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AlmightyGod

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The LR306 atty is an exposed bridge atty and needs a 306 drip tip, which fits over the entire atty.
Prime the atty with juice and fire.
They give more heat, flavor, and TH.

You might consider a bottom feed box mod.
Here is a thread with a list of them.

A bottom feed mod has a bottle of juice, rechargeable battery, and the atty and drip tip.
Squeeze the bottle to feed the atty and vape.
You should read up on them...they rock!
 

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The LR306 atty is an exposed bridge atty and needs a 306 drip tip, which fits over the entire atty.
Prime the atty with juice and fire.
They give more heat, flavor, and TH.

You might consider a bottom feed box mod.
Here is a thread with a list of them.

A bottom feed mod has a bottle of juice, rechargeable battery, and the atty and drip tip.
Squeeze the bottle to feed the atty and vape.
You should read up on them...they rock!

Interesting, thank you. I have to say that all the stuff and ways to vape are overwhelming. Like I went to look at a LR306 atty and at one site they say it may or may not fit over your drip tip. I am the kind of person that ends up with that one. And I buy stuff that doesn't fit or isn't compatible, from cars to e-cigs. I would like to avoid that. The box mods look fairly intense. But I wonder if it will really make the difference. I am using a 3.7 volt battery with an LR 1.5 ohm atty on the Screwdriver, right (if they don't ship with LR atty's I ordered one), and if the juice doesn't feel right on that, will it really be different on some frankenstein box mod that requires an engineering degree, a toolbox and a bunch of scary crap to operate?
 

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It's not a Frankenstein box!
They have a battery, a bottle of juice, and the atomizer with drip tip.
Some of the boxes are works of art, or you can buy a cheap plastic model.

The screwdriver with a 1.5ohm atty will do it though.
The boxes are a no full way of dripping, as you can feed the atty by pushing on the bottle.
 

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I got my juice from alien vision today.

Boba's Bounty
Gorilla Juice
Flue Cured

Here is the deal: I tried Boba's and Gjuice. While I find the flavors really compelling, it simply needs more punch. It's like a cruel tease. I can taste hints of what I want the experience to be. Just lacks the hit, the lung punch that I know I can get. It is a drag because they are the kind of tastes I know would keep me off the camel nons.

The all vg mix is too thick to use my tank, but at 3.7 volts it still just won't cut it. Such a bummer. Gonna hope fsusa is more to my liking.

You won't get much "punch" with a 3.7 volt device, plain and simple. If you really want that "punch", then you need different equipment.
 

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It seems to be about the juice. And all the manufacturer's make it overwhelming. I am not so concerned about getting as close to an analog, just the punch. Lung hit, throat hit, whatever.

The juice is only one half of the throat hit equation. 36mg nicotine strength will definitely help increase throat hit. But your 3.7 volt PV is your proablem.
 

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....will it be different on some frankenstein box mod that requires an engineering degree, a toolbox and a bunch of scary crap to operate?

With my variable volt Darwin, I screw on the atty, add juice, push button and vape. With a 5 volt GLV2, you screw on the atty, add juice, push button and vape. How easy does it have to be for you to be unafraid?????
 

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Are you talking about device or juice? That's really difficult to say with juice. If it's not high enough you might still crave cigs (analogs), too high and it might be too harsh or too strong of a throat hit. I was smoking quite a bit before I started vaping and vape 24 mg. Still do.

As far as device, I've only had one so that's all I can tell you about. I have a joye ego and love it. I have tried a couple others (KR808) which is good too. I'm pretty happy. Don't smoke cigs anymore at all. But some of the more experienced vapers here can give you lots of great info on the different pvs.
 

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Whats the minimum a two packs a day smokers going to need to stay around level. ?

Hey, since you came to my thread, I am going to say it depends. I followed a chart with nic levels of various brands, then read that for a camel non smoker (pack a day) you are gonna want to start high. I got 36mg juice and felt like it was too much, gave me a headache. I also found all sorts of things. I didn't vape the same way I smoke a cigarette, for example.

My advice is to try both 24mg and 36mg and see how it works for you.
 

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Sounds like you need more wattage not high nic and either a http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/167225-best-3-tank-mod-youll-see-today-4.html or a good quality carto
Put that on your screwdriver.


Eliminates most of the mess.

GOOD LUCK and good going so far. Your reading and studying so that's over half the process.

Also how much are you vaping? As long as you are still smoking you might want to go down even one more notch sort of an unhappy medium at least till the headaches go away.
your body takes in the nicotine differently w vaping vs smoking.
 

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Sounds like you need more wattage not high nic and either a http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/167225-best-3-tank-mod-youll-see-today-4.html or a good quality carto
Put that on your screwdriver.


Eliminates most of the mess.

GOOD LUCK and good going so far. Your reading and studying so that's over half the process.

Also how much are you vaping? As long as you are still smoking you might want to go down even one more notch sort of an unhappy medium at least till the headaches go away.
your body takes in the nicotine differently w vaping vs smoking.

Well I am still smoking analogs. Down by half or more, like seven or eight a day. Before I go too crazy with lr attys and new pvs (which I will get into soon enough) I just want to find a juice(s) I can get into. Then on to higher voltage pvs.

To be honest, after I complained about th I have been enjoying the flue cured and boba's bounty despite the fact that it needs a bigger punch. I really do dig the sublime and yet complex flavor. I am getting hip to the idea that vaping can be better than smoking for a lot of reasons I am discovering as I go. Down at 24mg too and the headaches aren't happening.

Juice samples coming from psusa and bwb so I hope I find a better punch and flavor. Will keep at it and update the thread as I go
 
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To get the punch, you need higher wattage. The LR atomizers work on your current set-up. Please...just get one or two...the difference is huge & you'll see what I'm talking about. The same juice you just think is ok now, will pack a much bigger punch! Get some 1.5ohm atomizers...you won't regret it!
 

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To get the punch, you need higher wattage. The LR atomizers work on your current set-up. Please...just get one or two...the difference is huge & you'll see what I'm talking about. The same juice you just think is ok now, will pack a much bigger punch! Get some 1.5ohm atomizers...you won't regret it!

Well since you put it that way...:)
I have two on order with my juice samples from fsusa so I assume I will get to see how it works. Very cool if you are right.

But I have a tornado tank too but don't quite get what the lr atty options are. They kinda make the tank a no-go right? I need the lr306 with drip tips right?

Plus, until two days ago I never tried a vg juice. They are thick, and I gather you can't tank or drip tip a vg juice? What is the remedy? I also notice vg stuff seems to last longer. But I also noticed a taste to it, might overwhelm the rest of the flavors? I have tried only 3 juices though. Bobas blend and flue cured taste so similar (but discernible differences), I just wonder if it is the vg I am tasting.

Thx for your insistence about the lr attys. :toast:
 

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VG is thicker and doesn't work in the tanks as well. It can be thinned with a little PGA or water (not too much). The Tornado Tanks are notorious for killing flavor. I'm not surprised you are unhappy with the experience. There are LR510 & LR306 atomizers. The LR510 uses a 510 drip tip which fits into the top of the atomizer. The LR306 is an exposed atomizer and the drip tip fits completely over the top of the atomizer. Boba's Blend is a kick ... juice when you turn up the heat on it. VG juice can be dripped. I drip Boba's all the time.

Ohm's Law...(voltage x voltage) / resistance in ohms = Wattage
Typical ego set-up is: (3.4v x 3.4v) / 2.2ohms = 5.25watts
With LR atomizer: (3.4v x 3.4v) / 1.5ohms = 7.7 watts

You see how the wattage goes up a lot with the LR atomizer?

You can buy inexpensive mods that are a true 3.7volts.
Now if you had a true 3.7volt e-cig: (3.7v x 3.7v) / 1.5ohms = 9.13 watts

It really sounds to me like you need a hotter vape.
I feel like I'm sucking on air below 8watts.
Now at 8-10watts...that's nice!!!
 

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...The Tornado Tanks are notorious for killing flavor. I'm not surprised you are unhappy with the experience. ....
Now at 8-10watts...that's nice!!!

See, you need basic physics or chemistry to vape... Ohms law.

Now I am sort of perplexed... I like the tornado tank. But I got it with two extra attys, the mega ones with the 2.5ml carts. I thought they would be just a larger tank (for those long trips) but they are bridged and the carts are carts not tanks, with the wool. So since I was talking about vg and dripping, I figured I would try the mega atty and the 2.5ml cart. Filled it with the flue cured from alien visions. Brand new atty. Blew it out, filled the cart, dropped some on my atty and vaped...

It was like a totally different juice, I thought something was wrong. Tastes nothing like the same juice on my screwdriver. It hits hard, the flavor is totally different (not really in a good way, if anything it was stronger, hard stale hit with strong honey throughout -- really unpleasant). I have to wonder if that is how it is supposed to taste or what. On the screwdriver it is way more sublime, delicious really, but no punch. And more vapor on the tornado too.

I wonder what to do. I don't want to try the bobas or the gorilla juice in that mega atty and cart for fear of further disappointment, but I want to know if it is the juice that disagrees with me or the rig configuration. Just doesn't make sense.

EDIT: I checked the site where I purchased the mega atty. They make a low resistance one at 1.5 ohms but I didn't get it. I didn't because it says they burn out faster, and I didn't pay attention when they taught ohm's law in school. But like I said the thing hits hard as it is. I really am confused.

EDIT2: Couldn't resist, vaped boba's bounty in the 1.1mil tank, and at least I could say the flavor was recognizable. Harder hit than the screwdriver, more vapor. Not to say I am not still confused. How is a drip tip and the lr atty different, save for the low resistance factor. And why is the screwdriver giving less hit, and why did that flue cured taste like a different animal all together in that mega cart? Why why why?
 
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I think there were about 4-5 different ones suggested through-out the thread that were 5 volt or variable volt and considered some of the best on the market.

Yes, I know there were. The GLV2 and the Darwin, for example. But both are out of stock at the moment and the Darwin is twice the cost of the GLV2, so before I rush in I want to make sure of a few things.

One basic thing is the various options I can use on what I already own, and I have to admit I am intimidated and whatnot, and still struggling with everything

As I said, I like the Tornado / eGo Tank that I have, but I do notice that juice does basically lose its taste in the tank, or it has a preponderance of plastic or something that is discouraging. Now, can I use a LR 306 atty and drip tip with my Tornado battery? Is that any better? I like the vapor this thing creates, if it weren't for the weird taste I seem to get, it would be ideal.

I also have a screwdriver, which I gather I could do the same thing (LR 306 w/ drip tip). Would this be an improvement?

I got a LR 306 atty (bridged) and put it on my screwdriver today, but the cartridges didn't fit tightly in it so it was falling out, and the atty itself seems temperamental.

Before I start talking about the juices I have sampled since my last post, I really want to make sure I give em a fair shake.
 
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