos, I'm blowing another $550 loading up on what I like and getting set up for DIY since I'm already tired of dicking around paying way too much for flavors I don't like. Ordering Thursday to give myself some thinking time. Coupon codes applied when they could be. Lots of feedback from you guys went into it, thanks a ton. This is crazy. Oh well, won't have to make an order for a looooong time.

Shopmedvet - 32$ w/shipping
100x 10cc syringes
100x 3cc syringes with 18g beveled needles

wizardlabs - 140$ w/shipping
500 ml 100mg/ml nicotine
60x 30ml - bottles for flavor and nicotine storage (not storing all that nicotine in one place)
1 liter pg
1 liter vg
variety of flavors I couldn't get from capellas

capellas - 133$ w/shipping
6 5x flavor packs

MFS - 19$ w/shipping
plunger head for luerlock
.25 g menthol crystals

vaporkings - 80$ w/shipping
50x boge ~3.0 ohm cartos -for high voltage vaping, hope they are as good as 2.0s
10x 801 2.4 ohm atties -for flavor testing

litecigusa 22$ w/shipping
Variety of drip tips
510-801 adapter
2x ego thread covers

crystal clear vaping - 43$ w/shipping
30x resurrector 1.7 ohm - hope it's better than boge, getting 20x less for the price.

Gotvapes = 75$ w/shipping
15x ce2 ultimate 2.6 ohm - love them when they work
4x vision Grande 2.6 ohm - just got one, love it.


Getting some more boxes as well to store and sort all this fun new gear. Weeeeee. :l

 

[Huffelpuff]

Nothing wrong w/ that. The juice and equipment will last you a while and the price you paid is much less than 1 night at a hospital with a smoking related health issue. Your health is priceless!

Best of luck w/ your purchases and happy vaping!

 

[peter_panda]

For me the same...I started because I thought it will be cheaper than smoking...but there are so many nice things that I want to have ...

 

[Spazmelda]

Looks like once you get all that you will be set for a while.

It's not a huge chunk of your expenditure, but you could probably do with less syringes. 100 @ of those two sizes seems like more than you'd need. Try Animal Health Express or a local tractor supply company if you'd rather not buy quite so many.

60 30ml bottles is enough to store 1800 ml of nicotine, so you could maybe cut that number down a bit too if you want.

OTOH, this is all stuff you will use over a long period of time, so your expenditures should go down after this giant purchase.

 

[dearme]

Check out The Perfumer's Apprentice (DIY Professional Flavorings). They have very good flavors and are the cheapest place to order flavors and other supplies. You can read the reviews of the flavors, and Linda tells you exactly what's in all the flavors, and also which have something you might not want in them.
Perfumers Apprentice - Professional DIY Flavors

TPA is my favorite flavor supplier and the one I buy most of my flavors from, although last month I did buy some flavors from Flavor Art and they were OK, too, although more expensive than TPA. I've never used any Capella flavors. They haven't been doing vaping flavors as long as the other two, I don't think.

You might want to consider keeping some unflavored eliquid on hand made up with your PG/VG/nic level. You can vape it as it, it's very good just plain. It's also good to have on hand to doctor any flavors you make that might need tweaking.

I find that eliquids taste better with 10% max total flavor. Be sure to d/l the eJuice Me Up software for calculations.

 

[Vapronicity]

Don't worry, it only hurts for a minute or two. Happy mixing !

 

[Jimblob]

I spent a lot when I first started, well still do really, lol

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[elfstone]

That's where some of my tax refund will be going Thanks for posting your shopping list, someone in the future will spend years to decipher the secrets of your kabal (too obscure a reference?)

 

[Geiseric]

Obscure enough that I have no idea what you are talking about.

I looked into all of the flavor companies and reviews, and the obsessive fascination of capella's followers seemed to indicate it would be a good route to take. I'm only ordering the extra's from wizardlabs because some people have said that they like to mix other flavors with capellas, and to be honest I had already made such a huge wizardlabs order I figured I might as well add in a few other things from them. They sell what appears to be a variety of other companies flavors as well as their own, and are only 1.50 for an 8ml glass bottle, which is a nice touch.

The syringes.. I'm still torn on. I would be happy with having around 100 total, 50 each of 30cc and 10cc, and maybe 25 18g needles. Unfortunately, I haven't found any combination from any site that gets me that for less than 30. The place I'm getting it from has them for 20, with a ridiculous 10$ shipping, so, I figure I might as well go overboard. Can't hurt to have spares. Unless I get searched for some odd reason. Would look pretty bad for a license seeking Chem Dep intern to have 200 syringes in his apartment. Probably better than two really nasty ones, though. The bottles- I'm using some of them for nic storage, but mostly for making and storing mixes. I was going to go with a few 100 ml bottles for the nic storage, but these were so cheap I decided to just order a ton of them.

 

[dlsw]

I don't diy, but it looks like a good list. Welcome and good luck!!

 

[Geiseric]

Ohhh boy. I ordered, and its all coming in this week, WHEN I'm at work. Hopefully none of it gets jacked, I live in a nasty neighborhood and usps tends to just dump boxes in front of my door or leave them sticking out of the mailbox. I ordered even more. I ordered more flavors, more additives, 2 3.0 ohm pushcart sets from gotvapes, a dct tank, and two more ego batts, just.. because. I'm running out of juice. Come faster, packages!

 

[sailorman]

As a DIYer, I'm going to suggest something here. What you want for long term storage of nic (and with 500ml it WILL be long term if you don't go into business) is cobalt blue glass bottles with Euro stoppers. You can get 30/50/100ml sizes fairly cheaply. Fill them as much as you can and freeze them. The juice won't expand and you need to keep all the air out that you can. I don't trust plastic for long term freezing, especially at the optimum 0-10 degrees that nic should be frozen under. I've seen too much plastic get brittle and shatter when frozen, even at 20-30 degrees. Light and heat are the two enemies of nic. Cobalt blue bottles keep both out. Since it looks like you're jumping in with both feet, you may as well jump in with both feet.

Also, if you plan to measure all your nic and PG/VG with syringes, make darn sure you have large bore needles. I mean as large as you can find, like 14 or 12ga. or larger. Get them at a farm supply place if you have to. Tell them you want to inject a big microchip into your cow or something. Nothing is more slow, tedious and frustrating than trying to suck 10 or 20ml of VG up an 18 or 20ga syringe. I finally abandoned the idea of using syringes to measure anything more viscous than flavorings. Now, I use 5 and 10ml serilogical pipettes and a cheap $5 hand piece to create the vacuum. (I forgot what they're called, but they sell them anywhere they sell the pipettes). For measuring larger quantities and mixing, I just use good graduated beakers. A few small funnels come in handy to dispense the finished juice into 30ml bottles for storage. IMO, syringes are overrated for measuring or dispensing anything but flavorings, water, PGA and the very tiniest quantities of juice. Graduated cylinders or beakers are much more practical.

Good luck. I wish someone had turned me on to Wizard before I bought a gallon of nic elsewhere. Would've saved a lot of cash. You'll recoup your investment soon enough if you can vape what you make. I spend around $0.10/ml., and with Wizard's price for nic, you'll probably be spending less than that.

BTW, no company makes the best flavors. Capabellas is good for certain flavors and TPA is better for others. LorAnns is best for yet others. You just have to experiment and take notes.

 

[krnxguhj33]

Oh man, I thought I bought a lot when I first started. Vape on!!

 

[Geiseric]

As a DIYer, I'm going to suggest something here. What you want for long term storage of nic (and with 500ml it WILL be long term if you don't go into business) is cobalt blue glass bottles with Euro stoppers. You can get 30/50/100ml sizes fairly cheaply. Fill them as much as you can and freeze them. The juice won't expand and you need to keep all the air out that you can. I don't trust plastic for long term freezing, especially at the optimum 0-10 degrees that nic should be frozen under. I've seen too much plastic get brittle and shatter when frozen, even at 20-30 degrees. Light and heat are the two enemies of nic. Cobalt blue bottles keep both out. Since it looks like you're jumping in with both feet, you may as well jump in with both feet.

Also, if you plan to measure all your nic and PG/VG with syringes, make darn sure you have large bore needles. I mean as large as you can find, like 14 or 12ga. or larger. Get them at a farm supply place if you have to. Tell them you want to inject a big microchip into your cow or something. Nothing is more slow, tedious and frustrating than trying to suck 10 or 20ml of VG up an 18 or 20ga syringe. I finally abandoned the idea of using syringes to measure anything more viscous than flavorings. Now, I use 5 and 10ml serilogical pipettes and a cheap $5 hand piece to create the vacuum. (I forgot what they're called, but they sell them anywhere they sell the pipettes). For measuring larger quantities and mixing, I just use good graduated beakers. A few small funnels come in handy to dispense the finished juice into 30ml bottles for storage. IMO, syringes are overrated for measuring or dispensing anything but flavorings, water, PGA and the very tiniest quantities of juice. Graduated cylinders or beakers are much more practical.

Good luck. I wish someone had turned me on to Wizard before I bought a gallon of nic elsewhere. Would've saved a lot of cash. You'll recoup your investment soon enough if you can vape what you make. I spend around $0.10/ml., and with Wizard's price for nic, you'll probably be spending less than that.

BTW, no company makes the best flavors. Capabellas is good for certain flavors and TPA is better for others. LorAnns is best for yet others. You just have to experiment and take notes.

Thanks. I think my fiance may have some glass bottles laying around, I'll have to ask. She makes perfumes, candles and soaps so she has a lot of random containers. I was thinking about putting them in the bottles that are filled to the brim to minimize oxidation, sealing them in a bag for extra protection, and then wrapping it in dark paper to keep light out, before freezing all but one or two bottles. If I can't find glass in time, maybe I'll add some padding to make sure nothing hits the brittle plastic.

On syringes.. Oh, yes, I have already become frustrated with them. Unfortunately, as you said, it is difficult to come by low gauge needles. I will look around. I was thinking that with open bottles, I could remove a few needles from their LL tip and just use it without the needle for measurements, which would remove the inaccuracy of the added volume within the needle, as well.

Flavors.. I mostly went with capellas, but I do have 20 some TPA and Lorann flavors coming, hopefully good ones. You can get Lorann's anywhere, so if I find any that I feel I need, that will be quickly remedied. I hate waiting for packages. I wanted to get that part over with.

 

[sailorman]

No rush on finding bottles. It takes some time before nic oxidizes at all. Just keep it cold and dark while you're finding bottles for long term storage. I've kept 1/2 full bottles in the vegetable bin of the fridge for a couple months at a time, no problem.

Only thing about taking the LL off the syringes is that it becomes hard to keep from dipping the end of the syringe in the fluid, and that gets messy. The little nub isn't very long. You're in Mn. I know Duluth isn't exactly a farming town, but neither is Tampa. It shouldn't be hard to find a farm supply store somewhere. They all have them and they're dirt cheap. I think I paid a dime each for 12 ga. needles. Cost me more for gas to drive to the store.

Unless you're mixing 5ml at a time, the only ingredient that's so critical that the amount in the needle might possibly matter is the flavoring, and even then not so much. I thought about the amount in the needle too, but it's generally a non-issue. So you have 80.003%PG and 19.007%VG. and 23.984mg juice. Not an issue. 100mg nic is +/- a couple % anyway.

I bought about 30 different flavors when I started. I found some I didn't like much, but I figured out that even the lousy tasting ones can be mixed with something else and turn out pretty good. So, if you have a taste you don't care for, think about something it can be mixed with. It'll keep you from tossing flavors. I did that with some vanilla I didn't like. When I mixed it with mint, it turned out pretty good.

 

[AttyPops]

It seems that a vaper can spend what they want. lol. It gets addictive.

OTHO... DIY is a real money saver. I just purchased 6 months of nic supplies for < $50.00 shipped. (I have flavoring and device hardware already... not counting atomizers).

Looks like quite the stash of e-cig stuff. You're set for the zombie apocalypse!

 

[elfstone]

Sorry, but I guess it's as good a place to ask - anybody know where I could find good amber/blue glass bottles in sizes above 4 oz? I am going to get some of these: Amber Boston Round Glass Bottles - Specialty Bottle but they only have up to that size. And larger, I seem to only find sites that sell them by the crate.

 

[Off Topic]

I've got close to $500 in my provari, nic concentrate and diy stuff.

But, I'm set for at least a year, possibly two.

Compare that to a carton of Marlboro's a week for a year.

It's a no brainer.

 

[jamentertainment]

Not getting cancer in 10 years!!!
...

 

[RaRvn]

Good list. To add to it: It's very, very handy to have some graduated cylinders on hand for measuring small quantities. Disposable pipettes are extremely handy as well for picking up/tranferring liquids from one container to another. They are much easier than syringes. You're also going to want some kind of labeling system to keep track of everything and a record keeping system (index cards, notebook etc) to record your recipes so you can duplicate the good ones later (or avoid making the bad ones again). Use clear nail polish over the markings on your syringes; they wear off quickly if you don't. I don't remember seeing gloves on the list, but you'll need those as well when working with high concentrates of nicotine. On the DIY forum there are links to e-juice calculators that are invaluable aids to mixing e-juice and diluting nicotine properly - which is arguably the most critical step of the DIY process in terms of safety.

I just started DIY too, and it's actually pretty fun and interesting. I've spent a boatload of money as well, but at this point I don't need to buy anything for months if I don't want to. Have fun!