Ok, Disappointed to say the least

[designinme]

Well after reading so many glowing reviews of the IkenVape LR 306, I decided to purchase a few over a month ago for my REO. Turns out that the threads were not the right size and therefor wouldn't hit well on my unit. Even with sanding there just was so little vapor is was like sucking on a straw.

So I called Isaac and he didn't have anything to replace them with other than the 801 with the 510 connection. Wow.. those things totally suck ( at least on my unit ). Taste bad, leaks all over the place, and they get really hot. But he did try to help me out and that I am greatful for as he had no other 510's in stock at the time.

So last week my brother was making an order for some more atties and wanted to know what to get. I suggested getting some of the IkenVape 510's, as I have heard good reliability with those and figured we wouldn't run into the threading issue with the 306's I had. So long story short. These LR Ikenvape 510's are just worthless

No vapor. I mean.. maybe a hint, but practically nothing. I hear the atty firing, but that's about it. I popped one in a matter of 1 hour. Decided not to bother with another until tonight. Put it on.. same deal. Practically zero vapor and no heat.. super airy. About as satisfying as sucking on a straw. So I call my brother. He is having the exact same issue and went back to using a Joye 510. Me, I am using a carto.

I don't know what is going on, how soooo many people can be having success with atty's from here, or if there is a quality control problem. But I have been vaping for about two years and have never ran into such a horrible atty experience where nothing worked at all. I am totally confused and a bit irritated.

 

[loft]

Did you meter these rogue atomizers?

 

[loft]

And just so that it's clear to me - you were sent the 510 Cannon atomizers?

 

[dopeh]

I find the LR510 to have an annoying break in period where it alternates between mouthfuls of juice and dry hits - once I vape through that they're really nice. The draw is very airy at first, but tightens up after a day or 2 tops. I kinda wish it would stay airy but to each their own.

The LR306 is actually becoming my favorite, I didn't get any from the batch with threading issues so can't comment on that, but they too have a break in period - you'll find this is true with any atty that ships dry. Those Joye atties that work for you out of the box are full of primer fluid from the factory.

IKV ships them dry because we, for the most part, prefer it. Just prime it with 8 drops, let it sit at least 10 minutes, then 3 drops and vape. I also use REOs.

 

[Tat_skull]

Well after reading so many glowing reviews of the IkenVape LR 306, I decided to purchase a few over a month ago for my REO. Turns out that the threads were not the right size and therefor wouldn't hit well on my unit. Even with sanding there just was so little vapor is was like sucking on a straw.

So I called Isaac and he didn't have anything to replace them with other than the 801 with the 510 connection. Wow.. those things totally suck ( at least on my unit ). Taste bad, leaks all over the place, and they get really hot. But he did try to help me out and that I am greatful for as he had no other 510's in stock at the time.

So last week my brother was making an order for some more atties and wanted to know what to get. I suggested getting some of the IkenVape 510's, as I have heard good reliability with those and figured we wouldn't run into the threading issue with the 306's I had. So long story short. These LR Ikenvape 510's are just worthless

No vapor. I mean.. maybe a hint, but practically nothing. I hear the atty firing, but that's about it. I popped one in a matter of 1 hour. Decided not to bother with another until tonight. Put it on.. same deal. Practically zero vapor and no heat.. super airy. About as satisfying as sucking on a straw. So I call my brother. He is having the exact same issue and went back to using a Joye 510. Me, I am using a carto.

I don't know what is going on, how soooo many people can be having success with atty's from here, or if there is a quality control problem. But I have been vaping for about two years and have never ran into such a horrible atty experience where nothing worked at all. I am totally confused and a bit irritated.

My advice, CONTACT Isaac!!! I received 2 LR 510's yesterday, and I put one on an Apex Ultra Max and it performed just as every other IKV atty I've used (going on a year of using ONLY IKV atty's), PERFECT!!!! Now I am a die hard LR901 kinda guy, but the LR510 gave it a run for it's money!!!! Taste was great(better than I expected of a 510), the draw was super smooth, throat hit was there, and the vapor, well let's just say the vapor was intense(IKV stadard!!!)!

 

[CthulhuSaves]

IKV ships them dry because we, for the most part, prefer it.

The downside of doing that is when you get someone like me who's relatively new to vaping (3 months now). I repeatedly heard experienced vapers, in posts and YouTube tutorials, explain how you have to burn-off the primer on a new atty, etc, etc. So, naturally, that's exactly what I do. And until the other day, that worked just as advertised. And then I got a box of attys from "somewhere else" that had no primer (not IKV --I'm about to place my first order with them), but I didn't know that. I hit the button and the atty immediately popped and went dead.

So if the info isn't posted, as a customer I'd suggest putting warnings on the atty pages, informing buyers that your stuff ships dry and shouldn't be primed the usual way, but "wetted" with juice first. Might save on blown attys.

Apologies to the OP for wandering slightly off topic.

 

[Blueberry]

As mentionned by Saves, you do have to take into account that there is no primer. For a 306 atty, I prime it with 6 or 8 drops, wait a while, then put 2 or 3 more drops. For the 801s, I sometimes prime them with 10 drops, if I fired them straight from the box they would be dead. Once primed (usually 6 drops), the 510 atty is very user-friendly and performs outstandingly (I mainly with the HV version).
As far as the 306 is concerned, sometimes our mods do not adapt to some atties or cartos, not necessarely because they are from IKV, it can happen with Joye, Boge or Mit...

 

[Switched]

The downside of doing that is when you get someone like me who's relatively new to vaping (3 months now). I repeatedly heard experienced vapers, in posts and YouTube tutorials, explain how you have to burn-off the primer on a new atty, etc, etc. So, naturally, that's exactly what I do. And until the other day, that worked just as advertised. And then I got a box of attys from "somewhere else" that had no primer (not IKV --I'm about to place my first order with them), but I didn't know that. I hit the button and the atty immediately popped and went dead.

So if the info isn't posted, as a customer I'd suggest putting warnings on the atty pages, informing buyers that your stuff ships dry and shouldn't be primed the usual way, but "wetted" with juice first. Might save on blown attys.

Apologies to the OP for wandering slightly off topic.

The biggest myth that needs dispelling out there is "dry burns" on atomisers, it has spread like wild fire and it is the biggest heap of rubbish I have ever heard. It found roots from "my atty resurrection method" the key work being resurrection or a last ditch effort to extend the life of a nearly dead atomiser. Dry burning and atty is a sure way to promote an early demise on any atty.

Back on track...

Forcing the Break in period will also = pop! I am sure folks do not red line their brand new car during the initial break in period. Why would you red line an atty?

 

[MAlzado]

What exactly is the break in procedure for each the atties? The car analogy doesn't work for me. Cars require break in due to friction between moving parts. A more appropriate analogy would be a toaster. But they don't require break in, so I'm confused about the whole precept.

Also, I've read the resurrection thread. And I've used that technique with success (only) two times. (On IKV 510 HV) Both times it was on adttes that were 1 week old and only clogged from dark sweet juice used on a bottom feeder. I also put them in a little vodka in my ultrasonic cleaner.

It seemed to help but I'm no expert. Did I do something wrong?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I've found the break-in period for my atties is usually 6-8 hours of use. Keep them wet and just be patient. This goes for LR and HV atties. I don't bother with cleaning them that much anymore. I just blow them out at least once a day and rinse them in hot water if (and only if) they start acting like they're clogged. I vape a lot of dark, sweet juices and the clogging doesn't happen very often. I never dry burn because that just seems to make them pop sooner.

 

[player30]

A much better response Woman of Heart. Leave it to a woman to get to the true nuts & bolts!!

 

[Iken]

Hi Design,
Yes, yes and YES from what Switcher said. Dry burning is the WORST thing you can ever do to an atomizer. Any of us can't stress that enough. It really grinds my gears to an extreme when I see folks on camera teaching people how to do it with all the ignorance and arrogance in the world. The heating core MUST be wet prior to activation and in under no circumstance should a dry burn be initiated.
Here's a few examples, different forms of technology under the same principle.

You have a new car.
Would you ever hold down the gas pedal till the dial goes into the red and hold it therefor a minute, then expect the vehicle to run better?

You have had installed a dimmer switch to a light in the living room. The governor that controls how much current goes to it has been removed for maximum brightness. Would you turn the dial all the way to highest it can go burning the coil as much as possible in order for your light to perform better under normal conditions?

I don't know how the others guy use primer in their atoms that are just absurd not to vape or just old fashion Propylene Glycol which is virtually tasteless. Regardless I would always and forever be against burning atomizers or cartomizers alike without any e-liquid inputted first. The old database really made the important information stand out as the new buries it. Customer Login Read#0 Since all this that had happened was under misguided information, I am more than willing to resend a new order. I do need your email address for the necessary information. All of us here will get you up and running like a champ in no time flat.
Sincerely
Isaac

 

[Iken]

What exactly is the break in procedure for each the atties? The car analogy doesn't work for me. Cars require break in due to friction between moving parts. A more appropriate analogy would be a toaster. But they don't require break in, so I'm confused about the whole precept.

Also, I've read the resurrection thread. And I've used that technique with success (only) two times. (On IKV 510 HV) Both times it was on adttes that were 1 week old and only clogged from dark sweet juice used on a bottom feeder. I also put them in a little vodka in my ultrasonic cleaner.

It seemed to help but I'm no expert. Did I do something wrong?

Women of Heart nailed her regiment to a solid T. It all depends on what type of liquid you are running through the equipment. Break-in is typically when the liquid is properly flowing through the equipment. From entering it to being vaporized. Once the liquid starts running in the complete cycle through out all the components, lubricating and wear and tear on the heating core which will make your unit perform at the most optimum level. With dark liquids Definitely heed WOHearts words as they are truly beneficial.

 

[5cardstud]

I hear people come on ECF in different vendor forums with simalar gripes about their products and it makes me wonder if they truly think vaping is a one size fits all thing. It's just like when you smoked, not everyone smoked the same brand cigarette. Some people hated cigarettes but used a pipe or a cigar. Vaping is the same way. Instead of complaining because a product don't fit your vaping style why not look for what does. Everybody isn't going to like the same thing but when I smoked a Parliament and thought it was terrible and airy I didn't go into their forum and tell them they were trash. Just because I love Fusions doesn't mean I think everyone will.

 

[dopeh]

...when I smoked a Parliament and thought it was terrible and airy I didn't go into their forum and tell them they were trash.

lolololol

 

[WomanOfHeart]

A much better response Woman of Heart. Leave it to a woman to get to the true nuts & bolts!!

And once upon a time they used to say that women and technology didn't mix! HA!

Thanks guys for your kind compliments!

 

[Switched]

And once upon a time they used to say that women and technology didn't mix! HA!

Thanks guys for your kind compliments!

We trained you well

 

[MAlzado]

You folks have really helped me by taking these rumors out of my life. Thanks to woman of heart, Iken, and switched.

 

[Katdarling]

Another silly semi-newbie here who thought it was cool to see the coils glowing like embers in a firepit. I'll save that desire for the toaster now. Thank you, Isaac, for your words of true wisdom... and for everything else!!!

 

[5cardstud]

Another silly semi-newbie here who thought it was cool to see the coils glowing like embers in a firepit. I'll save that desire for the toaster now. Thank you, Isaac, for your words of true wisdom... and for everything else!!!

Well get some 1.5 ohm DCs and run them babies up to 6 volts and your be able to toast your bread. LOL. That's only 24 watts. Isaac is a true master at what he does.